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post #1621 of 8399
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Originally Posted by Rew452 View Post

Thanks kindly for your response. I did install Chrome but even though I purchased the builder licence it still has me as a Try user. How do I get to the licensed version?

Any ideas?

Thanks again
Rew

You need to log into gmail. The builder uses your gmail account to authenticate you. If there is a conflict between the email address you bought with and your gmail account, contact iRule support and they will sync everything up for you (This happened to me and was fixed VERY quickly).

From the buy now page at iruleathome:
Warning: the iRule Builder uses a Google account (Gmail) to log in. Make sure that you complete your purchase of the iRule Builder license using your Gmail email account. Your Gmail account will be your username and password to log into the iRule Builder.
post #1622 of 8399
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

My biggest issue with all of the mobile based device (iPad, iPod, Android based) remotes is the lack of hard buttons. When lying in bed I rarely had to look at the 9600. I could do 90% of TV adjusting using feel alone.

Ditto that! I would like a knob with a momentary switch built in. I added this to my old touchscreens. Beats using a mouse or trackball for simple level adjustments. But I guess we will never see that on an Apple product. They seem to like the idea of a clean flat surface and use the touchscreen for everything. I'm a bit surprised they don't reserve a portion of the screen no app programmer can ever use for their home button!
post #1623 of 8399
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Originally Posted by Valdhor View Post

You need to log into gmail. The builder uses your gmail account to authenticate you. If there is a conflict between the email address you bought with and your gmail account, contact iRule support and they will sync everything up for you (This happened to me and was fixed VERY quickly).

From the buy now page at iruleathome:
Warning: the iRule Builder uses a Google account (Gmail) to log in. Make sure that you complete your purchase of the iRule Builder license using your Gmail email account. Your Gmail account will be your username and password to log into the iRule Builder.

I had to create a Google account when I purchased and am currently logged in when I go to the builder page. It still shows me the TRY or BUY options and the time is counting down on the TRY for 14 days counter.

????

Thanks
Rew
post #1624 of 8399
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Originally Posted by Rew452 View Post


I had to create a Google account when I purchased and am currently logged in when I go to the builder page. It still shows me the TRY or BUY options and the time is counting down on the TRY for 14 days counter.

????

Thanks
Rew

If I remember correctly I think they originally linked my license to the email account that was linked to my paypal account that I used for payment and that was not my gmail account. Maybe you're in the same case? I just contacted support and they switched my license to the correct account.
post #1625 of 8399
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

But the iPad is physically bigger than the Philips pronto 9600 and for that matter the 9800 so I guess I don't understand (or did I misread and you are referring to the iPad's size?).

My theater still runs on the Pronto 9800. I use the iPad more as an exploratory tool and am really waiting for version 2.0 with 2-way comms.

My biggest issue with all of the mobile based device (iPad, iPod, Android based) remotes is the lack of hard buttons. When lying in bed I rarely had to look at the 9600. I could do 90% of TV adjusting using feel alone.

How do you guys deal with the initial "Pickup" action. Meaning, with a remote like the 9600... I pick it up, the sensor kicks on the backlight and I am ready to go. No home button to push to wake it up, no swipe required afterward etc. Since I don't own an iPad, can you just pick it up and have buttons at the ready or do you have to push the home button first? And for folks using a Touch same question.

Rayo
post #1626 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post

How do you guys deal with the initial "Pickup" action. Meaning, with a remote like the 9600... I pick it up, the sensor kicks on the backlight and I am ready to go. No home button to push to wake it up, no swipe required afterward etc. Since I don't own an iPad, can you just pick it up and have buttons at the ready or do you have to push the home button first? And for folks using a Touch same question.

Rayo

The Ipad stays right where you left it. I haven't found a way to set up a screen saver yet. It's not just the battery life, but in a dark theater the bright screen is a problem.
post #1627 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post

How do you guys deal with the initial "Pickup" action. Meaning, with a remote like the 9600... I pick it up, the sensor kicks on the backlight and I am ready to go. No home button to push to wake it up, no swipe required afterward etc. Since I don't own an iPad, can you just pick it up and have buttons at the ready or do you have to push the home button first? And for folks using a Touch same question.

Rayo

You can disable slidelock in the iRule app, however, you are left with a GUI that never shuts off, which leads to deminished battery life. Your only other option is to jailbreak your ipad and use Cydia's "screen dimmer" app. I'm sure there are other jailbroken apps, also.
post #1628 of 8399
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

OK, here's some food-for-thought. This is just a work-in-progress, but here's a first swag at a DirecTV RC32-style HR22 GUI for iRule...



After I played with it, I remembered I don't really even like the DirecTV remote that much, so I think the next set will be more generic in design, more Tivo-like, and part of a larger matching set.

SC

Can someone explain to me how I can take the above images and use them for my remote?
post #1629 of 8399
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Originally Posted by Valdhor View Post

It looks as though the Panasonic DMP-BD65 is not able to be controlled over the network. You'll have to use IR for it.

For the AppleTV I would recommend installing XBMC on it and using the HTTP control codes for XBMC. You can Google to find instructions for your particular model of AppleTV.

Thank you for the advice. I will try to install XMBC on appletv.
post #1630 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post

O.K. so I have to ask... I just started reading the 122 pages of this thread.

For those using the iPad... how do you like it as a remote??? I don't own one, but do I have an iPhone 4. I had a Pronto 9600 I really liked, but it was at what I felt was on the bigger end of what I wanted size wise in a remote.

For regular daily use, PVR watching etc. is the iPad really a suitable device?

For those using one, give me your thoughts!

Thanks,

Rayo

It's my only remote and much preferable to my wife's iPhone because there's so much more space for buttons.
post #1631 of 8399
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Originally Posted by lloydus View Post

It's my only remote and much preferable to my wife's iPhone because there's so much more space for buttons.

So then are you allowing iRule to keep the screen on all the time and if so, how long before you need a re-charge, or do you have an iPad dock somewhere close by to leave it in?
post #1632 of 8399
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Originally Posted by cboengrand View Post

Couls you elaborate a little bit on this approach?
I tried learning the 2 codes in 2 different buttons and then using a macro to combine them. It works but then it's really like pressing the button twice. For instance instead of channel 2 I get channel 22!
So I guess I don't know how to get the second code that does nothing (with the toggle bit in the 0 state as you put it).
Is there a logical way to address this from the Hex code?

Thanks

Any idea on how to emulate RC5, as I'm completely stuck here? I don't know how to create a zero code...

Thanks
post #1633 of 8399
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Originally Posted by ohotos View Post

If I remember correctly I think they originally linked my license to the email account that was linked to my paypal account that I used for payment and that was not my gmail account. Maybe you're in the same case? I just contacted support and they switched my license to the correct account.

Thanks!
All is well now. It seems thats what happened to me as well.
Contacted support and they got it set right now.

Rew
post #1634 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post

So then are you allowing iRule to keep the screen on all the time and if so, how long before you need a re-charge, or do you have an iPad dock somewhere close by to leave it in?

You get around 10 hours of use out of the iPad before it needs a charge (I just plug it in every night just before going to bed whether it needs it or not) so unless you watch TV all day you won't run out.

In my case, I let the iPad sleep when not in use (Just press the sleep button) and turn it on when required. It only takes a few seconds to turn it on and get back to where you were before and you can anticipate when it will be needed. About the only time I use the original Direct TV remote is when a call comes in and I need to pause quickly.

Hmmm. I wonder if I could place a button on the coffee table hooked up to a Insteon contact sensor that my iMac could monitor and then send the pause command to the DTV box? Now THAT could work.
post #1635 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post

How do you guys deal with the initial "Pickup" action.

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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

Your only other option is to jailbreak your ipad and use Cydia's "screen dimmer" app. I'm sure there are other jailbroken apps, also.

+1 for jailbreak and screen dimmer. ever since i started using screen dimmer, and especially since it gained the ability to use the accelerometer, my irule experience has gotten worlds better. all i have to do is touch the screen or pick up the device and it comes back to life, unlocked, gateways connected, and ready to use. then after i don't touch the screen or move/shake the device for 20 seconds, the screen turns itself back off. when i first started with irule it was such a hassle every time i wanted to bump the volume a notch or two, to have to pick up device, press home button, slide to unlock, wait while gateways connect, and finally... adjust volume. now it's just pick up device, adjust volume. no different than with my harmony, or your pronto, or pretty much any other remote out there.
post #1636 of 8399
Couldn't find a specific answer to this question although it seems to have been asked in the past. Can iRule control the Verizon (Motorola) FIOS HD boxes via IP?

Verizon offers an iPhone/iPad app that allows you to do it over your Verizon Wi-Fi network thru the coax connection. This is fine but that's all I can control with the app and would have to go between that and iRule to control my system. I also DO NOT want to use ANY IR blasters.

Just curious if anyone is doing this.
post #1637 of 8399
Improvement suggestion:

When backing up an iRule configuration, the name given to the backup referrent is of the form "iRule Builder Backup Mar 9 2011, 5-28-37 PM.irl". The text portion "5-28-37 PM" looks like it represents the time stamp of the save. This entry was made at 12:28 PM. It would be nice if the title of the backup contain an understandable time stamp. Also an option to supply a name (to be used in lieu of or in addition to "iRule Builder Backup") would be appreciated
post #1638 of 8399
@absolootbs -

I like what you have done!

How would you recommend jailbreaking?

-many thanks!
post #1639 of 8399
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

...Also an option to supply a name (to be used in lieu of or in addition to "iRule Builder Backup") would be appreciated

You can type anything you want over the offered name. Is that not good enough?
post #1640 of 8399
I think you are confusing save with backup. What you say is correct for save, however it is not the way backup works. I know I can always change it after I save the backup referent. However it is not an important desire as you point out, But I would like the time of save (backup) to be a little more rational
post #1641 of 8399
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Originally Posted by absolootbs View Post

+1 for jailbreak and screen dimmer. ever since i started using screen dimmer, and especially since it gained the ability to use the accelerometer, my irule experience has gotten worlds better. all i have to do is touch the screen or pick up the device and it comes back to life, unlocked, gateways connected, and ready to use. then after i don't touch the screen or move/shake the device for 20 seconds, the screen turns itself back off. when i first started with irule it was such a hassle every time i wanted to bump the volume a notch or two, to have to pick up device, press home button, slide to unlock, wait while gateways connect, and finally... adjust volume. now it's just pick up device, adjust volume. no different than with my harmony, or your pronto, or pretty much any other remote out there.

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Originally Posted by jwa1d62 View Post

@absolootbs -

I like what you have done!

How would you recommend jailbreaking?

-many thanks!

I agree! This sounds amazing! When I had a 1st gen iTouch I jailbroke it, but that device is long gone now. Care to share the process?
post #1642 of 8399
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

I am not sure if denon uses straight TCP on 23 (IIRC it does) or an HTTP protocol.If it uses HTTP then suspect it may be one of the HTTP clauses that irule uses to talk to the denon. Also they may be using HTTP 1.1 or HTTP 1.0. IIRC HTTP 1.0 will close the connection after each message whiel HTTP 1.1 will leave it open (connected) In http 1.1 there is a clause to cause the server (the denon) to close the connection or leave it open.

If someone could sniff out what the denon IP app does vs the iRule app, I am sure the issue can be resolved.

If it is TCP on port 23 then Denon will do what it wants a usual. Port 23 is normally the telnet port but a lot of mfg's use it without establishing a Telnet session. I wonder what would happen if you sent a telnet close or disconnect command to the denon. Would it then accept another device connecting. If so then every command sequence (single or macro) could end with a disconnect.

Thanks Barry. I'd be happy to do any testing that can be suggested but have no idea what's involved. I'm an applications engineer for an electronics company and can follow instructions. I have Mac, Linux and Windows machines on my network.

Some more information. Navigating to a panel that contains a Denon network command causes iRule to connect to the Denon Gateway. At that point a 2nd iRule remote can not connect to the gateway. If the 1st remote is navigated to another panel that does not contain a Denon command it doesn't release the gateway. I have to shut down the iRule app at which point a 2nd remote can connect to the gateway.
post #1643 of 8399
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

Improvement suggestion:

When backing up an iRule configuration, the name given to the backup referrent is of the form "iRule Builder Backup Mar 9 2011, 5-28-37 PM.irl". The text portion "5-28-37 PM" looks like it represents the time stamp of the save. This entry was made at 12:28 PM. It would be nice if the title of the backup contain an understandable time stamp. Also an option to supply a name (to be used in lieu of or in addition to "iRule Builder Backup") would be appreciated

The time stamp is on the server's time zone not necessarily on the timezone of the user. You can always edit the name of the file without any damage to the contents of the backup file.
post #1644 of 8399
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Originally Posted by fsrenduro View Post

Couldn't find a specific answer to this question although it seems to have been asked in the past. Can iRule control the Verizon (Motorola) FIOS HD boxes via IP?

Verizon offers an iPhone/iPad app that allows you to do it over your Verizon Wi-Fi network thru the coax connection. This is fine but that's all I can control with the app and would have to go between that and iRule to control my system. I also DO NOT want to use ANY IR blasters.

Just curious if anyone is doing this.

Verizon is currently not sharing their IP protocol with third party developers. Until these companies understand that they can benefit more by opening up (some already do such as Directv) there is little we can do other than support whatever protocols they do have open.
post #1645 of 8399
Bwade913,

Go over to remotecentral.com, the Pronto PRO forums and try and get in contact with Lyndel McGee. Send him a PM. Tell him I recommended you talk to him. He is fairly expert with Denon and their protcols and can probably help more than I can. I am sure he knows why the Denon locks up when a session is started. What I find interesting is that there are apps that can simultaneously talk to the Denon from different iPad/iPod devices, but iRule can't. iRule is missing something.

Since you have a Denon, you might want to use something like wireshark (freeware sniffer) to see what the traffic is like. Wireshark runs on a PC. What you need to do is place the Denon and the wireshark PC on the same hub, not a switch, so they both see the traffic from the Ipad/iPod. The wireshark can then be set to show the traffic for port 23 and the messages that the Denon sees will be visible. You can then compare what happens when I rule talks to the Denon vs some other app that does not have the lockout issue. The messages should all be in plain ascii text.

If I had a Denon unit I would try and help you but I don't
post #1646 of 8399
Thanks iTai.

That implies that the servers are 5 hours later in time, or they are running on GMT. I suspect the later. If they are running on GMT then why not convert the GMT time to local time, and punctuate the time field like a time field? (I guess I am getting picky)
post #1647 of 8399
Looking for help with iRule, I just bought my second iTach device for Theater, how do I use all of the screens I created for my Time Warner Cable box in my family room, for the same cable box in the theater?

Thanks for any help!
post #1648 of 8399
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Originally Posted by cubesys View Post

Verizon is currently not sharing their IP protocol with third party developers. Until these companies understand that they can benefit more by opening up (some already do such as Directv) there is little we can do other than support whatever protocols they do have open.

Thanks for the info
post #1649 of 8399
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Originally Posted by xtoyz View Post

Can someone explain to me how I can take the above images and use them for my remote?

You could simply save them as images, import them as backgrounds and try to map invisible buttons over them. You might have some difficulty aligning the buttons precisely with the images, as the granularity of iRule is somewhat coarse.
post #1650 of 8399
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Originally Posted by RayoVac329 View Post


So then are you allowing iRule to keep the screen on all the time and if so, how long before you need a re-charge, or do you have an iPad dock somewhere close by to leave it in?

iPad will go for at least two days without a recharge for me but I usually recharge it overnight back up to 100%
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