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post #751 of 1832
10/27/11 at 2:21pm
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I got my chairs from theaterseatstore.com, but I would buy them from Roman (sales@rtheaters.com here on the forums, but at rtheaters.com) They are Berkline Reno's but are also known as Lane #103. I've sat on them in my garage so far and they are quite comfy.

The screen is an AT (Acoustically Transparent) screen from SMX Cinema Solutions. (Their Cineweave HD material). The whole purpose of this material is for sound to pass through without problems.

You went with the SMX pre-built screen frame too? If so, why instead of building your own?
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post #752 of 1832
10/28/11 at 6:39am
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You went with the SMX pre-built screen frame too? If so, why instead of building your own?

Yes I did. BIG discussed building my own frame and just buying the material. It would save me some cash, and we could buy the SeymourAV material direct at a cheap price. But in the end the screen didn't cost that much, and Ruben gave us a good deal, so we went with SMX. I'm sort of happy we did anyway since my inspiration for this theater was from his design.
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post #753 of 1832
10/28/11 at 6:41am
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So right now I have all of my debit card, credit card, checks, and paypal statements in front of me. I'm categorizing all of my costs, what I purchased, where I got it from, and hyperlinks to the items if applicable. Hopefully I will post all of it sometime today. What this won't show is a breakdown of exactly what I purchased at places like Lowes and Home Depot, since each receipt is cumulative, and I'm not going to itemize those costs. But for things I purchased online, I will definitely do that for you.
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post #754 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:31am
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If you can get all the chairs in after the carpet on the eighth and the projector is already up that means 105 days from demo to your first Movie!

WOW!
This is a killer space
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post #755 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:41am
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So right now I have all of my debit card, credit card, checks, and paypal statements in front of me. I'm categorizing all of my costs, what I purchased, where I got it from, and hyperlinks to the items if applicable.

After 6 years, I'm afraid to total up mine.
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post #756 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

So right now I have all of my debit card, credit card, checks, and paypal statements in front of me. I'm categorizing all of my costs, what I purchased, where I got it from, and hyperlinks to the items if applicable. Hopefully I will post all of it sometime today. What this won't show is a breakdown of exactly what I purchased at places like Lowes and Home Depot, since each receipt is cumulative, and I'm not going to itemize those costs. But for things I purchased online, I will definitely do that for you.

I'm with you Logan - I think I'm going to avoid this also.
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post #757 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:50am
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Hold your breath.

Grand Total: 36,425.28

And that includes the things you don't see in the pictures yet (Projector, Chairs, Carpet, Screen)


Edited by damelon - 11/26/12 at 12:07pm
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post #758 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:51am
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Cost Breakdown:

Keep in mind that some of these things are slightly rounded (Like the projector and my polish labor costs) since I either have not paid for them yet, or their work was on a per-week basis and they were doing work outside of the movie room in addition to the work on the room itself. So I could be off by about $1,000 total in this whole thing.
 

 

Category Description Location Cost  
Chairs 7 Berkline Reno Seats.   Power, Black Full Leather Interiormark/TheaterSeatStore 3,983.36 http://www.theaterseatstore.com/berkline-12003-reno?sc=9&category=148
Equipment Onkyo PR-SC5508 Pre-Amp Ebay 1,600.00  
Equipment Sony VPL-VW95ES AVScience 5,700.00  
Equipment Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray Player AVScience 500.00 http://shop.avscience.com/Oppo-BDP-93-Universal-Network-3D-Blu-ray-Player_p_332.html
Equipment Axiom Audio M80 v3 Tower Speaker Axiom Audio 690.00 www.axiomaudio.com
Equipment Monster 3D Glasses (x4) and Emitter Amazon 21.60  
Equipment Middle Atlantic Rack Plexi Door Ebay 80.00  
Equipment 50' XLR Cable (Subwoofer) x2 B&H Photo and Video 51.00 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574251-REG/Pearstone_C24136_50_3_Pin_XLR_Male_to.html
Equipment Middle Atlantic Rack - ERG2428 B&H Photo and Video 377.50 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747508-REG/Middle_Atlantic_EGR_2428LRD_AV_Enclosure_Less_Rear.html
Equipment Middle Atlantic Rack - Rear Door B&H Photo and Video 114.50 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/747559-REG/Middle_Atlantic_EGR_RDC24_Cable_Entry_Rear_Door.html
Equipment Trigger Cables for Subs & Amplifier Cables to Go 68.19 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=2002&sku=40623&st=40623 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=2002&sku=40619&st=40619
Equipment SMX 130" wide 2.35:1 Screen SMX Theater Solutions 1,500.00 www.smxscreen.com
Equipment Speaker Wire & Banana Plugs Monoprice 114.53 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=3844&seq=1&format=2 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2801&seq=1&format=2
Equipment  HDMI Cables - 24AWG Tartan Blue Jeans Cable 63.45 http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/hdmi-cable.htm
Equipment Total     10,880.77  
Labor General Contractors (Framing/Drywall) Alec/Peter 3,000.00  
Labor Specialty Contractor BIGMouthInDC 7,505.00  
Labor Total     10,505.50  
Materials 74 sheets of 5/8" Drywall Captiol Building Supply 666.00 http://cbsigms.com/default.htm
Materials 2 Bags Unfaced R-13 Capitol Building Supply 91.48 http://cbsigms.com/default.htm
Materials 4 Bags Faced R-13 Capitol Building Supply 195.93 http://cbsigms.com/default.htm
Materials 3 Bags Faced R-19 Capitol Building Supply 168.00 http://cbsigms.com/default.htm
Materials Assorted Lowes 1,068.58 www.lowes.com
Materials Riser Step Lights CSN Stores 23.61 http://www.wayfair.com/show_detail.php?sku=RYP2559&refid=&
Materials Assorted Lowes 157.19 www.lowes.com
Materials Assorted Home Depot 23.07 www.homedepot.com
Materials Assorted Home Depot 5.03 www.homedepot.com
Materials Assorted Home Depot 96.45 www.homedepot.com
Materials GOM Fabric (20 Yards Red, 30 Yards Black) Fabricmate 822.50 http://www.fabricmatestore.com/p-9-fr701-panel-fabric.aspx
Materials Midlite Power Inlet Amazon 38.60 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KF3WA8
Materials Assorted Lowes 18.14 www.lowes.com
Materials Red Rope Light 1000 Bulbs 145.13 http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/2057/SIV-IU65R.html
Materials Assorted Home Depot 113.40 www.homedepot.com
Materials Assorted Home Depot 36.24 www.homedepot.com
Materials Assorted Lowes 17.46 www.lowes.com
Materials Assorted Lowes 40.83 www.lowes.com
Materials Assorted Home Depot 38.26 www.homedepot.com
Materials Shelving (Unrelated) Lowes -300.00 Shelving
Materials Assorted Lowes 44.80  
Materials Assorted Lowes 252.32  
Materials Assorted Lowes 194.21  
Materials Carpet Lowes 1,661.66  
Materials Doors & Casings Accent Millwork 388.00  
Materials Screenwall Fingerjoined Pine Home Depot 108.43  
Materials Plywood for Panels Home Depot 205.42  
Materials Wood Door Thresholds   21.74  
Materials Rubber Door Seals Harbor City Hardware 42.50  
Materials Black Pipe for Columns & PVC Moulding Home Depot 138.10  
Materials MDF for Columns Home Depot 82.60  
Materials More PVC Moulding Home Depot 16.48  
Materials Wall panel bump out, silicon Glue, Screws Home Depot 38.93  
Materials Plywood for Soffit and Fabric Frames Home Depot 103.07  
Materials Sanding and Painting Supplies Home Depot 37.02  
Materials MDF, glue, shims, sandpaper, sealer, for soffit and light tray Home Depot 245.60  
Materials Metal HVAC Box (Equip Room) Jeff Parkinson 11.51  
Materials HVAC Foil Tape Jeff Parkinson 6.58  
Materials Emtek Doorknob Doorknob Discount Center 86.97 http://www.doorknobdiscountcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DDC&Product_Code=EM5107BA
Materials Assorted Lowes 12.00  
Materials Assorted Lowes 20.03  
Materials Assorted Lowes 48.23  
Materials Assorted Lowes 54.54  
Materials Assorted Home Depot 45.63  
Materials Assorted Lowes 88.00  
Materials 4 Leviton RF Dimmers Smarthome 266.52 http://www.smarthome.com/45071Z.html
Materials 4 Black Face Kit for Leviton Dimmers Smarthome 7.48 http://www.smarthome.com/86558BK.html
Materials Recessed Lighting Lowes 278.92  
Materials Door Hinges Hardware Source 117.71 http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/SPECIALTY+HINGES/Heavy+Duty+Hinges/Heavy+Duty+Door+Hinges/Wide+Throw+Butt+Hinge%2C++Steel
Materials Insul Knife & Sharpener ASI Storefront 44.50  
Materials Total     8,135.40  
Returns Assorted Lowes -73.37 www.lowes.com
Returns Assorted Lowes -18.14  
Returns Leftover whisper clips & Caulk Ted White/Soundproofingcompany.com -215.42  
Returns Sold Integra DTC-9.8 Ebay -570.00  
      -876.93  
SoundProofing Acoustical Treatment Plan Bryan Pape 595.00  
SoundProofing Cotton and OC703 Bryan Pape 1,838.58  
SoundProofing Whisper Clips, Greem Glue, & Accoustical Caulk Ted White/Soundproofingcompany.com 1,614.10  
      4,047.68  
         
Grand Total     36,425.28  

Edited by damelon - 10/4/12 at 7:48am
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post #759 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:53am
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

Hold your breath.

Grand Total: $37,814.77

And that includes the things you don't see in the pictures yet (Projector, Chairs, Carpet, Screen)

Imagine what it would have cost if you would have had the entire thing contracted out!
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post #760 of 1832
10/28/11 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by stockmonkey2000 View Post

I'm with you Logan - I think I'm going to avoid this also.

Admit to yourself how much you have spent?! Never!!



Where would this insanity end?! Next thing you know you'll be saying you want to share that info with your wife, too.

Physician, heal thyself!!
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post #761 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:02am
I was a little scared when I saw your total but feel better that nearly 18k of that is labor, PJ and screen.
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post #762 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:03am
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Where would this insanity end?! Next thing you know you'll be saying you want to share that info with your wife, too.

Physician, heal thyself!!

Actually, the wife paid for the General Contract labor (Not BIGmouthinDC) and the Sony Projector, plus she makes more money than I do, but I don't think she has seen the grand total, nor does she want to.
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post #763 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:04am
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I was a little scared when I saw your total but feel better that nearly 18k of that is labor, PJ and screen.

Yeah the Labor, Projector, Chairs alone are half the cost. That's why I wanted to provide a cost breakdown. So people knew where the money goes. The materials aren't that expensive, and if you did it completely on your own, BUILDING a theater isn't that bad. It's once you start filling it with things that it gets pricy!

Plus I was fortunate to already have a good 7.2 speaker system, the Sunfire Amp to power it, a 18TB HTPC I had built a couple of years ago, and things like rack shelving from my previous theaters, the harmony remotes, a previous integra pre-amp that I sold to help pay for a new one, etc. So didn't have to buy them this time around.
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post #764 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:11am
Looks pretty good. Thanks for the cost summary. It's hard getting into a project with a realistic idea of cost.

I assume there is some equipment that you already own that is not on the list?

edit: to slow. answered above!
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post #765 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:12am
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I should also note that all of my initial materials estimates (Like GOM) were very good. We used the entire roll of black gom (30 yards), every piece of drywall, all of the insulation, etc.

Where the estimates were a little high were on the soundproofing end. I have an extra 5 piece of OC703 leftover, about 1 2/3 boxes of 1" cotton left over, 1/2 box of 2" cotton left over, about 40 DC-04 clips left over. I had about 50 whisper clips left over but I was able to return them. I probably have 5-8 yards of Red Gom left over (purchased 20) - All of the above are available to be purchased from me at a discount btw. Inquire with a PM if interested.
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post #766 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:16am
Given the fact that you finished in under 4 months, the labor costs were well spent. Your room kills a lot of the $100k theaters that you see posted here (CEPro) that were done by installers.
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post #767 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:22am
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Actually, the wife paid for the General Contract labor (Not BIGmouthinDC) and the Sony Projector, plus she makes more money than I do, but I don't think she has seen the grand total, nor does she want to.

Sounds like a very intelligent woman. On some topics, ignorance is bliss.

Thanks for posting the detailed cost breakdown. I don't remember seeing many folks do this and it's very illuminating.

The room is just gorgeous -- you guys did beautiful work. I can't wait to see photos with the carpet and chairs in place!
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post #768 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by stockmonkey2000 View Post

Given the fact that you finished in under 4 months, the labor costs were well spent. Your room kills a lot of the $100k theaters that you see posted here (CEPro) that were done by installers.

Thank you for the complement!

Well I have to credit BIG for a lot of that great work, and SMX/Sandman/Ruben for having a lot of the great design ideas. Considering we mostly worked on weekends, and it took just over 3 months... I am very happy with the outcome.
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post #769 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:27am
Nice recordkeeping and full disclosure! I have all my receipts saved up too, but I'm not sure if I ever want to actually add them up, given the fact that the stack of receipts from trips to Lowes and Home Depot alone is about an inch thick.

I keep telling my wife we're on track on the budget when she asks - trouble is I have no idea what the budget is.
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post #770 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:30am
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Sounds like a very intelligent woman. On some topics, ignorance is bliss.

Thanks for posting the detailed cost breakdown. I don't remember seeing many folks do this and it's very illuminating.

The room is just gorgeous -- you guys did beautiful work. I can't wait to see photos with the carpet and chairs in place!

Yeah I know that a lot of people are curious about how many labor hours I used, and how much a theater costs, so it's very useful information. Just like the ability to provide good detailed photos and exact measurements used. I know I read Ruben's thread over and over again to get good estimates of how the sizes of things in his room were compared to other things (Soffit, Columns, Panels, etc).. so because I know what I was curious about when reading other threads, I wanted to provide as much as I could during the build. I wish I took more "How-To" Photos for all of you, but a lot of the times BIG and I would be doing something and there were no free hands to take pictures with.

As far as the final photos... I am dying to take them! It's hard to feel like I'm done and have the room -NOT- done. Until the carpet shows up and the projector/screen are mounted, I'm not going to have that feeling of satisfaction. Plus it is hard to just have to wait for these things to show up and not be able to do anything about it. At least Mark says my Sony will arrive and ship next week! Carpet one week after that!
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post #771 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:32am
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Nice recordkeeping and full disclosure! I have all my receipts saved up too, but I'm not sure if I ever want to actually add them up, given the fact that the stack of receipts from trips to Lowes and Home Depot alone is about an inch thick.

I stayed inside of what I was hoping for as far as "Construction Budget". Then the wife and I just decided that we should put optimal seating and projector too which just pushed the costs over the $30k threshold I was gunning for. Probably would have still been about $3-4k over my estimated budget if we skimped, but why should we on a project like this?

Yeah I collected and kept all of the receipts. So I could actually take all of those "Materials / Assorted / Home Depot" entries in the above breakdown and actually say things like "Screws, 2x4s, Wire, etc) but I'm not going to do that.
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post #772 of 1832
10/28/11 at 8:42am
Wow that is some total. Like Brad I am afraid to actually add up all my receipts. I have a shoe box FULL of receipts so I can only assume the total cost would be difficult to stomach.
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post #773 of 1832
10/28/11 at 9:17am
D,

Can I ask a question re: ur screen choice. What made u finally decide on 2:35 vs 2:37 or another. I was just wondering. I don't have opinion. Just a question.

Thanks, jim
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10/28/11 at 10:20am
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D,

Can I ask a question re: ur screen choice. What made u finally decide on 2:35 vs 2:37 or another. I was just wondering. I don't have opinion. Just a question.

Thanks, jim

I really didn't think about it much to be honest. 2:35 is sort of the standard that the websites list, so I just asked for it. A lot of people seem to go 2:37 so they have a nice halfway point between 2:35 and 2:40 material, but I just didn't bother with it.
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post #775 of 1832
10/28/11 at 10:34am
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Oops! BIG noticed a typo I had. One of my materials was listed as 1,151 and should have been 11.51. That changes the total! yay!
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post #776 of 1832
10/28/11 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

Hold your breath.

Grand Total: $36,625.28

And that includes the things you don't see in the pictures yet (Projector, Chairs, Carpet, Screen)

That sounds about right for the quality of construction that you did. That's quite the fee for expert advice, but then I never anticipated that Jeff was cheap!

That said, 105 days is sure one of the quickest that I've seen!
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post #777 of 1832
10/28/11 at 11:18am
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...if we skimped, but why should we on a project like this?

Very well said! When I was getting cheap, Cathan would remind me that a few extra dollars over the total cost of the project was worth it in the end. Sometimes I thought he was setting up a co-dependent relationship with me ('cause he wanted to believe the same thing and wanted me to convince him too). In the end, he was 100% right. What's $3-4k over a $30-40k project? (and yes, I do realize this is a huge sum for some folks, and that I'm blessed to be able to even make this decision in the first place).
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10/28/11 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by carboranadum View Post

That sounds about right for the quality of construction that you did. That's quite the fee for expert advice, but then I never anticipated that Jeff was cheap!

That said, 105 days is sure one of the quickest that I've seen!

Not just advice, in fact mostly work. BIG is an excellent resource. You can tell directly by the photos plus the number of days it took how much of an asset he was.
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post #779 of 1832
10/28/11 at 11:21am
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What's $3-4k over a $30-40k project? (and yes, I do realize this is a huge sum for some folks, and that I'm blessed to be able to even make this decision in the first place).

No kidding... even looking at that total makes me shed a tear or two. That's a big sum for anyone. (Bill Gates aside) To even think about putting that much money into just one room does make you count your blessings.
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post #780 of 1832
10/28/11 at 11:59am
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No kidding... even looking at that total makes me shed a tear or two. That's a big sum for anyone. (Bill Gates aside) To even think about putting that much money into just one room does make you count your blessings.

This is true, but i was talking about and showing your room to my wife. We look at it this way:

every room needs carpet, trim, dry wall and lights and furniture ect. It could be argued that a "regular" living room could have more furniture in it costing far more then what you budgeted. If you take some of those costs that would have been spent regardless, it makes it even more attractive.

People spend on different things. My neighbor has a $65000 boat that he can't afford, makes payments on, and used twice this summer. A vacation for a family of 4 can cost upwards of 10 grand... It's all about perspective.

Thanks again for posting up your $$$ list. You are going to have a fantastic space to show for it.
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