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post #31 of 47
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will this HDD be a direct internal replacement?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ab=true&Page=3
post #32 of 47
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

will this HDD be a direct internal replacement?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ab=true&Page=3

Yes. That's the hdd that was inside my 515, although someone else had a Hitachi hdd in theirs.

gm2040
post #33 of 47
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so w/ you'r wire I can use either 3.5 or 2.5 AV25 WD5000BUDT externalized.
or just this 3.5 internal. curious about the 3.5 power requirements w/ you'r wire?

external would be much easier to swap HDD
? when you swap HDD do you just power down the 515 and wait for the HDD disc. to stop spinning?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=2hdxgw09o9hm
post #34 of 47
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

so w/ you'r wire I can use either 3.5 or 2.5 AV25 WD5000BUDT externalized.
or just this 3.5 internal. curious about the 3.5 power requirements w/ you'r wire?

external would be much easier to swap HDD
? when you swap HDD do you just power down the 515 and wait for the HDD disc. to stop spinning?

It is slightly possible to buy cables that extend out of the 515 to use the Hard Drive externally. It is not recomended that a drive just sit out in the open. Using the option of "changing" the internal sata (data) connector to an external sata connector just provides the data not the power. Most people have invested in a "docking" station that allows you to use any type of drive be it 2.5 or 3.5 in size. This station has it's own power supply.

Yes, when you are attempting to swap out drives, both units should be turned off and even unplugged from any power source. There may be docking stations that allow hot swapping, but that is a computer regulated concept and has nothing to do with a Magnivox 515 DVDR. You will need to power the external station on first and then the 515. But swapping out drives with power from the wall outlet in use is a sure way to "fry" internal power related components in your 515 and render it useless and also will not be covered under warranty, well Walmart may take it back.
post #35 of 47
QUOTE=stevethebrain;20927407: so w/ you'r wire I can use either 3.5 or 2.5 AV25 WD5000BUDT externalized.
or just this 3.5 internal. curious about the 3.5 power requirements w/ you'r wire?

The koutech sata-esatap cable connects to an esatap enclosure with an hdd inside. It doesn't connect directly to the hdd. Currently, there are no 3.5" esatap enclosures available. The only options are 2.5" hdd enclosures or a Shentek docking station that accepts 2.5" & 3.5" hdds. The cable itself supports 5Volts for 2.5" hdds and 12V for 3.5" hdds or optical drives.

external would be much easier to swap HDD
? when you swap HDD do you just power down the 515 and wait for the HDD disc. to stop spinning?

Yes. There is a light on the hdd enclosure that will turn off.


gm2040
post #36 of 47
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Hello GM2040
AV-25 WD5000BUDT HDD $59.00
http://www.allhdd.com/wd5000budt-wes...new-pull-.html

it maybe worth the extra $12.10 for the manufactorys warrenty instead of the above ALHDD 30 day warrenty

http://www.provantage.com/western-di...t~7WNDO07J.htm

I'm confussed on this enclosure's cable being eSATA w/ USB wondering how the USB is connected to the 515?

I observe the SATA & USB logo on the enclosure for a single connection so I'm assumming that this in fact is a dual cable, data travels on SATA 7pin protion and power travels on USB 22 pin protion. and the $17.00 adaptor allows for both data and power.

http://www.startech.com/HDD/Enclosur...OTB~S2510PESAT


GM2040 do you rotate your HDD in a single enclosure, eliminating unplugging the SATA cable to enclosure?

how do you store unused HDDs I'm assumming in a antistatic bag and cardbroad box?
Thanks STB
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

Hello GM2040
AV-25 WD5000BUDT HDD $59.00
http://www.allhdd.com/wd5000budt-wes...new-pull-.html

it maybe worth the extra $12.10 for the manufactorys warrenty instead of the above ALHDD 30 day warrenty

http://www.provantage.com/western-di...t~7WNDO07J.htm

I, personally, would buy the one with a manufacturer's warranty or find another brand of hard drive to use.

I'm confussed on this enclosure's cable being eSATA w/ USB wondering how the USB is connected to the 515?

I observe the SATA & USB logo on the enclosure for a single connection so I'm assumming that this in fact is a dual cable, data travels on SATA 7pin protion and power travels on USB 22 pin protion. and the $17.00 adaptor allows for both data and power.

http://www.startech.com/HDD/Enclosur...OTB~S2510PESAT

ESATA/USB Combo is another name for Power over Esata (esatap). It's a single cable like the koutech one, not 2 separate cables like esata and usb. The koutech cable is connected to the 515 and on the other end to the eSATAp (or eSATA/USB combo) port on the hdd enclosure. The USB port on the enclosure is not used.

GM2040 do you rotate your HDD in a single enclosure, eliminating unplugging the SATA cable to enclosure?

how do you store unused HDDs I'm assumming in a antistatic bag and cardbroad box?

Each hard drive has its own enclosure. I never take them out. The enclosures ARE my storage.

gm2040
post #38 of 47
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Hello GM2040 looks like the the Startech ESATAP enclosure is the only choice.

what enclosure are you using?

I see another ESATAP benefit compared to a dock station turning off w/ a remote control, DS will require physicaly pressing a button on the back of DS.

Thanks
STB
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

Hello GM2040 looks like the the Startech ESATAP enclosure is the only choice.

what enclosure are you using?

I see another ESATAP benefit compared to a dock station turning off w/ a remote control, DS will require physicaly pressing a button on the back of DS.

Thanks
STB

I'm using the generic Delock enclosure (HE-2521B) from geeks.com or Amazon. I also have one of the startech enclosures.

gm2040
post #40 of 47
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so you initaily purchased the startech enclosure to obtain the enclosure and the ESATAP cable?

then you purchase a lower cost Geek ESATA enclosure and continue to use the startech cable?

looks like the geeks cable is for interfacing ESATAP w/ a laptop w/ it's separated SATA & USB cable.

I'm not confussed w/ startech setup however I'm confussed w/ Geeks enclosure & the ESATA wire I don't see how you get power from the 515 since it has no USB connection?

Sorry to be such a PITA I want to be though and make a educated decision on my on my 515..

STB
post #41 of 47
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

so you initaily purchased the startech enclosure to obtain the enclosure and the ESATAP cable?

then you purchase a lower cost Geek ESATA enclosure and continue to use the startech cable?

looks like the geeks cable is for interfacing ESATAP w/ a laptop w/ it's separated SATA & USB cable.

I'm not confussed w/ startech setup however I'm confussed w/ Geeks enclosure & the ESATA wire I don't see how you get power from the 515 since it has no USB connection?

Sorry to be such a PITA I want to be though and make a educated decision on my on my 515..

STB

The startech and generic delock enclosures have the same types of ports on them. The cables that come with either enclosure will NOT be used, only the koutech (eSATAp or Power over Esata) cable and an adapter. This is the order of connections starting inside the 515. The internal 515 22-pin female SATA connector (originally connected to the hdd) is attached to this 22-pin male-to-male SATA adapter. This adapter is then connected to the 22-pin female SATA end of the koutech (eSATAp) cable. The other end of the koutech cable exits the 515 and connects to the the eSATAp (Power over eSATA) port of either enclosure. No other cables are needed and the USB ports are not used. The enclosure gets its power from the 515 through the eSATAp cable, hence the name "Power over eSATA." It's provides data and power like USB does. The enclosure will turn on and off with the 515.

gm2040
post #42 of 47
Thread Starter 
people w/ convensionale DS like this, I'm assumming they are forced to leave it turned on prior to a scheduled recording.

I'm also thinking anytime the DS is on it's wearing the HDD correct.

lastly these DS doe's the HDD just idel (reducing wear on disc) when no data (recording ) is being transfered?



http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...%20%26%20eSATA

Thanks STB
post #43 of 47
Thank you for posting how to do this. I was able to get everything but the 22 Pin Male - Male Serial ATA Data and Power Adapter. It seems only one person in the universe sells this. And of cause they have been out of stock for a while. Do you know of another company that sells this? A google search just brings up male to female adapters by the millions. Thanks, Ed.
post #44 of 47
One thing I didn't mention before is if you swap between different brands of hard drive enclosures. If I swap between my generic and Startech enclosures, I have to do a short recording by pressing the record button BEFORE I go to my title list of recorded shows. If i don't, the mag 515 freezes up and I have to unplug it.

gm2040
Edited by gm2040 - 6/23/13 at 5:33am
post #45 of 47
gm2040 Thank you so much to responding so quickly to an older post.

I am confuse a little bit now. In the post and link was for a male to male adapter. So, It's really a male to female adapter then. The koutech cable is being shipped to me. So, I can't know right now which adapter would be correct.
post #46 of 47
I was in a hurry and didn't realize they were the wrong adapters. I deleted the links in my previous post. You're correct. You need a male to male adapter. I can't find anyone selling them either. However, I did find a male to male CABLE that should work with the Koutech cable.

http://estore.circuitassembly.com/products/22-pin-male-to-22-pin-male-sata-extender-cable.html

gm2040
post #47 of 47
Thank you so much gm2040 for your time.
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