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post #61 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

I just got the A1010 today.
Tried it quickly, and none of my AVCHD folder worked, while they're ok on the pioneer LX55.

Also, when there is a disc in the drive, there is a shrill noise very audible.
Quite annoying.

I've the A1000 & no shrill noise.

How did you rip the video? There is no problem with h.264 in mkv container for my 2 files; the audio was mistakenly set to be ac3/ffmeg; will do a pass-thru from now on. Used handbrake to do the ripping.

Haven't had time to do the videos since I'm still in the process of putting the audio CDs to the hard drive.
post #62 of 322
Thanks for your answer.

about the sound issue, it could be my player only.
I should try a second A1010 tomorrow. I'll let you know.

Beside, I tried many 23.976 files in MKV and M2TS, and none of them worked at 24p. Always in 60p.

On reviews you can read that 24hz m2ts work perfectly on the s1067.
I guess the A1010 software is still in beta
post #63 of 322
Hi there,

I put an AVCHD folder here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V49OG2JG

If someone can do the test on his A1000 or A1010.

You just have to unzip the file, and copy the folder "AVCHD" to the root of your USB Hdd or Key.
Then, on the yamaha, go to the "Home media menu" and click on AVCHD.
If it works, it means that only european models have this issue.

Thank you for your help
post #64 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

Hi there,

I put an AVCHD folder here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V49OG2JG

If someone can do the test on his A1000 or A1010.

You just have to unzip the file, and copy the folder "AVCHD" to the root of your USB Hdd or Key.
Then, on the yamaha, go to the "Home media menu" and click on AVCHD.
If it works, it means that only european models have this issue.

Thank you for your help

Placing the AVCHD folder in the root of the usb drive, locks up the player when trying to drill down the folder; had to unplug.

However, if I just copied the m2ts file to my own video subdirectory, the a1000 plays the video without problems.

Most likely, the problem is how your hard drive/nas handle/set up the media sever or dlna. My usb hdd is connected to a netgear router & I still haven't gotten how to get into the root directory even if the drive is mapped in win7. I've found that strange things happen when creating a root folder as my dlna already has some root folder names that will conflict; e.g. the player sees a folder, Picture, but I don't see it in the root.

I created a Video folder but had to change it to videos as is became a "NULL" folder!

My guess is that the AVCHD may be "native" to the DLNA or player. Suggest just copy/move the m2ts to a generic folder name & try playing it.

DLNA & readyshare is new to me & still learning! I find I am not able to delete my mistakes in the ripping of music to a wrong name, so far.
post #65 of 322
Thanks for your help
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Placing the AVCHD folder in the root of the usb drive, locks up the player when trying to drill down the folder; had to unplug.

Ok, so US models are concerned too.

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However, if I just copied the m2ts file to my own video subdirectory, the a1000 plays the video without problems.

Yes, you can play directly m2ts, but you lose all the advantages of AVCHD structure.
Meaning, multiple audio and subtitles, Mainmenu, etc...

AVCHD structure is like a Mini-bluray.

And that works on every player I've used, except this Yamaha.
What a step-back
post #66 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

Thanks for your help

Ok, so US models are concerned too.


Yes, you can play directly m2ts, but you lose all the advantages of AVCHD structure.
Meaning, multiple audio and subtitles, Mainmenu, etc...

AVCHD structure is like a Mini-bluray.

And that works on every player I've used, except this Yamaha.
What a step-back

The manual shows an AVCHD & Photo, but I don't know if that is from the dlna server or the player's interpretation. Neither folder is in the hard drive. Perhaps the AVCHD directory was expected to be in the server as well as Photo?

I also have a Yamaha RX-A1000 receiver. Looking at the DLNA selection, I see Music, Video & Pictures; Pictures don't exist on the hard drive. I checked the Pictures directory on the AVR & see various aspects that a pic can have, e.g. date taken. I know I didn't put the directories there.

The directory for my video on the hard drive is Videos, so where did the "Video" label come from in both the avr & player?

Is all this Yamaha's implementation of accessing DLNA or what the DLNA server passes to the devices?

Still trying to understand. Hindsight says I should have gotten a real NAS where I would be able to have some control on how DLNA is configured.

Regarding the AVCHD directory, it could be a "dup" like a problem I had with creating a "Video" directory. Or a bug that need to be reported to Yamaha for a fix.

I'm finding I think I need to reboot my router so that it forces a real rescan by its DLNA app.
post #67 of 322
Concerning the BD-A1010, I'm done.

I'm sending it back to my reseller tomorrow.
Too many bugs I can't deal with.
post #68 of 322
I'm more into optical discs than external USB storage. So none of this stuff really applies to me. So as far as I'm concerned, the 1010 is a keeper.

I wonder if any Yamaha reps post here like walkamo from Pioneer posts here.
post #69 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

Concerning the BD-A1010, I'm done.

I'm sending it back to my reseller tomorrow.
Too many bugs I can't deal with.

If you need mkv/mt2s/bdmv/avi/avchd playback, look no further, get an Oppo.

Like Big C said, I'm more into the actual discs themselves.
post #70 of 322
I only need AVCHD playback.
M2TS, AVI, and MKV are not important to me.

And I already have an Oppo 93, but don't really like the PQ.
I prefer the Pioneer 53FD one, and on top, the BD-a1010 one.

But what is really bother me, is that AVCHD playback is supposed to work
It's written on the datasheet, the manual, and on the Home Media Menu.
post #71 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

I only need AVCHD playback.
M2TS, AVI, and MKV are not important to me.

And I already have an Oppo 93, but don't really like the PQ.
I prefer the Pioneer 53FD one, and on top, the BD-a1010 one.

But what is really bother me, is that AVCHD playback is supposed to work
It's written on the datasheet, the manual, and on the Home Media Menu.

Doesn't the Oppo BDP-93 use Marvell QDEO video processing? How can its picture quality not be as good as the other players you mentioned? Also, I don't think the 1010 uses anything except the MediaTek's onboard video processing, so how can its picture quality be better than the other two players? I find your diagnosis very strange! I'll have to investigate!
post #72 of 322
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

So far, the only little bug I've experienced with the 1010 is that when you have the network access enabled, you have to wait between thirty and sixty seconds at power-up before the player becomes responsive to remote or front panel commands. No biggie.

This player has a feature called "Network Control." If you leave it on, the player still expects an internet connection even when in STANDBY. The problem is that if you have a USB-powered wireless bridge connected to the player like I do, there is no power coming from the player's USB port when the player is in STANDBY. So when the player turns on, for some reason it is waiting to reestablish an internet connection. I discovered that the USB port on my Scientific Atlanta cable box is constently supplying power. So I then unplugged the 1010, reset and reconfigured my modem, routers, and bridges. Finally, once the bridge for this player was connected to the internet, I plugged my Yamaha back in and now when I turn it on, I have no problem. I hope I made myself clear incase anyone else is experiencing a similar problem.
post #73 of 322
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

This player has a feature called "Network Control." If you leave it on, the player still expects an internet connection even when in STANDBY. The problem is that if you have a USB-powered wireless bridge connected to the player like I do, there is no power coming from the player's USB port when the player is in STANDBY. So when the player turns on, for some reason it is waiting to reestablish an internet connection. I discovered that the USB port on my Scientific Atlanta cable box is constently supplying power. So I then unplugged the 1010, reset and reconfigured my modem, routers, and bridges. Finally, once the bridge for this player was connected to the internet, I plugged my Yamaha back in and now when I turn it on, I have no problem. I hope I made myself clear incase anyone else is experiencing a similar problem.

My "solution" was to just turn-off network control as the A1000 is hardwired. Decided to do so because when the player was turned off, it still showed up as an attached device on the router.

I didn't care for having something in the network controlling the player, especially for turning it on/off.
post #74 of 322
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

I only need AVCHD playback.
M2TS, AVI, and MKV are not important to me.

And I already have an Oppo 93, but don't really like the PQ.
I prefer the Pioneer 53FD one, and on top, the BD-a1010 one.

But what is really bother me, is that AVCHD playback is supposed to work
It's written on the datasheet, the manual, and on the Home Media Menu.

I'm more into music so the player doesn't do badly for me as the music files are in flac & can be played with the avr as being more convienent.

Any video I rip will be single files, I think as they are old stuff.
post #75 of 322
I chose this player over the Oppo because it definatly converts DSD to PCM at 176.4 KHz, as opposed to the Oppo's 88.2 KHz. Once I solved the problem in which it froze during the first thirty to sixty seconds of power-on, I don't think I could be happier. Although I only had the player for ten days. So I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hmmm. Considering how good this player is, you'd think there would be more activity in this thread. This thread seems almost as quiet as a thread for a noname brand player!
post #76 of 322
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

I chose this player over the Oppo because it definatly converts DSD to PCM at 176.4 KHz, as opposed to the Oppo's 88.2 KHz. Once I solved the problem in which it froze during the first thirty to sixty seconds of power-on, I don't think I could be happier. Although I only had the player for ten days. So I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hmmm. Considering how good this player is, you'd think there would be more activity in this thread. This thread seems almost as quiet as a thread for a noname brand player!

For such a high price, the Oppo didn't do pcm at 176.4; maybe they decided to go the apple way & overcharge for their products.

The Yamaha players are hard to find & for a long time the Yamaha online said they didn't have any in stock.

However, the lack of activity may be more like the products for the "high end" & high priced audio players; e.g. Cambridge Audio, McIntosh, Krell(?), Integra, etc.
post #77 of 322
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Originally Posted by citrus View Post

For such a high price, the Oppo didn't do pcm at 176.4; maybe they decided to go the apple way & overcharge for their products.

The Yamaha players are hard to find & for a long time the Yamaha online said they didn't have any in stock.

However, the lack of activity may be more like the products for the "high end" & high priced audio players; e.g. Cambridge Audio, McIntosh, Krell(?), Integra, etc.

Does anyone know why these are so hard to find? Newegg doesn't offer and Amazon always says they are sold out.
post #78 of 322
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Originally Posted by marcusj50 View Post

Does anyone know why these are so hard to find? Newegg doesn't offer and Amazon always says they are sold out.

Got mine from ABT...currently in stock
post #79 of 322
Just saw this post in the UD7006 thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21307641

The interface on the UD7006 looks shocking similar to BD-A1010. So I would say the Yamaha is heavily related to the Denon/Marantz twins. From what I heard, the Denon twins are made by Inkel...Sherwood's parent company.
post #80 of 322
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Originally Posted by TuenMuner View Post

Just saw this post in the UD7006 thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21307641

The interface on the UD7006 looks shocking similar to BD-A1010. So I would say the Yamaha is heavily related to the Denon/Marantz twins. From what I heard, the Denon twins are made by Inkel...Sherwood's parent company.

After your last post, I was actually hoping that the method of making the UD7006 multi-region would apply to this Yamaha. However, that requires a firmware swap. Considering that the players use different firmware, it doesn't look like the answer.
post #81 of 322
Think I will check one of these out this weekend.
post #82 of 322
I've got one coming next week. I'm hoping it's as good as advertised.
post #83 of 322
Out of Yamaha's four MediaTek players, the only one which doesn't have the De-interlacing options of Auto/Film/Video is the BD-S667. I'm wondering if this is a feature of the MediaTek chipset, or if Yamaha chose Anchor Bay, Marvell, or someone like that for video processing. You'd think that if additional video processing was used, such a feature would be listed. The only thing that's got me wondering is that someone here posted that the BD-A1010 has better picture quality than the Oppo BDP-93 and Pioneer BDP-53FD/LX55. How can that be if the Oppo and Pioneer use the Marvell QDeo video processing?
post #84 of 322
My new BD-A1010 will be arriving on Monday! I will be pulling the Pioneer 51FD out of the platform.
post #85 of 322
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Originally Posted by tcfish19 View Post

I've got one coming next week. I'm hoping it's as good as advertised.

Same here.
post #86 of 322
I have been test driving my BD-1010A this week and I like the performance.

Bluerays and DVD's are performing well with no issue. SACD - DSD works flawlessly to my Pioneer Elite Receiver via HDMI.

Pros: It pretty much plays everything well. The DAC's for analog outs is fairly neutral across the spectrum, which I like . The bass / LFE seems to be a bit stronger compared to other players. The Internet connection is nice to have.

Cons: Buttons, display, and face plate on the unit look cheap. The remote also feels cheap (I think this is where Yamaha cut costs). The Internet Menu and selections feels very "Beta" release and rushed into production. Hopefully more options and polish will be available to interact with Youtube, etc. A firmware update to support Pandora would also be nice.

For me overall, the important stuff is audio and video performance with disc's in hand as opposed to streaming, I like it so far!

If this one starts to bomb out over time like my Pioneer 51FD, then I guess I will try Oppo next!

Thanks!
post #87 of 322
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Originally Posted by wrxman View Post

I have been test driving my BD-1010A this week and I like the performance.

Bluerays and DVD's are performing well with no issue. SACD - DSD works flawlessly to my Pioneer Elite Receiver via HDMI.

Pros: It pretty much plays everything well. The DAC's for analog outs is fairly neutral across the spectrum, which I like . The bass / LFE seems to be a bit stronger compared to other players. The Internet connection is nice to have.

Cons: Buttons, display, and face plate on the unit look cheap. The remote also feels cheap (I think this is where Yamaha cut costs). The Internet Menu and selections feels very "Beta" release and rushed into production. Hopefully more options and polish will be available to interact with Youtube, etc. A firmware update to support Pandora would also be nice.

For me overall, the important stuff is audio and video performance with disc's in hand as opposed to streaming, I like it so far!

If this one starts to bomb out over time like my Pioneer 51FD, then I guess I will try Oppo next!

Thanks!

Which Elite receiver do you have? If it doesn't use DSD-capable DACs, then if playing SACD via HDMI, you should set the Yamaha's SACD output via HDMI to PCM. When playing multi-channel areas of SACDs, Elite receivers from 2009 to the present convert DSD to PCM at 88.2 KHz. However, if you tell the Yamaha to do the DSD-to-PCM conversion via HDMI, it will do it at 176.4 KHz.
post #88 of 322
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

Which Elite receiver do you have? If it doesn't use DSD-capable DACs, then if playing SACD via HDMI, you should set the Yamaha's SACD output via HDMI to PCM. When playing multi-channel areas of SACDs, Elite receivers from 2009 to the present convert DSD to PCM at 88.2 KHz. However, if you tell the Yamaha to do the DSD-to-PCM conversion via HDMI, it will do it at 176.4 KHz.

I have an Elite VSX-03. I have been very pleased with it.
post #89 of 322
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Originally Posted by wrxman View Post

I have an Elite VSX-03. I have been very pleased with it.

Check what kind of DAC it has. I have a feeling that it would be either Burr-Brown PCM17XX or Wolfson WM8XXXX. See if you can find that info. To make matters easier, while the Yamaha is playing the multi-channel area of an SACD with SACD Output set to DSD, press the STATUS button on the VSX-03 remote. If it says FS 88.2 KHz, then set the Yamaha's SACD output to PCM. Then your VSX-03 should say FS 176.4 KHz, and you'll get better SACD playback.
post #90 of 322
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

Check what kind of DAC it has. I have a feeling that it would be either Burr-Brown PCM17XX or Wolfson WM8XXXX. See if you can find that info. To make matters easier, while the Yamaha is playing the multi-channel area of an SACD with SACD Output set to DSD, press the STATUS button on the VSX-03 remote. If it says FS 88.2 KHz, then set the Yamaha's SACD output to PCM. Then your VSX-03 should say FS 176.4 KHz, and you'll get better SACD playback.

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