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post #121 of 486
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Even if they enforced rules I don't think I would notice when they are in effect or not.

There are dead residents, visitors and guests who really like hanging around the house, there's a rubber suit thing, a cannibal monster in the basement, the burned guy who may or may not be real (nobody else interacts with him) and a Cruella de Vil who lives next door.

And then you factor into that the ghosts actually saved the family from regular human psychopaths last week and the entire show seems to be going in all directions at once.
post #122 of 486
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Even if they enforced rules I don't think I would notice when they are in effect or not.

There are dead residents, visitors and guests who really like hanging around the house, there's a rubber suit thing, a cannibal monster in the basement, the burned guy who may or may not be real (nobody else interacts with him) and a Cruella de Vil who lives next door.

And then you factor into that the ghosts actually saved the family from regular human psychopaths last week and the entire show seems to be going in all directions at once.

My point is, having a lot of tentacles doesn't mean they're making up the rules as they go along. All the behavior you describe has been there all along.

Making up the rules (and having a lot of them) is fine as long as they don't break them.

As far as Larry, if no one else can see him, then they need better background extras. People in the background didn't seem alarmed when Ben (Dylan McDermott) was yelling at him in the park. They didn't act like they were seeing someone yelling to himself. Further, he's been essentially stalking Ben, so the fact that no one else in the family has seen him is attributable to the fact that he only approached Ben at the house when no one else is around.

On the other hand, his wife was understandably confused about his claims of being seduced by someone that appeared to her to be really old and creepy looking. In that case, she wasn't seeing what he saw.

Here are some of the rules (as I understand them) that I've picked up on:

- If you die on the property, you're stuck there unless your body is removed.
- People killed by ghosts don't seem to come back - only those killed by the living. So, for example, the maid is there, but the twins from the first episode aren't.
- Those that have lost someone in the house seem compelled to return there.
- Ghosts can appear (or not appear) differently to different people.
- Ghosts can manipulate real objects within the house.
- The house will do everything it can to keep people in the house (bleeding on the tour, the daughter wishing to stay, the investments going bad, etc.)
- Eventually, someone is compelled to want to kill the other occupants and (attempt to) kill themselves after. Larry failed at the second part.
post #123 of 486
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As far as Larry, if no one else can see him, then they need better background extras. People in the background didn't seem alarmed when Ben (Dylan McDermott) was yelling at him in the park. They didn't act like they were seeing someone yelling to himself.

Yeah but that could be just typical television direction. It often annoys me when there's a big shouting scene or someone falling over in restaurants and people at the next table are completely oblivious to it.
post #124 of 486
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Yeah but that could be just typical television direction. It often annoys me when there's a big shouting scene or someone falling over in restaurants and people at the next table are completely oblivious to it.

Could be, but I seem to remember the students in the background at the school reacting to the stuff between bully girl and the daughter...
post #125 of 486
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People killed by ghosts don't seem to come back - only those killed by the living. So, for example, the maid is there, but the twins from the first episode aren't.

In episode 2, when Vivien returns home with groceries, she hears a noise behind her and turns to discover that someone has opened the refrigerator and cupboard doors. Adelaide says, "It was the twins", and I believe they were even shown standing behind Vivien.

I think it is way too early to start making lists of rules for this show. We don't even know if some of these characters are alive, dead, imagined, flashbacks, just dreams, or what.
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Why is the editing so disjoined? I realize it’s supposed to be unsettling, but at times it’s also distracting.
The editing is in the ’70s style…designed to keep you on edge. It slows down as we progress, it was making too many people dizzy.
post #126 of 486
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Even if they enforced rules I don't think I would notice when they are in effect or not.

There are dead residents, visitors and guests who really like hanging around the house, there's a rubber suit thing, a cannibal monster in the basement, the burned guy who may or may not be real (nobody else interacts with him) and a Cruella de Vil who lives next door.

And then you factor into that the ghosts actually saved the family from regular human psychopaths last week and the entire show seems to be going in all directions at once.

The family serves a purpose for the house and its "master" . I can almost for sure say we have not met the puppet master as of yet. If I had to bet the house itself is possessed by the doctor himself.

At least to me the show has been pretty easy to follow. They seem to be following the same rules since the beginning so there shouldn't be any confusion there.

From the looks of it there are only a handful of ghosts that like to be there and they reside in the basement. The others like the Wife and maid may be stuck there since their bodies are buried within the house grounds. If their remains are removed they can be freed. The maid came from the back of.the house so we never saw her off grounds.
post #127 of 486
It's weird to see people talking down on this show. Cool show, IMO.
post #128 of 486
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In episode 2, when Vivien returns home with groceries, she hears a noise behind her and turns to discover that someone has opened the refrigerator and cupboard doors. Adelaide says, "It was the twins", and I believe they were even shown standing behind Vivien.

I missed that. I must have been occupied by posting on the forum at that moment.

I wish they would have the various ghost poke their heads up once in a while just so we can keep a head count of who's still rattling chains around the place and who's gone to a better place, like Beverly Hills....for a casting call on the next Fox show.

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I think it is way too early to start making lists of rules for this show. We don't even know if some of these characters are alive, dead, imagined, flashbacks, just dreams, or what.

Some are ambiguous, but not most. I think it's okay to consider some things set in stone, the above mentioned rule being the exception.

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At least to me the show has been pretty easy to follow. They seem to be following the same rules since the beginning so there shouldn't be any confusion there.

I think the issue most people are having with following the show is it's been a while since we've had a show where you have to pay attention.

We're out of practice.

For what it's worth, I haven't had any trouble following what's going on overall and I welcome the unexplained stuff. It's nice to look forward to later stuff that will explain it.

We've become too programmed to expect everything to be wrapped up in a bow by the final scene. It's nice to have some loose ends to mull over.
post #129 of 486
Looking forward to seeing Zachary Quinto starring in the next several eps! Maybe this will be what the show needs ...
post #130 of 486
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Looking forward to seeing Zachary Quinto starring in the next several eps! Maybe this will be what the show needs ...

If the show needs anything, is a more interesting story with the family. They seem to be more in purgatory than the ghosts.
post #131 of 486
and maybe they are...
post #132 of 486
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and maybe they are...

Well, back when dear old Dad was sleep walking, I proposed that all this is in his head...

Maybe he's already killed his family and laying in the burn ward. After all, he's always been the caretaker....
post #133 of 486
So I'm guessing the spirits can leave the house on Halloween? Wow...creepy episode. I think the doc is screwed..
post #134 of 486
Freaky ending! So I wonder if that phone call was actually her then? If she called and then 5 minutes later rang the door-bell. Or Ben's just insane.

Do we know who the gimp is yet? I wonder if the gimp was a ghost or a physical being at that time in the ending. Surely Violet can't be hurt.

The two gay guys confused me. So, they are ghosts, brought back by somebody? Brought back to live in the house, and re-call it?

Was Adelaide wearing a real face skin mask? It seemed when JL noticed she did not have a mask on, she freaked out a bit more. The hit and run came out of nowhere. I said something like "holy sh**"

Tate sure knows the history of the Murder House.

I wonder what's wrong with the baby. I think somebody mentioned it will be a beast or something.
post #135 of 486
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So I'm guessing the spirits can leave the house on Halloween? Wow...creepy episode. I think the doc is screwed..

That's one possibility. I wonder if the death of Moira's mother would be tied into that.

Edit: Where are you, VisionOn?
post #136 of 486
did anyone notice that in the beginning of tonights episode Adelaide said that she would never want to be a ghost and that she thinks that it is sad.

There was also a lot of talk about the dead remaining in the basement and them having a "choice" example Charles trying to bring his baby back to life.

I wonder if it means anything?
post #137 of 486
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So I'm guessing the spirits can leave the house on Halloween? Wow...creepy episode. I think the doc is screwed..

The book Adelaide and moms boy toy were reading stated that the dead can walk freely on halloween
post #138 of 486
Welcome to the forum, anastasiaa.

I did not take notice of Adelaide saying that. Good ears.
post #139 of 486
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You can never say that stuff never happens on this show. And quite disturbing stuff at that. I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone assemble the dismembered corpse of a baby on television.

I like the fact this show is hard to predict because while I expected Addy to get hit by a car I really didn't expect it to be so violent and final. Especially as the show was giving her character more to do. The gimp I thought I'd solved and that it was the dead son playing dress up, but then they revealed him in the suit and I thought that was too easy so now I'm back to thinking it's some kind of possessed suit.

I guess the Burned Man is not imaginary now? Or maybe the distortion field of the house on Halloween makes him visible to others?

One thing this episode did highlight yet again is how boring Dylan McDermott's character is. The first couple of minutes made Quinto and his boyfriend more interesting then Dylan's been all series.
post #140 of 486
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The two gay guys confused me. So, they are ghosts, brought back by somebody? Brought back to live in the house, and re-call it?

The dead are free to wander on Halloween so it appears that they returned to one thing they had left unfinished - the house on Halloween. Plus of course what dies in the house gets trapped in the house so they are probably buried in the garden/basement/walls too.

Scratch that, I just remembered their bodies were found so they probably had a proper burial. Now it appears they are just restless spirits. Only Melinda Gordon can save them!
post #141 of 486
Interesting how Quinto was talking about how ugly the gazebo was and how it needed to come down. He obviously knows what Ben did....but if he doesn't live on the grounds I wonder how he knows? I think the burned man is definitely real...he seems too sleazy (killing the mistress then blackmailing to keep it secret) to be a figment of Ben's imagination.
post #142 of 486
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I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone assemble the dismembered corpse of a baby on television.

This line gave me a good laugh, but yeah.... the show is delivering the "crazy" on a consistent basis.

They really set up a lot of action for the second part of the Halloween episodes, it should be an awesome show next week. If the house fills with returned ghosts, I wonder if some will start attacking each other, like "Moira vs Constance" or "Hayden vs Larry".
post #143 of 486
Do we think they just left the hospital without finding out what was wrong with their baby? If the nurse faints after looking at my ultrasound, I want to know why...
post #144 of 486
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Do we think they just left the hospital without finding out what was wrong with their baby? If the nurse faints after looking at my ultrasound, I want to know why...

Always leave the audience wanting more I'm sure well get the answer later on.

The only reason McDermott is boring is because we are seeing his story unfold. If we were only given a.short snipet of the "end" peoples opinion might be different.
post #145 of 486
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

The dead are free to wander on Halloween so it appears that they returned to one thing they had left unfinished - the house on Halloween. Plus of course what dies in the house gets trapped in the house so they are probably buried in the garden/basement/walls too.

Scratch that, I just remembered their bodies were found so they probably had a proper burial. Now it appears they are just restless spirits. Only Melinda Gordon can save them!

Good deal.
post #146 of 486
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The dead are free to wander on Halloween so it appears that they returned to one thing they had left unfinished - the house on Halloween. Plus of course what dies in the house gets trapped in the house so they are probably buried in the garden/basement/walls too.

Scratch that, I just remembered their bodies were found so they probably had a proper burial. Now it appears they are just restless spirits. Only Melinda Gordon can save them!

The Ghosts can go where they want on Holloween which is why the maid asked for the day off to see her mother. She was able to leave the house grounds. The gay couple which we haven't seen up until this point decided to come back.

I do have to say that I am liking this show more and more. Its one big mindful*%5 of demented imagery and people. Just when you think you have things figured out boom they hit you with a twist.
post #147 of 486
so is the real estate agent in on all of this as well ? She disclosed that the previous clients killed each other in the basement, I could have sworn she said it was a husband/wife. She never mentioned the gay couple from 2010. I'm sure she knew about them as well.

so I'm wondering how she is tied into all of this ? I doubt she's a ghost because the wife used her to buy the house and now to sell it, so she was probably contacted through a real estate office, nevermind the closing and all
post #148 of 486
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so is the real estate agent in on all of this as well ? She disclosed that the previous clients killed each other in the basement, I could have sworn she said it was a husband/wife. She never mentioned the gay couple from 2010. I'm sure she knew about them as well.

so I'm wondering how she is tied into all of this ? I doubt she's a ghost because the wife used her to buy the house and now to sell it, so she was probably contacted through a real estate office, nevermind the closing and all

She made it pretty clear she was talking about the gay couple, even mentioning she thought "those people" had better tastes when commenting on the murals.

She also said she was only required to disclose any deaths in the house in the last 3 years and claimed she did so.
post #149 of 486
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

Excellent show. Very weird and creepy indeed.
I'll be watching for sure.

That stuff was wild.

me included
post #150 of 486
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Tate sure knows the history of the Murder House.

He should since he was probably killed there. Pretty obvious that he could only leave on Halloween. He made mention of how much things had changed when he brought coffee to the Doc when they met outside.

I hope D* and Fox work things out soon, or I'll miss this show and SOA.

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