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post #781 of 1697
9/4/11 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

After turning on the THX settings, all IREs and CMS values are Zeroes in the 10 Point setting, same with the Expert Modes. On our 55LHX TV's the IRE's all had been calibrated to some LG Standard on the Expert 1,2 and THX. Their IREs each had different values. CMS Values were left at Zero. Possibly, the new Nano 55LV9500 has been designed to come as close to what LG considers their ideal that no calibration of the IRE's are needed? (Or to save monies - they're no longer calibrated - especially when they leave them turned off for some dumb reason?)

Why would these sets be calibrated? The feature is disabled by default -- it's obviously is not a selling point for these models.
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post #782 of 1697
9/4/11 at 10:08pm
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Why would these sets be calibrated? The feature is disabled by default -- it's obviously is not a selling point for these models.

They are working in my set, might be the different software I am running or that I have my set in Engineer mode. I used the 10 point settings from CNET from the LX9500 review accept 10 IRE blue 0.8 nit I have at -25 and under 10 IRE I have red +3. My colors are amazing with these settings.

Give these settings a try and let me know how they work, my LX9500 was not pre-calibrated either. It was a floor model so maybe somone messed it up.
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post #783 of 1697
9/5/11 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

After turning on the THX settings, all IREs and CMS values are Zeroes in the 10 Point setting, same with the Expert Modes. On our 55LHX TV's the IRE's all had been calibrated to some LG Standard on the Expert 1,2 and THX. Their IREs each had different values. CMS Values were left at Zero. Possibly, the new Nano 55LV9500 has been designed to come as close to what LG considers their ideal that no calibration of the IRE's are needed? (Or to save monies - they're no longer calibrated - especially when they leave them turned off for some dumb reason?)

Thats kind of where I was going with my original question. I figured all THX certified displays must receive some end calibration at the factory to a know standard to compensate for variations in the panels. It makes no sense to do this and then disable the picture mode in the service menu. When activiting THX in the service menu on the LV's I would have to believe you are only accesses an uncalibrated picture profile.
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post #784 of 1697
9/5/11 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by jimmyjames1700 View Post


Thats kind of where I was going with my original question. I figured all THX certified displays must receive some end calibration at the factory to a know standard to compensate for variations in the panels. It makes no sense to do this and then disable the picture mode in the service menu. When activiting THX in the service menu on the LV's I would have to believe you are only accesses an uncalibrated picture profile.

On my set the THX settings are calibrated and the expert 1 and 2 are not. This is the same as my LX9500 was. P5browne does not even have his lv9500 yet so his knowlege is second hand on this set. You are not supposed to be able to tweak the CMS on the THX modes that is what expert 1 and 2 are for.
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post #785 of 1697
9/5/11 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by wbob View Post

I have a little over 120 hours on the 55lv9500 and twice, during that period of time, the television shut down and restarted on its own. The two occurrences were about a week apart. I have used the set with no problems for 3 days since the last restart. After the restart, there were no noticeable problems with the set and all user settings were intact. I thought it might be a power outage but none of the digital clocks were affected. Both occurrences were during daylight hours and the lights were not on (no noticeable power loss). I have a whole house surge/noise suppressor wired directly into the main circuit box so I do not believe it was a power (transient) problem (also no storms). Both times I was streaming Netflix so there were no other powered components operating. The second time, I immediately noticed that the cable box did not reboot (as it does after a power loss). The set had been on for about 2 hours prior to this occurrence. The TV is wall mounted but there is nothing that would interfere with circulation. The house is air-conditioned and set at 75 degrees (F). My second thought was that it was a reboot after an unsolicited upgrade (having been following the posts on this subject), but it still shows only the initial FW upgrade. I check the various scheduled on/off/sleep timer settings and these are all off. Anyone else experience this? Anyone have any thoughts?

The unit has a watchdog process that will restart the TV if it finds that its software has crashed for some reason. It's possible the netflix applet caused LG's software to crash.
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post #786 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

You can make changes in the menu, however without a in-stop button the 3D will not work. This requires a service or programmable remote.

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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

You inserted the drive into "USB IN 1"? It's the bottom of the two USB ports. With DVR mode enabled, there should be a prompt to format and use the drive.

Yes i have used the in-stop menu. As i mentioned 3D, I was able to enable 3D menu. The issue is with the DVR. I have enabled the option and did in-stop as well.

When i inserted my WD portable hard drive, It keeps asking me if i want to use this Input. If I say yes, It is taking me to the screen where it shows all the media files in the drive for playing.

Please help me. I have tried different usb drives. Still with no luck.

Can you guys confirm that this features worked on 55lv9500 ?

Please let me know if i missed any step in this
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post #787 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

On my set the THX settings are calibrated and the expert 1 and 2 are not. This is the same as my LX9500 was. P5browne does not even have his lv9500 yet so his knowlege is second hand on this set. You are not supposed to be able to tweak the CMS on the THX modes that is what expert 1 and 2 are for.

Funny, my THX modes allow adjustments in both IRE and CMS.
May be the update you have or engineering mode
Has anyone else have a newer updated software than 4.00.18?
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post #788 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by srlap View Post

Yes i have used the in-stop menu. As i mentioned 3D, I was able to enable 3D menu. The issue is with the DVR. I have enabled the option and did in-stop as well.

When i inserted my WD portable hard drive, It keeps asking me if i want to use this Input. If I say yes, It is taking me to the screen where it shows all the media files in the drive for playing.

Please help me. I have tried different usb drives. Still with no luck.

Can you guys confirm that this features worked on 55lv9500 ?

Please let me know if i missed any step in this

Yes it works on 55LV9500. That's the only TV we're talking about here.

I'll do some more digging to see if there's something else required.
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post #789 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

Yes it works on 55LV9500. That's the only TV we're talking about here.

I'll do some more digging to see if there's something else required.

Thanks
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post #790 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

On my set the THX settings are calibrated and the expert 1 and 2 are not. This is the same as my LX9500 was. P5browne does not even have his lv9500 yet so his knowlege is second hand on this set. You are not supposed to be able to tweak the CMS on the THX modes that is what expert 1 and 2 are for.

videkid,

I can't seem to find any of your posts that cover your opinions on the LX9500 and prior models. Were you posting here under a different user id?

-nony
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post #791 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by srlap View Post

Thanks

No problem. It looks like the unit will try to use an external drive as a media drive if it can read the partition. I was able to recreate the behavior you're seeing by formatting the drive with FAT32 and sticking a video file on it. Try first connecting the drive to your computer and deleting the partition, then plug it into the proper USB port on the TV.

Note that there's no way to do this without destroying all of the data that currently exists on the drive.
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post #792 of 1697
9/5/11 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

No problem. It looks like the unit will try to use an external drive as a media drive if it can read the partition. I was able to recreate the behavior you're seeing by formatting the drive with FAT32 and sticking a video file on it. Try first connecting the drive to your computer and deleting the partition, then plug it into the proper USB port on the TV.

Note that there's no way to do this without destroying all of the data that currently exists on the drive.

Thank you. You were right on it. That's what the problem was. Now i am able to record the shows. Also, I found out another way to initialize -

If you go all the way to the right on the Home Menu after Lg Apps, Smart Share, you will see a screen that has all the "Time Machine" related stuff. There is a button to initialize the hard disk.

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post #793 of 1697
9/5/11 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

Funny, my THX modes allow adjustments in both IRE and CMS.
May be the update you have or engineering mode
Has anyone else have a newer updated software than 4.00.18?

Mine will not let me change anything on the THX mode but backlighting, Ratio and TruMotion. The THX is pre-calibrated and looks very good. I was
able to beat it by using CNET LX9500 setting and tweaking the CMS slightly form the CNET settings. The attached shows my software version

I just found oit you are using the service remote to access the 10 point white balance in the THX mode, that makes sense. I never purchased the actual remote, you probably have a few extra features.
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post #794 of 1697
9/5/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

videkid,

I can't seem to find any of your posts that cover your opinions on the LX9500 and prior models. Were you posting here under a different user id?

-nony

I was not a member before I purchased the LV9500. I only had the LX9500 for a few months, floor model at BB Magnolia for $1,400. When I purchased the LV9500 this site was the only web page that came up when I did a search. I sold my LX9500 to my brother for cost, he loves the set. I should have never read CNET as I did not see the banding until I read thier review.

I have been traveling alot over the last 2 years staying at Marriott hotels which seem to exclusively purchase LG LED sets and love the picture even on the less expensive sets. So I became a fan of LG and almost purchased an LHX until I read reviews and found people complaining about DSE. I never actually seen one in person but read a great review from a guy who calibrated one on another Hometheater site.
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post #795 of 1697
9/5/11 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

The unit has a watchdog process that will restart the TV if it finds that its software has crashed for some reason. It's possible the netflix applet caused LG's software to crash.

That certainly can explain what happened. Thank you!!!!
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post #796 of 1697
9/5/11 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

Mine will not let me change anything on the THX mode but backlighting, Ratio and TruMotion. The THX is pre-calibrated and looks very good. I was able to beat it by using CNET LX9500 setting and tweaking the CMS slightly form the CNET settings. The attached shows my software version.

How did you get to 4.01.29 ? Mine is 4.0.18. It keeps saying it is up to date ? Does it have a newer flash on it ?
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post #797 of 1697
9/5/11 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by srlap View Post


How did you get to 4.01.29 ? Mine is 4.0.18. It keeps saying it is up to date ? Does it have a newer flash on it ?

I have no idea, I think I am the only one who has it.
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post #798 of 1697
9/5/11 at 6:38pm
I dont know why I keep getting them, I just recieved another update and accepted the download.
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post #799 of 1697
9/5/11 at 7:48pm
Could it be that he, Videkid, is using his internet apps?
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post #800 of 1697
9/5/11 at 8:11pm
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I dont know why I keep getting them, I just recieved another update and accepted the download.

Everything still works?
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post #801 of 1697
9/5/11 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

Everything still works?

Yes, the first thing I checked is the 3D and all is well, it shows the new software version on the In-Start menu also. I do not want to lose my 3D, I am convinced that the last thing LG is worried about is a few hundred of us on this forum enjoying 3D movies and purchasing LG 3D glasses.
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post #802 of 1697
9/5/11 at 8:45pm
So is it worth buying a service remote just to enable THX? (Won't use 3d ever). Some people say it isn't calibrated, some say it is. Thanks
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post #803 of 1697
9/5/11 at 9:11pm
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Originally Posted by turkletont View Post

So is it worth buying a service remote just to enable THX? (Won't use 3d ever). Some people say it isn't calibrated, some say it is. Thanks

Yes, it is very much worth it. They do calibrate the settings but it sounds like they do not fine tune the CMS 100% (cannot verify, I do not have the service remote). The THX setup is a very good start point, may not be perfect but difficult to calibrate yourself unless you have done a few TV'S.

I spent $30 more for the Harmony 650 and it is a pain to program just to turn on the 3D.
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post #804 of 1697
9/5/11 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

Yes, the first thing I checked is the 3D and all is well, it shows the new software version on the On-Start menu also. I do not want to lose my 3D, I am convinced that the last thing LG is worried about is a few hundred of us on this forum enjoying 3D movies and purchasing LG 3D glasses.

Even if some update does disable 3D, it's easy to roll back to the previous version you had installed.
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post #805 of 1697
9/5/11 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

I dont know why I keep getting them, I just recieved another update and accepted the download.

Did you notice any differance with the picture after the update?
could it be updating the apps?
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post #806 of 1697
9/5/11 at 9:47pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post


Did you notice any differance with the picture after the update?
could it be updating the apps?

I do not notice any changes, the picture seems better, this might be in my head thou and not real.

The backlight is amazing, it might be an update to the backlight operation, just speculation.
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post #807 of 1697
9/5/11 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

I do not notice any changes, the picture seems better, this might be in my head thou and not real.

The backlight is amazing, it might be an update to the backlight operation, just speculation.

Nonsense. You may actually be impairing the performance of your TV. These are not production ready builds, and it is foolish to play around with them, just like you would be advised not to download the unstable/experimental builds of your favorite linux distro. Would you install microsoft hotfixes without knowing what they were intended for? Of course not! These are meant for QA to test with, which you can't do, since you wouldn't know what to test for.

Go ahead and knock yourself out if it makes you happy. You will probably stumble upon a few interesting apps that haven't been or won't be released, but beware that you may run into difficulties reverting your firmware.

And p5browne, Konica, (and others) are on the money about the THX settings.

I wonder if we could get "dual play" enabled on these sets - (just announced at IFA). Now wasn't there a dual control setting in the service menu?

-nony
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post #808 of 1697
9/5/11 at 10:59pm
Did videkid change to a QA SDP server?

In the meantime, I've finally gotten shell access and started telnetd on my lv9500. I've dumped all of the 04.00.18 firmware in case anyone wants anything.
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post #809 of 1697
9/5/11 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

Did videkid change to a QA SDP server?

In the meantime, I've finally gotten shell access and started telnetd on my lv9500. I've dumped all of the 04.00.18 firmware in case anyone wants anything.

I think its actually a toggle of the Ignore Disable flag.
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Nice. Did you have to jump through hoops to get shell access?

-nony
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post #810 of 1697
9/6/11 at 12:47am
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

Nonsense. You may actually be impairing the performance of your TV. These are not production ready builds, and it is foolish to play around with them, just like you would be advised not to download the unstable/experimental builds of your favorite linux distro. Would you install microsoft hotfixes without knowing what they were intended for? Of course not! These are meant for QA to test with, which you can't do, since you wouldn't know what to test for.

Go ahead and knock yourself out if it makes you happy. You will probably stumble upon a few interesting apps that haven't been or won't be released, but beware that you may run into difficulties reverting your firmware.

And p5browne, Konica, (and others) are on the money about the THX settings.

I wonder if we could get "dual play" enabled on these sets - (just announced at IFA). Now wasn't there a dual control setting in the service menu?

-nony

The Basic THX setting are setup and worth the $40.00 to access. Adjusting the CMS without the proper equipment would would more than likely make your picture worse and is why the ISF expert 1 and 2 are there. The THX mode setup as is is the most accurate setting without a proper calibration which is what I recommend anyone who wants the best performance pay to have done.

I can assure you, as I posted most likely any improvment of the picture is in my head, but for sure there has been no impairment of performance.
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