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post #61 of 304
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Originally Posted by voodoozen View Post

Anyone still on the fence? ebay deal of the day is a shiny new 3DS for only $150 with free shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Ame...item870d32ea0b

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YA?
ill wait
post #62 of 304
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Originally Posted by moothemagiccow View Post

so are there multiplayer games other than street fighter and doa?

I think RE:Mercenaries does as well, but Mario Kart, Starfox are coming soon and will support multiplayer, as will all the NES VC games after some yet-to-happen update.

-vdz
post #63 of 304
FYI, the 3DS Ambassador NES games are available a day early.

...Trying to get them just reminds me how annoying the eShop is.

I'm okay with it being hidden under settings>your Downloads>Redownload, because clearly they didn't originally plan for this.

But you need to download each one, one at a time, and after it finishes each one, it sends you back to the main shop menu.
post #64 of 304
Yeah, it's really a weak way to do it. But it's probably much faster than forcing everyone to buy them individually and a lot less of a burden on their servers.

Honestly, I'm just impressed that, for once, a company delivered early instead of late on this kind of bonus.
post #65 of 304
Is there a message or some notification for people who are eligible for the bonus?
post #66 of 304
Got my 10 free games. It wasn't the most streamlined of processes, but it really wasn't that bad, especially considering, y'know, free. At the same time you can't help but think that aaaaaaany other company would've come up with a smoother way to do this.

Anyway as expected I played each game for like five minutes then went right back to Link's Awakening. It was fun reliving a truth I first learned when I was eight years old though, that being, that Ice Climbers suuuuuuucks.
post #67 of 304
I only downloaded like 2 of the games.

I'm playing Shadow Wars, it's really really good.
post #68 of 304
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Welllll, I think we've got an answer:

Q: So... what is Nintendo up to with the 3DS?

A: They have absolutely no idea


It's official, the 3DS is renamed to "Nintendo WTF"

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Originally Posted by http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/07/3ds_stuff_in_famitsu/ View Post

Officially the cradle adds:
- A right analog slide-pad
- R1, R2, L2 shoulder buttons (the normal 3DS L1 button is not replaced)
- An earphone port at the bottom

Unannounced, but speculated based on CE Marks on the inside of the cradle:
- The cradle could be a battery pack or have a container for the battery
- The cradle also has wireless functions, possibly replacing those on the 3DS

Mock up

So basically this is Nintendo showing that they rushed the launch.

Stolen from alr1ghtstart over at Neogaf, but damn appropriate at this point.





[EDIT]
Confirmed over at IGN:


Looks a lot like the nerf armor for DS

{someone let me know if we're not supposed to post images from magazines, I'll cut the img}
post #69 of 304
Wow. Ugggggggleeeee. Kinda don't see why the 3DS needs a second analog pad. Supposedly this is mostly for Monster Hunter though, which is pretty goddamn huge in Japan, so in that sense it's not too surprising they'd release a peripheral for it. Sort of expecting/hoping it goes mostly ignored otherwise, like oh, every other Nintendo peripheral.
post #70 of 304
totally fakity fake fake
post #71 of 304
No, it's not fake.

It's ugly as hell though.
post #72 of 304


prove me wrong
and US isnt getting monster hunter tri anyway
post #73 of 304
I don't know why that picture is all weird like that. But it's from Famitsu. Monster Hunter is coming with it. That's good enough for me.
post #74 of 304
The attachment is for the new Monster Hunter game, it doesn't mean they are altering all future 3DS' or anything.
post #75 of 304
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Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

The attachment is for the new Monster Hunter game, it doesn't mean they are altering all future 3DS' or anything.

Rumor has it Kid Icarus could use this as well, at least as an optional attachment, ala classic controller for Wii.


Good eyes, Moo... considering the source I assume it's true, but odd they'd let that get into print...
post #76 of 304
So Nintendo had their conference today.

Highlights off the top of my head:
-official dates for Super Mario 3D Land (11/13) and Mario Kart 7 (12/4)
-Mario Tennis 3D & Fire Emblem announced
-Monster Hunter, Dynasty Wars, Culdcept, Kingdom Hearts
-system update that supports 3D video recording and a revamped store
-Circle pad Add-on is definitely real, it will be used with many other games (like Resident Evil and Metal Gear). Will cost about $15 and needs 1 AAA battery.

My thoughts: definitely more Japanese focused, but the official dates for SM3DL and MK7 are welcome. As is Mario Tennis and Fire Emblem.
post #77 of 304
I sort of wish more of that excited me, but Fire Emblem is welcome news, especially since the franchise basically skipped the DS. I was also pleased to hear that more games (Animal Crossing, Mario Kart) will be supporting StreetPass. Animal Crossing especially seems like a natural for that sort of thing.

They'll also be adding new content to Mii StreetPass Plaza, in addition to the 3D video recording and the eShop update. I eagerly await being vastly disappointed by how little the eShop will really change. Still, it's nice to know they're serious about adding/enhancing the preloaded software and not just letting it sit there unchanged until the end of time.
post #78 of 304
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

So Nintendo had their conference today.

Highlights off the top of my head:
-official dates for Super Mario 3D Land (11/13) and Mario Kart 7 (12/4)
-Mario Tennis 3D & Fire Emblem announced
-Monster Hunter, Dynasty Wars, Culdcept, Kingdom Hearts
-system update that supports 3D video recording and a revamped store
-Circle pad Add-on is definitely real, it will be used with many other games (like Resident Evil and Metal Gear). Will cost about $15 and needs 1 AAA battery.

My thoughts: definitely more Japanese focused, but the official dates for SM3DL and MK7 are welcome. As is Mario Tennis and Fire Emblem.

Just read through this list... and it's looking very light on "west appealing" games in the near term, and more games using the add-on pad than I expected so soon. Monster Hunter we knew, but add:
  • RE:Revelations
  • Metal Gear Snake Eater
  • Ace Combat
  • Kingdom Hearts
  • "And More"

Games that require it will be indicated by the "Nintendo Eyesore" logo




Then Ninty shares dropped another 5% after the announcement...


[EDIT] Wait, it TAKES a AAA battery? This thing needs a battery to operate, not adds battery capacity? Oh, my, Miyamoto...

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Originally Posted by Reuters View Post

Shares in software provider Capcom slumped by 8.3 percent after the company said it would be developing the next generation of its hit Monster Hunter game for the 3DS
post #79 of 304
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Originally Posted by voodoozen View Post

Games that require it will be indicated by the "Nintendo Eyesore" logo

Okay, that's pretty funny.

I'm a little surprised by the stock drop. That seems like a pretty exciting lineup from a Japanese perspective. But I guess anything but "F*** it you guys, we're just going to make games for the iPad now" would cause a drop anyway.
post #80 of 304
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Okay, that's pretty funny.

I'm a little surprised by the stock drop. That seems like a pretty exciting lineup from a Japanese perspective. But I guess anything but "F*** it you guys, we're just going to make games for the iPad now" would cause a drop anyway.

That's really the s#!!tiest part- DQX, MH and the inevitable Pokemon mean guaranteed sales and everyone knows it, but unless analysts get "Mario will appear on iOS!" they'll kill the stock rating. Then if Nintendo ever breaks and announces iOS support, stocks will re-plummet on speculation of "eviscerated future hardware and eshop sales".

I mean, yeah, I've been in the uselessly complaining boat recently, but I'm just bummed by the lack of real innovation on N's part. I'm not worried that they'll have steady and ever-increasing sales. No way Apple and Android are going to suddenly eliminate the market for dedicated mobile gaming.

Right?
post #81 of 304
What would need power for the 2nd analog control?
post #82 of 304
It's probably connected via Bluetooth or whatever is built-in to the 3DS.
post #83 of 304
I'd say it's most likely using that weird IR port that nobody mentions because it has no uses yet, especially if it's only using a AAA battery.

If you're going to release an attachment that big and bulky though, for a system that already has issues with battery life, how do you not just put a battery pack inside it to double the time you can use the system?
post #84 of 304
How would it even connect to the 3DS to be able to feed it battery power, though? And then they would've wanted to charge more for it, which doesn't work if they want mass adoption of this monstrosity.

The very concept of the peripheral still kinda bugs me though. So much for the always simplifying, "Controllers have way too many buttons" Nintendo of old; now a portable console that has an analog stick, a d-pad, four face buttons, select/start buttons, two shoulder buttons, and a touchscreen somehow doesn't offer enough inputs. Nope, gotta have a second stick and three more shoulder buttons to hunt monsters.

Say, doesn't this give the 3DS the exact same number of inputs as a Wii U controller? Hmmm...
post #85 of 304
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Originally Posted by ThisOneKidMongo View Post

How would it even connect to the 3DS to be able to feed it battery power, though? And then they would've wanted to charge more for it, which doesn't work if they want mass adoption of this monstrosity.

The very concept of the peripheral still kinda bugs me though. So much for the always simplifying, "Controllers have way too many buttons" Nintendo of old; now a portable console that has an analog stick, a d-pad, four face buttons, select/start buttons, two shoulder buttons, and a touchscreen somehow doesn't offer enough inputs. Nope, gotta have a second stick and three more shoulder buttons to hunt monsters.

Say, doesn't this give the 3DS the exact same number of inputs as a Wii U controller? Hmmm...

An answer to multiple tablet controllers for WiiU, maybe?
post #86 of 304
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Originally Posted by ThisOneKidMongo View Post

How would it even connect to the 3DS to be able to feed it battery power, though? And then they would've wanted to charge more for it, which doesn't work if they want mass adoption of this monstrosity.

Could've easily used the same popout style connector as the current dock.

As for mass adoption, I don't see that happening no matter how little they're charging for it.
post #87 of 304
I believe that logo just indicates that a 3DS game supports this optional accessory.

I've heard nothing about software requiring it, and I don't believe Nintendo would allow such a thing. I'm sure even this Monster Hunter game will support single analog stick users.

A publisher doesn't want to limit the potential size of its market unless it's absolutely necessary. I doubt few, if any, 3DS releases will occur that demand this accessory be used or have to be played on a 3DS revision that incorporated these additions.
post #88 of 304
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Originally Posted by ThisOneKidMongo View Post

now a portable console that has an analog stick, a d-pad, four face buttons, select/start buttons, two shoulder buttons, and a touchscreen somehow doesn't offer enough inputs. Nope, gotta have a second stick and three more shoulder buttons to hunt monsters.

To be fair to Nintendo, I wonder if this Capcom dictating to them. Monster Hunter is a HUGE franchise in Japan and people would buy this...thing...just to have it for MH. Chances are it's being offered to maintain consistency with other MH games and Nintendo's offering it for other stuff (and will receive the same level of non-support after this).
post #89 of 304
I read the stick wasnt required for MH 3GS - you could use the touch screen
post #90 of 304
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Originally Posted by WizarDru View Post
To be fair to Nintendo, I wonder if this Capcom dictating to them. Monster Hunter is a HUGE franchise in Japan and people would buy this...thing...just to have it for MH. Chances are it's being offered to maintain consistency with other MH games and Nintendo's offering it for other stuff (and will receive the same level of non-support after this).
Except it's not! The PSP game uses only one analog. It kind of sucks but people adapt - look up "Monster Hunter claw."

Of course the Monster Hunter claw is ridiculous. Probably more ridiculous than this add-on. I can see why Nintendo is doing it, it just looks dumb.

I don't really want to play a game like MH on a portable, but that's where I differ from Japanese gamers. So I'm fine without the second analog, or games that need it. But Nintendo should've put it in.
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