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post #1 of 14
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Hey all,

Just recieved my 4 MFW-15s from GR Research and have started laying down some plans for my enclosures. Building material is still a little up in the air though, as I live in New Zealand it is unfortunatly impossible to source baltic birch ply. I understand there are certain favorable acoustic properties in baltic birch but given it is unavailable am I better off going with a different grain of ply or just making it out of MDF. My only concern with MDF is that these cabinets are going to be large and I am worried that MDF cabinets will be heavy as all hell.
post #2 of 14
You can used void free ply and you should be fine.
post #3 of 14
You could also laminate 10-12mm plywood to the same thickness of MDF. Also, by using a flexible adhesive like a PVA based glue and a roller, you can make a fairly dead panel mechanically.

Depending on cabinet construction technique, the plywood outside layer could be preveneered stock in your choice of species, and give you a cabinet that will be ready to finish without a separate veneering job.

Best regards,

John
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Technica View Post

I live in New Zealand it is unfortunatly impossible to source baltic birch ply.

From what I understand your hoop pine is the equivalent. You also can get Italian poplar, which works very well. In either case the material used matters far less than the construction method, which means bracing, not mass.
post #5 of 14
http://www.alibaba.com/product/vinth...5/Plywood.html

Slash Pine ,Radita , Hoop pine or Bamboo ply makes little difference .

Depending on cabinet construction technique, the plywood outside layer could be preveneered stock in your choice of species, and give you a cabinet that will be ready to finish without a separate veneering job.

I agree with this statement . Something we have personally learned when trying to isolate sound transmission or vibration : Inside bracing left short of physical contact with the outside carcass, works MUCH better than Tight fitting braces . You simply use a pliable adhesive such as 3M 5200 or Sikaflex to make the connection ,and allow the the interior vibration to terminate there . It still gives rigidity of construction without vibrational transfer.

I like 252 or 219

http://www.ellsworth.com/display/dis...0PDFs/Sika.pdf

As for species and color of finish you're on your own mate . I used to purvey timber from AU and veneer from Briggs . BOL ...

http://www.briggs.com.au/veneer.php

BOL
post #6 of 14
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http://www.alibaba.com/product/vinth...5/Plywood.html

You simply use a pliable adhesive such as 3M 5200 or Sikaflex to make the connection ,and allow the the interior vibration to terminate there . It still gives rigidity of construction without vibrational transfer.

Does anyone have a picture of how this bracing looks?
post #7 of 14
Did you check all 4 subs to make sure nothing is damaged?
post #8 of 14
Right cause I was under the asumption that all the mfw's where sold out except the ones that were questionable.. Hope that all is well with your drivers..
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jesse S View Post

Does anyone have a picture of how this bracing looks?

post #10 of 14
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I have more pics with dowels in each corner. I will never do this again though as it was a hassle to fit 12 different braces to size. It is much easier to use window bracing. Sorry again about the bad pic
LL
post #11 of 14
So basically the braces almost reach the ends but are held with adhesive so they dont transfer resonance? Similar to how green glue converts energy?
post #12 of 14
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So basically the braces almost reach the ends but are held with adhesive so they dont transfer resonance? Similar to how green glue converts energy?

I wedged them in there nice and tight and used PL adhesive to hold in place.
post #13 of 14
What are you guys paying for 5x5 sheets if Baltic birch? I had no luck at lowes or home depot, but found a family owned lumber yard that had it stocked. The quote I got was $69.99 per sheet. That's a little more than I thought it would be
post #14 of 14
I paid $65/ea for mine here in NY.
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