The Official Onkyo TX-NR1009 Thread - Page 8

Hi, I've got a really basic question-- I can't seem to make heads or tails of the manual. What settings do I need if I just want to pass through the encoded Dolby Digital signals (in all forms)? I have a 5.1 set up. Thanks

Got my 1009 today pretty much all wired up gonna run audyssey in a few, would birds chirping outside cause bad calibration? Also was wondering What side does most of the heat come from?? I have fans I used for my 876 that I want to use on this and was wondering which side to put the temp sensor as well. Thanks

I would get it as quite as possible but I'm not sure I would worry too much about birds outside. Also from the top, the heat comes from the right mid back, I think this is where the amps are located.

awesome this thing runs so cool compared to the 876. When I have the fans going its running at just under 27C.. thats only 4C above room temp. With the 876 I think it was running in between 40-50C and would pretty much heat up the room lol. I think without the fans and heat deflector I have setup it would run in the mid or low 30s.

I recent did audyssey setup and posted this in the audyssey thread but just wanted to compare some settings I got after doing the setup with owners of the 1009. Here is what I posted in that thread..

Hey guys, just got my onkyo 1009 to replace a defective 876. Recently did Audyssey setup and had a few questions.

When I place mic in different positions where should I place them.. for the first spot i put it in the center of the room, second i put it main listening area and third spot i put it on the other sofa listening area thats kind of off to the side and not in front of the center speaker. not sure if that was correct thing to do or not.

My current 7.1 setup is..
Fronts Klipsch RF82
Center Klipsch RC62
Surrounds Klipsch RS52
Rear Surrounds RF15
Subwoofer SVS PB13 Ultra

In the future I want to add some Klipsch RB61 bookshelf speakers for front highs.

Here are some of my results and how I have it setup..

Front Full Band
Center 50Hz
Surround 70Hz
Surround Back 50Hz
Surround Back 2Ch
LPF of LFE 120Hz
Double Bass on
Subwoofer Phase 0

Speaker Distance

Left 6.5
Center 6
Right 6.5
Surround Right 10
Surround Back Right 8.5
Surround Back Left 8
Surround Left 7
Sub 9

Level Calibration
Left -9.5dB
Center -12.0dB
Right -11.5dB
Surround Right -9.0dB
Surround Back Right -5.5dB
Surround Back Left -6.5dB
Surround Left -9.5dB
Sub +7.5dB

for the sub I think I bumped it up in the other menu.

Seems to me that the level calibration is quite high? not sure what could cause this. Any help would be great, Thanks

The first position is the most important. Place mic where you sit the most first then move mic toward other seating areas while taking other measurements in between, using up all the measurements. Better if you do not duplicate a measurement. You wont be dissappointed. Keep mic a min. of 1ft. away from walls and try to secure it on a tripod if possible.Do not stand in between mic and speaker during calibration. The result should be a noticeable improvement toward a seamless soundstage! Good Luck.

I'm about to pull the trigger on the 1009 for what I believe to be a pretty darn good price. It would be replacing my Onkyo 805 that I absolutely love to death, it's honestly the best sounding receiver I have ever owned. I'm scared that I will be disappointed in the 1009. What do you all think?

One thing that has prompted the upgrade is that I just purchased a 3D projector (Epson 5010) and my beloved 805 will not pass the HDMI 1.4 from my PS3 through to the Epson 5010 to allow 3D playback. I had read that it would and now tonight I'm reading that it will not.

I just want to verify that the 1009 will allow passage of the 3d/HDMI 1.4 spec through it to my projector, correct?

Thanks for any and all help!

Mike

I have two 805's. That's how much I liked the 805. I replaced them with the 1009 for the same reason you are, wanted the 3D pass through, in addition to the 2 HDMI outs to feed my non 3D plasma and my 3D capable projector. Works Great. I am also now running an 11.2 speaker setup, although only 9.2 can run at a time. Sounds just as good if not better. They both have audyssey multeq xt but is sure seems that the 1009's balances the sound better, especially in the subs. Can't explain it but it does seem smoother. Not that the 805 was bad mind you.

I bought my 1009 a couple months ago for a not too bad a price and I don't regret it for a minute. The 805 is a great receiver but I like the 1009 better. Buy it, you won't regret it either.

I do have two 805's that I would like to sell if anyone is interested.

Still enjoying my 1009 check out the new 1010 model with even more (none applified) channels.

Engadget Story

11.4 DTS Neo:X surround sound
Edited by Wesley Hester - 7/1/12 at 10:13am

Only 7 amplified channels for the 1010!?! Not sorry I didn't wait. The 3010 and 5010 look awesome, but the prices sure don't.

Thanks for that link.

Walternate

Thanks so much for your feedback on your experiences coming from the 805 to the 1009...that eases my mind quite a bit. I ordered it last night and hopefully it will be here sometime by the end of next week (I'm Military stationed overseas in Germany). I don't think I have any plans to sell my 805, not until I'm stateside again (well, if that ever happens anytime soon).

Yeah I'm glad I picked up the 1009 when I did too. Only wish it had MultEQ XT32.

Though the 10xx series seems to be a strange fit between the models above or below it. Don't you think?

What do you want for your 805? I'm interested in replacing my 805. I have had the 805 for 4 years but, for the last year when I turn it on there is no sound for about 3 minutes. It has never took any longer. I'm sure it is a loose soilder joint that does not work until there is heat in it.. I use it everyday and it does suck to wait.

Regarding heat/fan issues in posts #73-87:
I bought the coolerguys usb fan as recommended for my 1009. I had a 1007 that had some heat/HDMI board issues which finally died a month ago. In using the usb fan I learned 2 things:
1. If you "pull" air up from the top of the 1009, it competes with the down blowing fans in the botom. My 1009 overheated and the sound kicked off multiple times before I realized this. Removing the fan resolved the problem.
2. The USB fan (and the rear USB port on the 1009) is on all the time. It is not switched with the power state of the receiver (unfortunately).
For the time being, I am running my 1009 without an external fan (I have plenty of headroom). Thought this might be of use to others with heat concerns and the 1009.
B

1) That is good to know and how did you over heat it? I'm not sure I ever seen the bottom fans kick on, on my receiver. Are they obvious when they kick on noise wise?

2) The USB port on the back of the 1009 is NOT on at all times (at least with my stand by set to off, maybe that's the problem)? The fan will kick off maybe 30 sec. after the receiver is shut off.

I have checked the temps with fans on the top blowing in & pulling the air out. The unit runs cooler with the fans pulling the air out. You can check it by touching the the display standby buttons & then tone. You will see the temp.

Good tip, thanks!

hmmm.... Just tried this and it didn't work? I held down the display then the standby buttons, then I touched the tone button and it only said "1080i" on the display or something like that, no temp? What am I doing wrong?

If your room is quiet you would hear them. They kick on when I push the receiver to work a little bit for some time. After I turn the volume down I can then hear them spinning, and they seem to stop relatively quickly afterward.

Press the display first & while pressing it press the standby so you are holding both at the same time(it takes two hands) then let go of both & press the tone.

Got ya, I was pressing holding the display and standby with one hand and then pressing the tone. Not letting go of the display and standby. Will try this... thanks!

hmmm... still nothing.. I must be doing something wrong?

Press the display button and then the standby button, then let go display and standby buttons quickly, and then press the tone button... If too slow no go...

Got it! Thanks

I guess the "T:" is the temp in Celsius? Do you know what the "V:" and the "F:" is for?

I am not sure but I think the F is for fan & the V might be voltage.

If you do the same proceedure but press setup instead of tone the temp will be in Fahrenheit & you will also see how many hours the avr has run.

I will have to check again but the external USB fan I'm using cuts off with the receiver. Do you have HDMI2 pass through or whatever it's called allowing access to the HDMI2 output from another HDTV? It's one of the features I wanted with the 1009 but don't use too much because it requires more power even when the receiver is in standby. Also, more heat can be felt on the top of the receiver in standby with this feature on and may or may not keep the USB port powered also.

Update

THIS POST FOR: benichols with the 1009 and external USB fan. Post #223

Update: I was finally able to confirm this evening that my USB connected fan does in fact shut down when the 1009 is "cut off" into standby mode.
Edited by Wesley Hester - 7/5/12 at 7:43pm

I do not have the HDMI pass through enabled. I have a 709 & a 3009. I use a Belkin surge protector that will turn the fan off & on with the receiver.

Firmware update !

http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/firmware/tx-nr1009.html

Thank you for the heads up.

Improves the operation when HDMI Through is set to on - wow just talking about this above.

Stabilizes the operation of Network Control - no clue.

Corrects the video output when the Picture Mode is set to Through - I use Through pretty exclusively, really would be nice to know what this is about.

Got my 1009 yesterday. Some things that I immediately disliked:

1) The faceplate on the 1009 doesn't snap/click into place like it did on my 805 (it just kinda sits there on my 1009)...yes, this is being very petty

2) I miss the blue lighting around the volume dial (the 1009 has white'ish)

Sound performance seems about the same to me thus far (have only fired up a couple movies though) but have not set up Audyssey as of yet though...

Gonna apply the latest firmware update here in a few....

Overall I like it....it completes my 3D setup....got it for a good price...just does not "seem" as high-end as the 805. Or maybe I'm just getting old
Edited by mikethewxguy - 7/8/12 at 1:32am

I ran the firmware update last night via network, didn't take anywhere near 60 minutes this time. More like 5 maybe 10 tops. I was hoping the fix they noted with HDMI Through mode would stop the issue I have when my TiVO flips between 720p and 1080i depending on the channel. The Onkyo video proc in any mode but direct gets confused (not all the time) and I get a pink screen or snow until I change channels. Oh well maybe the next fix, though the issue could just as easilly be on the TiVo end I'd think.

Does anyone know if the Onkyo audio proc sends the LFE (.1) of DTS or Dolby to the front speakers if they are set for full range and no subwoofer. I have it set this way and watching a Bourne movie last night I felt like something was missing in the low end. I'll have to sort through my calibration discs and see if I can figure it out from test tones. My front speakers have built in powered subs and I'd like not to run the seperate RCA wires to the speaker inputs but I'll have to if the Onkyo doesn't route the LFE properly, seems some receivers do and some don't.