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post #121 of 1747
Thread Starter 
I'm wondering if LG is coming out with another set of glasses by the end of the year. There has to be a set out there that can sync with this tv.
post #122 of 1747
Considering LG's sets are all passive now, if they come out with any new glasses, chances are they will be passive as well.

That being said, why not try the XpanD Universal Glasses? Yes, they're pricier, but they're supposedly universal and so should work with any 3D TV. It's a gamble for sure though.
post #123 of 1747
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Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg View Post

I'm wondering if LG is coming out with another set of glasses by the end of the year. There has to be a set out there that can sync with this tv.

Why would anyone think that the LG engineers don't have the expertise to disable the 3D functionality, since this was clearly their intent with the 2D-only 55LW9500?

And why would anyone think that the 55LV9500, which was designed to be a 2D-only model, would ship with 3D hardware?




-nony
post #124 of 1747
One of the guys from SD received his, here is his comments, he will provide more info when he gets to play with it more this weekend. Mine shipped yesterday, so hopefully I will get it late next week.

"Just wanted to let everyone know I got my set delivered this afternoon and got everything installed and setup..overall I think this was a great deal on this caliber of tv...looks fantastic...tv is loaded with everything but the kitchen sink..couldn't get the media ink app to work with the plex server running on my iMac so I'm gonna have to look into that..picture quality is superb oob but using the picture wizard I was able to tweak it to improve the quality even more..I have noticed very minimal light bleeding from the edges on letterbox/dark scenes..not really enough to knock any points off for but it is there..similar to the same issue had on my iPad so I guess it is due to the nature of the ips panel...will update later this weekend when I have had a chance to play some more."
post #125 of 1747
I guess my curiousity about 3D being activated is just that, curiousity. However, it was posted above that the set is putting out 3D images, it's just that he can't get a pair of 3D glasses to sync. In looking at that LG technical 3D troubleshoot guide posted in this thread, it does say that the motion remote and 3D share the same chip/board/whatever. So, maybe they have just somehow disabled the sync? I am a noob, so I have no clue.

I did note one thing in that troubleshoot guide, it said

"Don’t forget to try swapping the L/R selection by pressing the
“Quick Menu” button on the remote control."

if you having an issue with viewing 3D. Maybe give that a try?

And on a side note, why does LG have both passive and shutter 3D sets?
post #126 of 1747
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Originally Posted by orangedawg View Post

And on a side note, why does LG have both passive and shutter 3D sets?

That's because they were originally designed as active 3D sets, however, right before their release, LG and Samsung got into a little spat. In a nutshell, Samsung bad mouthed passive 3D technology along with LG themselves. Later Samsung apologized (and LG forgave them), but it seems LG really took offense to this and actually cancelled all of their active 3D sets in favor of redesigning them as passive 3D. They had already started producing active 3D panels for the LW9500 series and a limited few were released in Taiwan and I think a few made it to the U.S. as well. The new passive 3D model lineup was then labelled the LW9800 series.

IMO, the LV9500 sets are designed from the panels that were already produced before LG cancelled the LW9500 and retooled it for passive 3D. This would explain the fact that they are Nano backlit sets and still have some remnants of active 3D technology enabled.
post #127 of 1747
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

Why would anyone think that the LG engineers don't have the expertise to disable the 3D functionality, since this was clearly their intent with the 2D-only 55LW9500?

And why would anyone think that the 55LV9500, which was designed to be a 2D-only model, would ship with 3D hardware?




-nony

No one said anything about LG's expertise and it is clear that it wasn't designed to be 2D only. If that was the case this guy wouldn't be getting a 3D image and 3D menu. Now I ask a question back at you. Why does Samsung do this every year(disable features)? I think Cinema Smooth is a pretty big deal to disable and paying a crap load more for it. People are paying for the lesser models and getting the same television by enabling it. LG can be doing the same thing with 3D on these particular models.
Look, everyone is just curious. And it would be neat if it worked. We just want all the possibilities explored, that's all. If it doesn't work........fine. We all bought it thinking it was 2D only. It would just be an even bigger bargain if it was 3D also. Then we can tell everybody what an even bigger deal we got.
post #128 of 1747
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Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg View Post
No one said anything about LG's expertise and it is clear that it wasn't designed to be 2D only. If that was the case this guy wouldn't be getting a 3D image and 3D menu. Now I ask a question back at you. Why does Samsung do this every year(disable features)? I think Cinema Smooth is a pretty big deal to disable and paying a crap load more for it. People are paying for the lesser models and getting the same television by enabling it. LG can be doing the same thing with 3D on these particular models.
Look, everyone is just curious. And it would be neat if it worked. We just want all the possibilities explored, that's all. If it doesn't work........fine. We all bought it thinking it was 2D only. It would just be an even bigger bargain if it was 3D also. Then we can tell everybody what an even bigger deal we got.
If it was a perfect world, that set would be 2D only. The panels were most likely throwbacks from a set that WAS designed to be 3D (the LW9500). The panel was designed to be ACTIVE 3D, but then after LG decided to take a U-turn on their plans, they CANCELLED all the active 3D sets and stated that they are ONLY releasing PASSIVE this year. It's not that they disabled a bunch of features for the fun of it. They disabled it to comply with their mandate that they will ONLY be releasing PASSIVE 3D this year... period. But if the panel is already produced, it's more cost effective to try to disable and hide the functionality than to pay more money to completely rebuild it as a 2D only panel. I guess the whole point is that if LG had the ability to, there would be ZERO 3D options on that TV whatsoever.

That being said, LG isn't going to make it easy for you to get 3D on a TV they want to be 2D only. They aren't going to tell you if the emitter works. They aren't going to magically release glasses for it. As far as LG is concerned, Active 3D is dead to them. If you get it to work, all the more power to you.
post #129 of 1747
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Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg View Post

No one said anything about LG's expertise and it is clear that it wasn't designed to be 2D only. If that was the case this guy wouldn't be getting a 3D image and 3D menu. Now I ask a question back at you. Why does Samsung do this every year(disable features)? I think Cinema Smooth is a pretty big deal to disable and paying a crap load more for it. People are paying for the lesser models and getting the same television by enabling it. LG can be doing the same thing with 3D on these particular models.
Look, everyone is just curious. And it would be neat if it worked. We just want all the possibilities explored, that's all. If it doesn't work........fine. We all bought it thinking it was 2D only. It would just be an even bigger bargain if it was 3D also. Then we can tell everybody what an even bigger deal we got.

You missed my point. If LG deliberately disabled the 3D functionality on the 55LW9500, then your suggestion that other models of 3D glasses might work makes no sense. I believe that once the emitter can be enabled via a configuration change, the AG-S250 glasses will work just fine.

Until it can be confirmed that the 55LV9500 ships with the identical hardware configuration of the 55LW9500, there is no reason to believe that it supports 3D, as the 55LV9500 was designed to be a 2D variant of the 55LW9500. We will know for sure when p5browne reports back.

-nony
post #130 of 1747
The units were made in July 2011, long after the 55LW9500 disappeared, and Passive 3D is now the norm with LG. If these actually have 3D, will have to peruse the Service Manual this weekend and see if any of the circuits are designated for 3D. One question was answered, as to whether W or Y, the photo on Slick Deals shows these as being Y.

Check photos:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...3162418&page=7
post #131 of 1747
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

The units were made in July 2011, long after the 55LW9500 disappeared, and Passive 3D is now the norm with LG. If these actually have 3D, will have to peruse the Service Manual this weekend and see if any of the circuits are designated for 3D. One question was answered, as to whether W or Y, the photo on Slick Deals shows these as being Y.

Check photos:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...3162418&page=7

p5browne,

Please provide us with the LCM part numbers for all three production runs of the 55LV9500-UA and the single production run of the 55LW9500-UA.

55LV9500-UA.AUSYLHR
55LV9500-UA.AUSWLHR
55LV9500-UA.AUSYLJR

55LW9500-UA.AUSYLHR

From techassist, click on [Exploded View], enter the model, click on Location 200.

tia,
-nony
post #132 of 1747
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

The units were made in July 2011, long after the 55LW9500 disappeared, and Passive 3D is now the norm with LG. If these actually have 3D, will have to peruse the Service Manual this weekend and see if any of the circuits are designated for 3D. One question was answered, as to whether W or Y, the photo on Slick Deals shows these as being Y.

Check photos:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...3162418&page=7

What's the difference between W and Y?
post #133 of 1747
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

p5browne,

Please provide us with the LCM part numbers for all three production runs of the 55LV9500-UA and the single production run of the 55LW9500-UA.

55LV9500-UA.AUSYLHR
55LV9500-UA.AUSWLHR
55LV9500-UA.AUSYLJR

55LW9500-UA.AUSYLHR

From techassist, click on [Exploded View], enter the model, click on Location 200.

tia,
-nony

This format is used for LGE internal members! Do not have an ASC Acct #. Will show exploded views, but won't let me enter in a Location #

Nony will have to tell you the differences between the W and Y.

LG 55LV9500 has disappeared off of both US and Canadian LG websites.

Please check out this CNET website - 3D is Passive!

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-34468423.html

Note 5 Star Rating!
post #134 of 1747
Someone on SD posted pics. The model is 55LV9500-UA. However, looka the the FCC number. It is BJ55LW9500UA. Does that mean that these are LW sets? If anyone knows, please comment. I am a noob how knows nothing about LG sets, just saw this deal on SD and am in market for a 3D set.

Also, anyone try passive glasses yet? I note someone indicated that this is not passive, and they would know that more than I, but I saw this posting from March 21, 2011 on the internet:

"LG introduced for the first time its LW9500 3D Smart TV at CES this year, and has announced that this 3D TV with cinema like passive 3D glasses will be available in Korea in a few days."

http://en.akihabaranews.com/88657/ho...lable-in-korea
post #135 of 1747
OKay, another comment. I guess I am being a pain, but in looking at the owner's manual on-line, page 13 (go to LG site, search for 55LW9500), it lists the 3D glasses needed: "Supports for LW7700, LW9500, LZ9700, PZ750, PZ950, PZ950U series." It then lists these glasses: AG-S230, AG-S250, AG-S270. If you search for those glasses on LG's site, the only thing that comes up is for the S250, which does not list the 55LW9500 as one of the compatible models. Curious. Of course, this is all moot if this is not the 55LW9500. I'm just trying to supply as much info on this set that I can to perhaps answer (or ask even more!) questions.
post #136 of 1747
Notes: 55LW9500 and 55LV9500 Look to have the Exact same Service Manuals.
(Did not go into real fine details, but they look identical.)
Woofer has it's own IC chip.
55LW9500-NA - ALEF - Local Dimming - No THX
55LW9500-UA - ALEF/IOP/LED - Local Dimming - THX
In Service Manual for 55LW9500 no glasses shown
In Service Manual for 55LV9500 Glasses shown (?)
No service Manual for 55LW9800 Available Yet.
Suggestions: Do not do the FW upgrade in case the new FW just may totally disable 3D if it's actually there, and not already disabled!? Let us check first.
Quick test: After Enabling the 3D. (In the Service Menu with either the Service Remote, or RS232 PC Connection)
Anyone with a DirecTV receiver could try putting on the 3D Channals and see if DirecTV detects this TV as being 3D. If Not, then you may now want to try the FW Upgrade after we check first.
post #137 of 1747
I got the TV on Friday and love it but would like to try and make it 3D. How did you even get to that option? I have looked everywhere with no luck

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Originally Posted by arkasi55 View Post

nony, I think it is the same screen as our LW9500 here in Oz.
I posted some pics in the LG 2011 lineup thread, but have owned the screen now for about a month and am very happy so far.
Local dimming, some minor blooming in really high contrast areas (like the letterboxes) but nothing too distracting. No clouding, banding etc that i've seen so far.



I've been able to use the EZ setup and Install menus to renable the THX presets, PVR function (which is enabled here in Oz anyway) and the 3D settings. Unfortunately it doesn't look like enabling the 3D does anything, besides getting the 3D menu options (SBS, 2D->3D etc) only 3D source I have is ESPN 3D which is SBS and it had no effect. Doing 2D->3D only brightened the picture. Oh wells
post #138 of 1747
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Will show exploded views, but won't let me enter in a Location

Correct. You cannot enter a location value in the left pane.

The left pane will populate when you click on any and all component numbers in the right pane.

-nony
post #139 of 1747
Has anyone received confirmation that their unit has shipped? I've seen a few other non-AVS forum posts saying they have, some actually with units in hand.

I'm still waiting for mine...
post #140 of 1747
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Originally Posted by Tim Hess View Post

Has anyone received confirmation that their unit has shipped? I've seen a few other non-AVS forum posts saying they have, some actually with units in hand.

I'm still waiting for mine...

I have yet to see them even bill my credit card.
post #141 of 1747
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Originally Posted by Tim Hess View Post

Has anyone received confirmation that their unit has shipped? I've seen a few other non-AVS forum posts saying they have, some actually with units in hand.

I'm still waiting for mine...


Mine says shipped on Friday, I ordered mine when around 4800 were sold.
post #142 of 1747
Quote:
Originally Posted by nony View Post

Correct. You cannot enter a location value in the left pane.

The left pane will populate when you click on any and all component numbers in the right pane.

-nony

AFB73130512 - LCD Assembly LCM - 55LW9500-UA - KCCYLJR
Same info for both.

55LW9800 - No Data Found
post #143 of 1747
Quote:
Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

AFB73130512 - LCD Assembly LCM - 55LW9500-UA - KCCYLJR
Same info for both.

55LW9800 - No Data Found

55LV9500-UA.AUSYLHR p/n:
55LV9500-UA.AUSWLHR p/n:
55LV9500-UA.AUSYLJR p/n:

55LW9500-UA.AUSYLHR p/n:

Please capture and fill in the part numbers for all of the above items and do the same for the main board (Location 540), and TCon/3D board (Location 541) and we will be able to draw some definitive conclusions.

-nony
post #144 of 1747
Quote:
Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Notes: 55LW9500 and 55LV9500 Look to have the Exact same Service Manuals.
(Did not go into real fine details, but they look identical.)
Woofer has it's own IC chip.
55LW9500-NA - ALEF - Local Dimming - No THX
55LW9500-UA - ALEF/IOP/LED - Local Dimming - THX
In Service Manual for 55LW9500 no glasses shown
In Service Manual for 55LV9500 Glasses shown (?)
No service Manual for 55LW9800 Available Yet.
Suggestions: Do not do the FW upgrade in case the new FW just may totally disable 3D if it's actually there, and not already disabled!? Let us check first.
Quick test: After Enabling the 3D. (In the Service Menu with either the Service Remote, or RS232 PC Connection)
Anyone with a DirecTV receiver could try putting on the 3D Channals and see if DirecTV detects this TV as being 3D. If Not, then you may now want to try the FW Upgrade after we check first.

In Australia we have Foxtel, which I assume to be similar to DirecTV? A Pay TV service? Foxtel has ESPN 3D, which is a side by side broadcast that i've been using to test. The only thing that concerns me there is that the broadcast box is not HDMI 1.4, so not sure if that's an issue.
I've also tried doing 2D-3D conversion on the built in antenna with no success.
My new Oppo BDP-93 is due to arrive this morning, so I can try that too.


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Originally Posted by TouchMeNot97 View Post

I got the TV on Friday and love it but would like to try and make it 3D. How did you even get to that option? I have looked everywhere with no luck

Not sure if I can post external links, but if you search for LG EZ Menu access you'll find it very easy. In short, you'll need a universal remote, like a Harmony, Pronto (which is what I use), One4all etc

You can enable the 3D and 2D-3D conversion options under Tool Options 5
post #145 of 1747
After you enabled the 3d menu's did you do the instop (factory reset)?
post #146 of 1747
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Originally Posted by bboy1234 View Post

After you enabled the 3d menu's did you do the instop (factory reset)?

I believe if you read back in this thread, you'll see that he did.
post #147 of 1747
I have a Samsung 81f full back lighting local dimming TV and pick it up on sale for 1/3 of it's selling price.
the 81f was not selling because of the price of the TV.
I was hooked on led local dimming. Then samsung went with edge lit led and everyone jumped on that band wagon.
Vizio started selling local dimming full array and now we have nano full back lighting and a step up in the full array led.
post #148 of 1747
hey guys..thought i would join in on the conversation over here also since i have been posting all the information over at slickdeals...so has anyone figured out anything further as to whether we can enable 3d support on this set...more specifically a set of glasses that can sync to it...if you guys need anymore info about the tv just ask
post #149 of 1747
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Originally Posted by cubsoxbullbears View Post

Mine says shipped on Friday, I ordered mine when around 4800 were sold.

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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

I have yet to see them even bill my credit card.

I ordered, I think in the 3500s - for two days I had the $1499.99 charge pending on my CC but now it is gone.

No update on shipping/cancellation so I will assume I am in the void.
post #150 of 1747
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

I believe if you read back in this thread, you'll see that he did.

I think a simple yes would have been a bit more kind.
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