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post #781 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Huskrsfan4ever View Post

I have a web-enable TV and tried to play a NetFlix movie through the tv which i have connected to a VSX-53 using the HDMI OUT 1. I couldnt hear the audio from the TV "source" through my receiver...only from the speakers on the TV itself. I tried different inputs on the receiver control, but nothing seemed to work for me. So i could see the video playing but lost the use of my receiver and home audio for the sound. Doesn't Audio Return Channel bring this audio back into the receiver from the TV?

Probably a dumb question with an easy answer (i hope) but i couldn't figure it out. I appreciate any help.

You need to turn on CEC control on both the TV and the RCVR to get ARC to work.
post #782 of 1569
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Originally Posted by mbecc1 View Post


So I need to get the AS-WL300 to connect to the router wirelessly?

I was considering getting one . I tested the iOS app and AirPlay on a spare wireless router I had. It was only hard wired to the reciever and I connected to the routers network wirelessly on my iPhone. I am looking into finding away to bridge the two wireless routers together. It is not supported on the router and the router is not listed as supported DD-WRT .
post #783 of 1569
Hello -

I have recently purchased a VSX 52 to power my 5.1 system which is the monitor audio silver's and a def tech supercube 4000. I was hoping to use the other 2 channels to power 3 sets of outdoor speakers.

Can that be accomplished with a speaker switch? Another option was to get the Sonos connect AMP for outside and possibly use the play 3 for another room in the house, but that isn't really needed at this time and was hoping to save the money. Can the sonos power 6 speakers?? VSX is 110w per channel adn i have 2, while the sonus is 55W x 2 so i assume the VSX is a better choice??

For outside, it's a work in process so mainly it's just for ambiance. at some point i may get an outdoor screen and projector and watch movies during summer.
post #784 of 1569
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Originally Posted by rczarne View Post

I was considering getting one . I tested the iOS app and AirPlay on a spare wireless router I had. It was only hard wired to the reciever and I connected to the routers network wirelessly on my iPhone. I am looking into finding away to bridge the two wireless routers together. It is not supported on the router and the router is not listed as supported DD-WRT .

I used the netgear wn2500 bridge to connect to my netgear n750 router on the 5.4ghz channel and it works great. If you have two routers, i think you have to put one into bridge mode and then it will work but there are limitations with that approach, ie you can't use the 5.4ghz channel and only the 2.4ghz. Thats assuming your router is N capable, otherwise you can do it.

The approach above will allow you to connect your other devices and stream HD over wireless depending on your download speed and where you live, ie any others using the same channel.
post #785 of 1569
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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

I used the netgear wn2500 bridge to connect to my netgear n750 router on the 5.4ghz channel and it works great. If you have two routers, i think you have to put one into bridge mode and then it will work but there are limitations with that approach, ie you can't use the 5.4ghz channel and only the 2.4ghz. Thats assuming your router is N capable, otherwise you can do it.

The approach above will allow you to connect your other devices and stream HD over wireless depending on your download speed and where you live, ie any others using the same channel.

You can use both radios simultaneously IF your router supports it (i.e. a Linksys E3000 or E4200 for example) and IF said router supports either tomato or DD-WRT. Most consumer routers dont support bridge mode with stock firmware.
post #786 of 1569
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

You can use both radios simultaneously IF your router supports it (i.e. a Linksys E3000 or E4200 for example) and IF said router supports either tomato or DD-WRT. Most consumer routers dont support bridge mode with stock firmware.

Very True Blackangst, however for my netgear i didn't want to flash the firmware and the extender provided the same service at a lower price than getting another n750 router.

For me, I wanted the 5.4GHZ and the router i was using didn't support that in bridge mode. Perhaps the linksys you mentioned don't have that issue??
post #787 of 1569
I don't mean to be a pest but I still haven't heard anyone say if I need to get the AS-WL300 to connect to the router wirelessly?
post #788 of 1569
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Originally Posted by mbecc1 View Post

I don't mean to be a pest but I still haven't heard anyone say if I need to get the AS-WL300 to connect to the router wirelessly?

Mbecc -

If you want to connect to the router you either need to do a hard wired connection from the receiver or connect through wireless. Pioneer has their adapter you can buy and that will work, or you can get another router or extender and use that instead. That all depends if you have a need to connect multiple devices to your main router. For example, I have a PS3, directv and the pioneer all connected through my extender.
post #789 of 1569
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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

Very True Blackangst, however for my netgear i didn't want to flash the firmware and the extender provided the same service at a lower price than getting another n750 router.

For me, I wanted the 5.4GHZ and the router i was using didn't support that in bridge mode. Perhaps the linksys you mentioned don't have that issue??

Again, IF the router is compatible with DD-WRT firmware, then you can set up the 5ghz radio as a bridge, and the 2.4ghz radio as an AP, or vice versa. However you want. But it wont do that out of the box.

For example, in my setup, Ive got an E4200 upstairs in my office with my main PC connected to the internet, and an E3000 downstairs to service my receiver and HTPC. My 5ghz radio is my bridge to the main router upstairs, and the 2.4ghz radio is on in AP mode so I and others can connect via wifi on our phones and laptops where 5ghz isnt supported. The receiver and the HTPC are hard wired into the E3000 so my transmission from there to the internet via the E4200 upstairs is the fastest.

Make sense?
post #790 of 1569
Recently bought a new VSX-53 and I'm noticing when i use the auto surround function a lot of programing is coming in as "stereo" for dolby or another surround option. I have directv hooked up via HDMI and i didn't notice this problem with my old onkyo 807 when it was in auto mode. Any advice from the forum as to why i'm getting a lot of content in "stereo" mode.
post #791 of 1569
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Originally Posted by badgerfan04 View Post

Recently bought a new VSX-53 and I'm noticing when i use the auto surround function a lot of programing is coming in as "stereo" for dolby or another surround option. I have directv hooked up via HDMI and i didn't notice this problem with my old onkyo 807 when it was in auto mode. Any advice from the forum as to why i'm getting a lot of content in "stereo" mode.

Because that's what its coming in as. I suggest using the THX surround modes.
post #792 of 1569
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

Again, IF the router is compatible with DD-WRT firmware, then you can set up the 5ghz radio as a bridge, and the 2.4ghz radio as an AP, or vice versa. However you want. But it wont do that out of the box.

For example, in my setup, Ive got an E4200 upstairs in my office with my main PC connected to the internet, and an E3000 downstairs to service my receiver and HTPC. My 5ghz radio is my bridge to the main router upstairs, and the 2.4ghz radio is on in AP mode so I and others can connect via wifi on our phones and laptops where 5ghz isnt supported. The receiver and the HTPC are hard wired into the E3000 so my transmission from there to the internet via the E4200 upstairs is the fastest.

Make sense?

yes makes absolute sense.

would you happen to know about my other question?? whether the two channels i have left would be able to power 6 outdoor speakers or if the sonos connect amp would be better?
post #793 of 1569
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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

yes makes absolute sense.

would you happen to know about my other question?? whether the two channels i have left would be able to power 6 outdoor speakers or if the sonos connect amp would be better?

*Can* the VSX-52 power 6 more speakers, and *can it do it efficiently* are two seperate questions . You could have a wire run to a switch, then out to the 6 more speakers via a switch using zone 2; however, if you were ever in a situation where you needed your main zone 1 setup AND your zone 2 setup to run simultaneously, your main setup will suffer. That switch connected to 6 speakers will draw quite a bit of power from the receiver.

I would use the Sonos.
post #794 of 1569
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

*Can* the VSX-52 power 6 more speakers, and *can it do it efficiently* are two seperate questions . You could have a wire run to a switch, then out to the 6 more speakers via a switch using zone 2; however, if you were ever in a situation where you needed your main zone 1 setup AND your zone 2 setup to run simultaneously, your main setup will suffer. That switch connected to 6 speakers will draw quite a bit of power from the receiver.

I would use the Sonos.

appreciate the response. yes that is how i was going to do it now, through the switch. the situations where i would be running both zones would be rare, perhaps a party, otherwise it's one or the other.

I dont see a situation where i'm watching a movie in zone 1 and using zone 2 at a high volume level where both need to be cranking. zone 2 is more ambiance so if it is doable then it saves the $900 or so i need to spend on a sonus amp and then another speaker for somewhere else in the house, none of which has to be done now.

so i think i will do it through the vsx and assess how it sounds / works. thanks Blackangst.
post #795 of 1569
Well it's been a little over a week now. Have finally gotten the 53 to play all my devices through HDMI 1 out on the TV, but when I try to use HDMI 2 out on the projector it appears to attempt to connect, then goes blank and will not pass any video signal. I got it to work once, but not sure what I did to get it to work. I tried several times but still can figure what is wrong. When it did play it was a great picture, but I tried to switch the input to another device and lost the signal. I have turned all of the HDMI control features off on all the components, unplugged all power cords, reconnected, the plugged in power cords, and this seemed to work for the TV but not on the projector. I am using a Mitsubishi HC6800 with HDMI input for the HDMI 2 out, the TV is Samsung Plasma on HDMI 1.
I have slowly been working through the instruction manual (90 plus pages!!!!) trying to figure out the problem, but just not able to understand all of the tech that seems to play a part in this...
Just wish that things could be just a little simpler for me....
post #796 of 1569
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Originally Posted by RABBITFISH View Post

Well it's been a little over a week now. Have finally gotten the 53 to play all my devices through HDMI 1 out on the TV, but when I try to use HDMI 2 out on the projector it appears to attempt to connect, then goes blank and will not pass any video signal. I got it to work once, but not sure what I did to get it to work. I tried several times but still can figure what is wrong. When it did play it was a great picture, but I tried to switch the input to another device and lost the signal. I have turned all of the HDMI control features off on all the components, unplugged all power cords, reconnected, the plugged in power cords, and this seemed to work for the TV but not on the projector. I am using a Mitsubishi HC6800 with HDMI input for the HDMI 2 out, the TV is Samsung Plasma on HDMI 1.
I have slowly been working through the instruction manual (90 plus pages!!!!) trying to figure out the problem, but just not able to understand all of the tech that seems to play a part in this...
Just wish that things could be just a little simpler for me....

Out of curiosity, have you tried doing it with HDMI control *on*? Do you have your receiver set as the last device to turn on?
post #797 of 1569
I am trying turning on each piece in different sequences, haven't found the right one. I can get the blue ray to pass to the projector, but it's with the select output, stall, turn off receiver, turn back on then projector will pick up the blue ray, if I try to change to a different input, like the computer, it will drop the signal, and I still have not found a way to get that one to work. I will try the HDMI control again, and see if that will work. All of the connected components work fine through the receiver going to the HDMI 1 output to the Samsung TV, just on output 2 to projector is the problem showing up.

I suspect that there is some type of conflict going on between the projector and the receiver. Probably just a setting that I am missing. But it is incredibly frustrating!!!! It should just plug in and work!
Ha Ha Ha.
I have not even begun to work on the network connections yet!!!!
post #798 of 1569
What blu ray player would you recommend that takes advantage of the best audio the VSX-53 has to offer and the best picture my 1080p plasma can deliver? I'm looking to be in the $500 price range. Thanks.
post #799 of 1569
This one: Oppo 93

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Originally Posted by mbecc1 View Post

What blu ray player would you recommend that takes advantage of the best audio the VSX-53 has to offer and the best picture my 1080p plasma can deliver? I'm looking to be in the $500 price range. Thanks.
post #800 of 1569
^^^

yup. if the op wants to spend 5 bills, the list starts and ends with the oppo 93...
post #801 of 1569
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Originally Posted by mbecc1 View Post

What blu ray player would you recommend that takes advantage of the best audio the VSX-53 has to offer and the best picture my 1080p plasma can deliver? I'm looking to be in the $500 price range. Thanks.

Panasonic just released their 2012 models. Might want to give them a look.
post #802 of 1569
RABBITFISH,

On the VSX53's two HDMI Out's, there are three choices,
HDMI 1 or HDMI 2 or both with HDMI ALL Out.
You should have yours set to HDMI ALL Out.

Also only HDMI 1 Out does CEC or HDMI Control.
Look on page 54 of the OP Manual.

Good Luck,

Bud B
post #803 of 1569
After several different attempts, I got it to work ONCE, I turned on the TV and while it was connected to the source, I turned on the projector, now I had two displays on with HDMI set to HDMI out all. With the TV on the projector picked up the signal, then I turned off the TV and the projector kept the connection. After I turned off the projector, I had to turn the receiver off and on several times before the TV could pick up the input signal again......
There has got to be a setting that I'm missing somewhere..................

In the old days you plugged it in and it worked.........
This new tech is giving me a headache!!!!
post #804 of 1569
I was comparing some receivers on the Pio website and I saw some terms that I was unaware. Can someone please explain them to me and how they may affect my enjoyment of the reciever.

192K/24-Bit DACs by the way the SC 57 is listed as 32 bits

Midnight Listening and Loudness. None systems offered this. I do not know why pio would list this in the first place. I guess other companies must provide this feature on their units.

DTS Neo X.

Thanks
post #805 of 1569
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Originally Posted by stamina1914 View Post

I was comparing some receivers on the Pio website and I saw some terms that I was unaware. Can someone please explain them to me and how they may affect my enjoyment of the reciever.

192K/24-Bit DACs by the way the SC 57 is listed as 32 bits

Realistically, its marketing fluff. S/PDIF is set to 20 bits with 24 bits being optional, AES3 is set at 24 bits, and HDMI is set at 24 bits. Real life audible difference between two otherwise identical DACS? None.

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Originally Posted by stamina1914 View Post

Midnight Listening and Loudness. None systems offered this. I do not know why pio would list this in the first place. I guess other companies must provide this feature on their units.

Most AVR's nowadays offer some form of this. They just call it different things. But the consensus is, it degrades sound quality. I personally have mine off.

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Originally Posted by stamina1914 View Post

DTS Neo X.

Thanks

This decodes stereo, 5.1, or 7.1 sources into up to 11.1, which normally includes front height AND width channels. Unlike Dolby PLII which only does one or the other.
post #806 of 1569
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

This one: Oppo 93

Any thoughts on Marantz, Denon or obviously Pioneer Elite blu ray players? Any models that you guys like in the 500 dollar price range that are worth their asking price?
post #807 of 1569
^^^

quoting myself....

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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

yup. if the op wants to spend 5 bills, the list starts and ends with the oppo 93...
post #808 of 1569
hi there!
sorry if it's been already asked.
can this receiver play Flac's from USB pen drive?
thanks in advance
PS:i have an LX55 AVR
post #809 of 1569
Having trouble getting audio thru HDMI out to additional TV's.
Anyone able to help?
Thanks!
Rod
post #810 of 1569
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Originally Posted by RABBITFISH View Post

After several different attempts, I got it to work ONCE, I turned on the TV and while it was connected to the source, I turned on the projector, now I had two displays on with HDMI set to HDMI out all. With the TV on the projector picked up the signal, then I turned off the TV and the projector kept the connection. After I turned off the projector, I had to turn the receiver off and on several times before the TV could pick up the input signal again......
There has got to be a setting that I'm missing somewhere..................

In the old days you plugged it in and it worked.........
This new tech is giving me a headache!!!!

Rabbitfish, I totally agree with your last 2 sentences! HDMI is a PITA!
When it works it's great but it shouldn't be this sensitive,touchy,picky, plug n play it's not!

I'm having almost identical problems with my vsx-53. One time output 2 only works, next time only the control output 1 works, it's ridiculous!
I am only outputting to one TV but when I recently had a frustrating handshake issue I switched from #2 out to #1 out and that solved it. I just added a HDD DVR to my system and it wouldn't show up (output #1) on the newly assigned input, I then switched back to # 2 and that worked!
Can someone explain this to me as to why this sometimes happens? I'm no newbie to gear but am a newbie to hdmi and it's problems and am really trying to understand it but am very frustrated and disappointed in the way it works "doesn't" work!

I started out using out # 2 because I wasn't interested in "control" and it worked fine. Then I got curious and wanted to just be able to switch from #1 and 2 out to make sure if anything that 1- it worked and 2- if there was any difference! Right from that point I saw that I had no output from #1 and thought maybe it was defective but then later when I had a handshake problem, I powered off replugged into #1 and it worked, so why will it not work with both outputs one time and another time #1 works and then another time #2 works or doesn't, if you follow my drift?

When I am using output #2 I am turning off control, when I use #1 I then turn it back on and off when I'm experiencing problems.

If Bud or someone can baby me through this I would be most grateful !
I will be in and out through today and the weekend but will be checking this frequently.

Thanks in advance for help for me and people like Rabbitfish to get a handle on what may be the root of this issue!
Maybe we've got bad units, I don't know.
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