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Originally Posted by redwolf4k
No, it should be solving the actual video black from being elevated. In the case of a plasma it will appear as dithering. True video black in film, or even in the credits with a black background. Thats the dithering we are talking about. Of course dithering from extremely dark detail will still remain. Its the actual true black of film I am talking about.
This true video black dithers in both film, and on the DVE pattern when set as instructed by AVS or WOW. It seems only the DVE pattern, that indicates where video black should be aligns perfectly with blu-ray and dvd sources. Of course when setting it with the DVE pattern, video black is correct in blu-rays, as well as it resulting in a lower brightness setting on the tv.
We have had a misunderstanding. My video black (meaning true digital level 16) is just fine in film (as far as I can tell and I was really hawking the screen at nose proximity
). I do still have excessive green dithering (green snow, green flecks, whatever you want to call it) accross dark scenes but true video black
(well the blackest black my plasma can display) is perfectly fine!
Lowering my brightness (so that it is set at level now 18 I believe, I have not tried 19 as I'm not home atm) further DID solve (my perception of):
1) my washed out picture.
2) reducing my green dither considerably (I'm not talking about the video level 16 dither here! but levels 17 and up!)
So I'll repeat for clarity: setting my blacks at level 16 with either my DVDO EDGE VP's pluge pattern or the AVS disc gave me a nice true black with very faint red dithering. Adjusting low end white balance for red with -2 solved the faint red dithering.
All levels above 16 though, show dithering with red and green pixels.
I hope we are on the same page now. Your approach is trying to solve a problem I did not have. But nevertheless, not adhering to level 16 did have a possible effect on my picture.
This begs the question: if you make the 4% below black stripe on the standard pluge pattern disappear (my EDGE VP doesn't have a fancy one like AVS
). And subsequently, you get the pluge patterns' background (= video black at level 16) as black as the 4% below black stripe. Are you then done. Most sources say "YES" to this.
But you could continue lowering the brightness until the above black stripe disappears, and then you dial back 1 notch so that it becomes visible again.
You seem to have a similar experience. The picture actually looks better by setting it at level 18-19 instead of 16.