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I have another question as well. I'm running HDMI out from my PC's video card into the Video HDMI input on the VSX-53. I have the audio coming out of the PC and into the Video RCA input. I've re-read the entire manual and messed around with every setting on the receiver but can't see where I can assign the Video audio RCA input to the Video HDMI input.

How can I connect video output from my PC using HDMI but combine that with analog audio?

J
post #1172 of 1569
Hey guys, I also have a question. I have the vsx-50. What's the best way to adjust the subwoofer output, aside from simply turning it up/down on the sub itself? I assume one could do it on the main menu of the receiver.
I'm trying to get some more bass output, especially while watching cable. I already have the dial turned about 3/4 of the way up on the sub and I'm finding that I need the volume turned up pretty loud before it kicks the sub on while watching cable, louder than I feel like it should need to be anyway. Any advice would be great! Thanks
post #1173 of 1569
I use the audio digital out to connect to headphones. Does anyone know if there is a way to increase the volume for the audio digital out?
post #1174 of 1569
Not sure if this has been covered already, but 40 pages is a lot to look through. Can the 53 do 2-zone video out? I noticed it has the 2 output HDMI, but is it the same source? My friend has this receiver and wants to be able to watch football in one room and let his wife watch something else in the other. I told him he is better off with another receiver, but when he has parties..he wants all the audio the same.

I just want to see if this is possible. Thanks guys.
post #1175 of 1569
I have two VSX-53's and a Yamaha HTR-4065, all purchased about 6 weeks ago. All three are in different rooms and are hardwired to the home network to an ASUS RT-N66U router. HMG was working just fine but now for the last three weeks I cannot hear sound out of Airplay and cannot access Internet Radio stations. Airplay works just fine on the Yamaha. With Internet radio, TV display indicates it is playing but there is no sound. For Airplay, it indicates "now playing" but no specific album art appears...and again no sound. All of this worked just fine a month ago. I have rebooted all the devices. This started happening on both 53's at the same time. I haven't tried any other functionality within HMG besides Internet Radio and Airplay. Thanks for any thoughts or similar experiences.
Edited by wizard19 - 1/21/13 at 2:09pm
post #1176 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Abear2386 View Post

Not sure if this has been covered already, but 40 pages is a lot to look through. Can the 53 do 2-zone video out? I noticed it has the 2 output HDMI, but is it the same source? My friend has this receiver and wants to be able to watch football in one room and let his wife watch something else in the other. I told him he is better off with another receiver, but when he has parties..he wants all the audio the same.

I just want to see if this is possible. Thanks guys.

If you check page 21 of the manual, under multi-zone setup, it states the receiver can power up to 3 independent systems in separate rooms...different sources can be played in 3 zones at the same time, or the same source can also be used.
post #1177 of 1569
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Originally Posted by markmathers View Post

Hey guys, I also have a question. I have the vsx-50. What's the best way to adjust the subwoofer output, aside from simply turning it up/down on the sub itself? I assume one could do it on the main menu of the receiver.
I'm trying to get some more bass output, especially while watching cable. I already have the dial turned about 3/4 of the way up on the sub and I'm finding that I need the volume turned up pretty loud before it kicks the sub on while watching cable, louder than I feel like it should need to be anyway. Any advice would be great! Thanks

Need alot more info than youve given to answer this (is there a VSX-50 owner's thread?).

Did you run MCACC?
Are your fronts/center set to small?
What does the output level of the sub in the manual MCACC setting page say (i.e. -10, -3, 0, +4, etc)?
Have you gain leveled your sub after running MCACC with an SPL meter?
post #1178 of 1569
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Originally Posted by jcrayamsterdam View Post

I have another question as well. I'm running HDMI out from my PC's video card into the Video HDMI input on the VSX-53. I have the audio coming out of the PC and into the Video RCA input. I've re-read the entire manual and messed around with every setting on the receiver but can't see where I can assign the Video audio RCA input to the Video HDMI input.

How can I connect video output from my PC using HDMI but combine that with analog audio?

J

Is there a reason you cant use HDMI for audio AND video output from your PC to the receiver?
post #1179 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Mat1220 View Post

I just recently bought a VSX-1326k. I have two Klipsch 12 inch subs that I had been running with my old receiver. I had one cable run for the subs split right before going into the subs. ( My equipment is in another room) Now that my new receiver has 2 sub outs, is there an advantage to running another separate cable to the second sub or since they are powered it makes no difference having one cable split to the two subs? Thanks!

Matt

No advantage one way or the other.
post #1180 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

I have a question regarding the Hz setting for my speakers. I have the basic knowledge of what this does, but using the vastly recommended 80Hz setting for my satellites gives me a small and non-cohesive sound between my mids/highs and my bass. I've read so many times that you should have those set at 80Hz and let the sub handle everything lower, but it just doesn't sound right to me. The mic calibration set it to 150Hz and I didn't understand why at first, but I think I know why now. I decided to look up the specs to my speakers and all my satellites are rated at a low end of 60Hz. Ok, they can handle the 80Hz setting, so why did it sound like crap? I looked up my subwoofer and it is rated at the high end at 150Hz. Ok, so now I believe the mic calibration is not setting the Hz based on the satellites limits, but instead the subwoofer limit. Once I changed the AVR Hz setting back to 150Hz the sound came alive again and sounds perfectly matched.

So, my question is this -- If my sub and satellites are both spec'd to be able to handle 80Hz together, why does it sound so small and non-cohesive? With this widely used 80Hz setting I was expecting an improvement in sound quality, but it simply did not happen. Is the limits of the subwoofer more important when setting the Hz setting than the satellites are?

If Im understanding correctly, AFTER running MCACC the receiver is now showing your sub crossover point as 150Hz?

AFTER running a full MCACC, manually set your fronts and center to small.
Manually set your crossover at 80Hz.

Retest.
post #1181 of 1569
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Originally Posted by wizard19 View Post

I have two VSX-53's and a Yamaha HTR-4065, all purchased about 6 weeks ago. All three are in different rooms and are hardwired to the home network to an ASUS RT-N66U router. HMG was working just fine but now for the last three weeks I cannot hear sound out of Airplay and cannot access Internet Radio stations. Airplay works just fine on the Yamaha. With Internet radio, TV display indicates it is playing but there is no sound. For Airplay, it indicates "now playing" but no specific album art appears...and again no sound. All of this worked just fine a month ago. I have rebooted all the devices. This started happening on both 53's at the same time. I haven't tried any other functionality within HMG besides Internet Radio and Airplay. Thanks for any thoughts or similar experiences.

Update: Today it worked just fine - both Airplay and Internet radio. Not sure what changed but its working agin.
post #1182 of 1569
I'm not sure if this was covered already as there a lot of posts, but I've had my vsx-53 and as much as I love the sound, I have a few problems that maybe some of u can help me with. I've already had to take it in for service because my HDMI inputs stopped working. I would get an HDCP error message that would not go away no matter what pionneer told me to do. Eventually I brought in and they replaced the power supply, this was the first reciever that crapped out on me and considering its cost i was very suprised. Second issue is with the Dolby IIz. The system reverts to a 5.1 and doesn't play sound from the surround back speakers. What's the point if having the height if you're gonna lose sound in the rear? Thoughts anyone?
Peace
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Originally Posted by Brad Levine View Post

I'm not sure if this was covered already as there a lot of posts, but I've had my vsx-53 and as much as I love the sound, I have a few problems that maybe some of u can help me with. I've already had to take it in for service because my HDMI inputs stopped working. I would get an HDCP error message that would not go away no matter what pionneer told me to do. Eventually I brought in and they replaced the power supply, this was the first reciever that crapped out on me and considering its cost i was very suprised. Second issue is with the Dolby IIz. The system reverts to a 5.1 and doesn't play sound from the surround back speakers. What's the point if having the height if you're gonna lose sound in the rear? Thoughts anyone?
Peace

You have your surround speakers jacked into "surround" and not "surround back" right?
post #1184 of 1569
Everything is hooked up properly, Its a know thing that the the Surround back speakers turn off when using front height/wide. Alls im saying is that its annoying.
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I have a 53 and have noticed that I can't cycle through all my inputs using the left knob. I've narrowed it down to just the BD labeled hdmi input... It cycles correctly through all the others. Is there a reason that some of the inputs are labeled on the back with 'DVD' , ,'BD' etc? I can use the ios app to jump to any input, including the BD one, but can't cycle physically on the device. Any ideas?

 

thanks

post #1186 of 1569
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

If Im understanding correctly, AFTER running MCACC the receiver is now showing your sub crossover point as 150Hz?

AFTER running a full MCACC, manually set your fronts and center to small.
Manually set your crossover at 80Hz.

Retest.

That's correct. After running a full MCACC calibration, it sets my Hz setting for all speakers and sub to 150Hz. I just connected some surround height speakers and had to run the calibration again and the same thing happened. I'll try to set the satellites to 80Hz again and see if it's better than it was before.

Why do you lose surround back if you enable the front height speakers? I was not expecting that and now feel that I wasted a day shopping for speakers and doing the install. Is there really no way to enable the front height speakers without losing the surround back channels?
post #1187 of 1569
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Originally Posted by astrogeeker View Post

I have a 53 and have noticed that I can't cycle through all my inputs using the left knob. I've narrowed it down to just the BD labeled hdmi input... It cycles correctly through all the others. Is there a reason that some of the inputs are labeled on the back with 'DVD' , ,'BD' etc? I can use the ios app to jump to any input, including the BD one, but can't cycle physically on the device. Any ideas?

thanks

I'm assuming you have that particular device set to be skipped in the setup for the AVR, which basically hides it when scrolling through the devices.
post #1188 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post


I'm assuming you have that particular device set to be skipped in the setup for the AVR, which basically hides it when scrolling through the devices.

That was it! Thanks.

post #1189 of 1569
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

Is there a reason you cant use HDMI for audio AND video output from your PC to the receiver?

Blackangst,

Sorry for the really late response, I was out of town for a while. The HDMI out that I have on the computer is on the video card. So I'm not sure how I would route the audio through the HDMI out on the video card. I don't think that's possible but maybe I'm wrong on that...

J
post #1190 of 1569
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Originally Posted by jcrayamsterdam View Post

Hello all,

Back with another question. I'm stumped on how to search for the issue I have so I'll have to explain a length.

I had my contractor run a 50ft HDMI 1.4 cable in the wall between the TV and the receiver. Before closing up the wall I tested the cable using an Apple TV on one end and a TV on the other. The picture and audio were fine.

After he closed up the wall and I hooked everything up I was getting strange pixelation. It was like flashes of what I would call noise (green and red pixels in certain quadrants of the displayed video). We assumed that his guys hit the cable when they put the drywall up afterwards. This is what the output from the first cabled looked like (actual video I just captured from the first cable, I re-installed to show you):
I eventually got around to buying a replacement 30ft 1.4 HDMI cable (the run we need is only 25ft as it turns out but I wasn't sure which route he intended to take before he actually did it and bought 50ft just to be safe). We were going to fish the second cable in this weekend but I thought I'd test it to see if it was OK before running it through the wall. I get a lesser extent of distortion on this one but there is still a problem. This is what the output from the new cable looks like (the signal really does flash in and out like that, it's not just bad capture):
Between the time that I bought the first and second cable I had strung together two 6ft cables that I had lying around. I ran them between the TV and the receiver directly with a female-female connector to bridge them. That video looks immaculate. There is no artifacting or distortion at all. I was able to run it in 12ft but moving everything closer together, not high on the wife acceptance factor scale. Even low on mine.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Is it the quality of the cables I'm purchasing? Is it very bad luck? Something else?

J

Edited to add better quality video of issue.

Bump. Has anyone experienced this? I still have the issue and haven't come up with any new ideas.

The only thing I realized is that the two 6' cables that are strung together have magnets on each end of them. So maybe there's a need for better shielding?

J
post #1191 of 1569
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Originally Posted by jcrayamsterdam View Post


Bump. Has anyone experienced this? I still have the issue and haven't come up with any new ideas.

The only thing I realized is that the two 6' cables that are strung together have magnets on each end of them. So maybe there's a need for better shielding?

J

no, i haven't had any such problem with my vsx53 + w7000 projector via a 25ft HDMI cable. what brand/type cable are you using? I got this one after reading many reviews:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EZTUMU/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

post #1192 of 1569
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Originally Posted by jcrayamsterdam View Post

Blackangst,

Sorry for the really late response, I was out of town for a while. The HDMI out that I have on the computer is on the video card. So I'm not sure how I would route the audio through the HDMI out on the video card. I don't think that's possible but maybe I'm wrong on that...

J

Yes, you can. You need to set up bitsreaming though. I would head over to the HTPC forums on how to do that. Ive done it for years smile.gif
post #1193 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

That's correct. After running a full MCACC calibration, it sets my Hz setting for all speakers and sub to 150Hz. I just connected some surround height speakers and had to run the calibration again and the same thing happened. I'll try to set the satellites to 80Hz again and see if it's better than it was before.

Then what you need to do is run full MCACC, manually change your speakers to small, manually set your xover to 80htz. If you need to run MCACC again you can do a full MCACC but keep speaker settings. In the menu I think its under manual MCACC.

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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

Why do you lose surround back if you enable the front height speakers? I was not expecting that and now feel that I wasted a day shopping for speakers and doing the install. Is there really no way to enable the front height speakers without losing the surround back channels?

Because then that would be 9.1 (Center, 2 fronts, 2 surround, 2 rear surround, 2 height + sub = 9.1) and the VSX52/53 is only a 7.1 receiver wink.gif
post #1194 of 1569
Okay total novice(noob) here...

I got a new in the box Pioneer Elite VSX-50. I know it's now discontinued and because of that the Pioneer people are very unhelpful with questions.

So I am here to talk to the real experts.

Here are my 2 magic questions:

1)How can I get HDMI passthrough to work? I just want the TV to work with its own speakers without having the VSX-50 turned on? I was testing a Marantz 1602 and passthrough worked with no complications. Pioneer says I have to turn on Anynet on my Samsung TV. I also have a DirecTV HR22/100 HDDVR that he said would need to setup also? Anyways tried what he suggested and nothing happened. This was not the case with the Marantz it just worked.


2) I have no OnScreenDisplay for the Volume and Mute on the TV. I only see them displayed on the Receiver's little display? Again the Marantz 1602 was not like this.


I know I don't have a 52 or 53 but any guidance from you guys would be much appreciated.
Edited by wouldman - 2/4/13 at 4:12pm
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Number 2 answer is there is no overlay. But the app works great if you have an iPad or android device or phone.
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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

Number 2 answer is there is no overlay. But the app works great if you have an iPad or android device or phone.

Wow. that's pretty sad. Thanks for confirming.

Any experience with the HDMI passthough on the VSX-50?
post #1197 of 1569
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Originally Posted by wouldman View Post

Wow. that's pretty sad. Thanks for confirming.

Any experience with the HDMI passthough on the VSX-50?

My TV i have a setting that says use TV speakers or use external speakers. it can only be one at a time to my knowledge, but i'm not aware of a setting on the VSX that does that. Perhaps it is with the HDMI control, but that also has seemed to cause other issues that i remember reading about in the thread. perhaps someone with more knowledge on this specific topic can opine?
post #1198 of 1569
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Originally Posted by wouldman View Post

Wow. that's pretty sad. Thanks for confirming.

Any experience with the HDMI passthough on the VSX-50?

Some call it sad, some call it great. When I had a Yammy receiver there was a pretty heated discussion that most users did NOT want the volume or mute overlay to display, and Yammy released a new firmware to take it away. Its really a user preference.

As far as HDMI pass though goes, reading your manual page 84 talked about ARC. Your TV will need to support this feature.

edit: With everything hooked up via HDMI, try this: turn your receiver on, turn your TV on, then turn your receiver off. Now try the TV volume (remember you'll have to change it in the TV settings!). Just a quick Google search it appears the VSX50 supports HDMI pass through.
Edited by blackangst - 2/5/13 at 5:05pm
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Has anyone else been getting HDCP error messages? My HDMI's stopped working and my unit had to be serviced. This was the first unit I've ever owned that has needed it. And by far the most expensive. Anyway, they replaced the power supply and the problem was solved. Very weird that an HDCP error message would be fixed by replacing the power supply....thoughts, comments, suggestions would be appreciated.
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I've noticed a new problem with Airplay playback.. i'm not sure when this started but it definitely used to work, and now does not.

 

when using the pioneer as an airplay source, either from my mac or iPhone, the AVR will begin to play as expected. However any time i change the volume, either from the AVR, the iPhone music app or the pioneer iControl app, the AVR will stop playing and the music is redirected back to the iphone or mac. The airplay signal seems to just 'break'. I'm not sure when this started happening, but it definitely did not used to happen, and now does.. i'm thinking a few months ago this started. Its hard to tell where the problem is.. but since this happens when pushing airplay content from my mac AND iphone, i tend to think its the pioneer. Perhaps this is a bug introduced when they fixed the pandora login problem a few months ago? I think thats roughly when this started happening. Anyone else having this problem?

 

At this point i have to change the volume before engauging Airplay.. which is not a great solution here.. This does not happen with other audio inputs to the AVR.. just airplay.

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