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post #1831 of 9755
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

I have a WRT54G router and although I'm not very network/IP savvy, isn't this where you manage static IP addresses/leases/assignments?

It is where you create the 'window' for static addresses. Note the Starting IP Address. You create a larger address reserving places for your static addresses below.

With the WRT54G I am not aware of a facility to manage the addresses so I just use a text file for that making sure I stay out of the range locked out from this screen.

So if you set the above address to 192.168.1.120 you could have 20 static ip addresses you could dispense starting at 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.119
post #1832 of 9755
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Originally Posted by xtoyz View Post


Everybody loves Raymond?!?!? Can you post a little more info about the video integration? Looks pretty good man I like it!

What's wrong with everybody loves Raymond? Lol

I like all those older shows.

Anyway. I have a zavio video server in my structured wire box I the basement. Pretty much I took an RCA out of my comcast box down to the basement over one of my rg6 drops which goes to the video server. From the the video server is cat5 into my switch. It has a static I which I URL into irule and u get a pic. The video server is actually a one channel camera server. It is a pretty slick video server if one needed it for a camera. One of the cool settings is I can have diff resolution for mobile view vs computer view. The zavio was 350 I think. I know that might be alot for what I'm doing but I really like it and it was the only company I found that plays nice with mobile safari. What's cool Isfahan I add my hai setup in the house I can push that feed to the video keypads without any other hardware.

Again this is for visual feedback only. The pic isn't tv viewing smooth. We ate working with moving jpg's but it get the job done.
Jimi
post #1833 of 9755
I'm working with Global Cache's iLearn and at my wits end. I removed the circuit board from the iTachIP2R housing as a gent suggested at GC. I got two keys read but now nothing I do will register in iLearn. I have a powered IR slave unit at my desk and the LED lights up every time I press the controller's key, iLearn says it is connected to the iTach at the correct IP address (192.168.1.15) but nothing register in the lLearn window and I've pressed several numbers on the controller hundreds of time now with no luck. Any ideas?

This is a lot of of money to spend on a flaky design.



Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Rich
post #1834 of 9755
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Originally Posted by Rich Gibson View Post

I'm working with Global Cache's iLearn and at my wits end. I removed the circuit board from the iTachIP2R housing as a gent suggested at GC. I got two keys read but now nothing I do will register in iLearn. I have a powered IR slave unit at my desk and the LED lights up every time I press the controller's key, iLearn says it is connected to the iTach at the correct IP address (192.168.1.15) but nothing register in the lLearn window and I've pressed several numbers on the controller hundreds of time now with no luck. Any ideas?

This is a lot of of money to spend on a flaky design.



Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Rich

Most here would agree, the IR learner built into the iTach leaves little to be desired. It needs to be improved on, big time.

With that, the leaning ability of the iTach can be greatly improved upon by the user. Two things will make a huge difference between success and failure.

1. It is essential that there is as little ambient light in the room as possible. Absolute darkness is best.

2. Make sure the remote you are learning from has brand new batteries.
post #1835 of 9755
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

Instructions for setting up a static IP address are on page 81-82 of the users operating manual. Have your TV on so you can see the receiver's GUI. Start by pressing Receiver then Home on the remote and navigate to the network setup screen. (System Setup, Network Setup) The rest should be obvious.

Barry, I guess it's not obvious enough for me because I don't get it
It seems the only way to change the ip address is by switching DHCP to OFF.
It gave me a blank canva and since I have no clue I just copied everything from the page with DHCP set to ON.
Here's what I entered:
IP Address: 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Primary DNS Server: 209.18.47.61
Enable Proxy Server: 209.18.47.62
Enable Proxy Server: ON

The result? If the receiver is ON, I can control it with iRule but if it's turned OFF, iRule doesn't find the gateway... What am I doing wrong?
post #1836 of 9755
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Originally Posted by ArieS1204 View Post

Barry, I guess it's not obvious enough for me because I don't get it
It seems the only way to change the ip address is by switching DHCP to OFF.
It gave me a blank canva and since I have no clue I just copied everything from the page with DHCP set to ON.
Here's what I entered:
IP Address: 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Primary DNS Server: 209.18.47.61
Enable Proxy Server: 209.18.47.62
Enable Proxy Server: ON

The result? If the receiver is ON, I can control it with iRule but if it's turned OFF, iRule doesn't find the gateway... What am I doing wrong?

What kind of receiver? If it's a Denon, then you need to configure it for standby mode. In standby mode, the receiver never completely shuts off - the network interface will stay on and can respond to commands. With the default, as-shipped setting, "off" means "off" and of course iRule can't find the gateway- because the receiver is O F F!

Receiver off has nothing to do with DHCP off. It seems you may be confusing the two. Yes, if DHCP is turned on, you can't manually set the IP address, because the whole point of DHCP is to obtain an address automatically.
post #1837 of 9755
It's the Pioneer VSX-1120-K
post #1838 of 9755
I'll check if there's an option for network standby when I get home.
post #1839 of 9755
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

Most here would agree, the IR learner built into the iTach leaves little to be desired. It needs to be improved on, big time.

With that, the leaning ability of the iTach can be greatly improved upon by the user. Two things will make a huge difference between success and failure.

1. It is essential that there is as little ambient light in the room as possible. Absolute darkness is best.

2. Make sure the remote you are learning from has brand new batteries.

The closet helped a bit however it didn't solve the problem. It still doesn't satisfactorily read IR signals. At best it appears to be capturing only partial signals or none at all. I finally captured a single button and then plugged the iTach output to my stack. Despite the #3 output LED glowing each time I pressed the controller using iLearn's 'Test IR' button nothing changed with the device. I tested the IR bulb to make sure it was working. This morning I couldn't even duplicate getting the iTach to read a single signal despite having taken off the outer case and then removing the board and using it with fresh batteries in a lightless closet. Nada. The controller I was trying to capture easily worked the device from over 12 feet away.

I have six or seven panels working so I know the process. If it continues to be this difficult I may regret ever spending this much money and especially, time. Global Cache's got to step up to the plate and do a lot more hand-holding and redesign if they hope to make this device more successful. You can't just throw the user under the bus and expect them to disassemble the device to try to make it work. However both iRule and GC have produced products with their share of issues. What is needed is a re-redesigned AND TESTED iTach with a better learner and replacement of any failing in the field.

I'm also using iRed2 for my Elgato EyeTV HD and it's another product with an extremely steep learning curve. Their editor uses a variant of the compressed Global Cache' format but I can't move forward unless the ferschluggener IR learner cooperates.

Rich
post #1840 of 9755
I'm following (or trying to do it) this thread from the beginning. I'm very interested in Irule, but 2-ways capability is very important for me. Do we have good news concerning Irule 2.0? It seems there wasn't any news since last post from barry & Itai months ago. Isn't it?

Thanks a lot,
post #1841 of 9755
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Originally Posted by byron69 View Post

I'm following (or trying to do it) this thread from the beginning. I'm very interested in Irule, but 2-ways capability is very important for me. Do we have good news concerning Irule 2.0? It seems there wasn't any news since last post from barry & Itai months ago. Isn't it?

Thanks a lot,

We have not heard anything for awhile on this.
post #1842 of 9755
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Originally Posted by Aesculus View Post

We have not heard anything for awhile on this.

Yes... what is the future of iRule ?
Is a version 2 available soon ?
post #1843 of 9755
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

Uh oh, trouble on the home front. I just tried to visit iRule's website and it says the account has been suspended. I hope this is temporary.

Our traffic overloaded our usage quota... by a lot! We are migrating the web site to a new hosting company that can better handle the increased traffic. This has nothing to do with the Builder since it is built on completely different hardware and platform with Google.
post #1844 of 9755
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Originally Posted by cubesys View Post

Our traffic overloaded our usage quota... by a lot! We are migrating the web site to a new hosting company that can better handle the increased traffic. This has nothing to do with the Builder since it is built on completely different hardware and platform with Google.

Glad to hear that iRule is still going strong. I love my setup and it works flawlessly.
post #1845 of 9755
Yep ! Could you tell us more about evolution of the product ?

2Way communication ?
Off line builder ?
Gauge icon ?
other feature... ?

Thanks in advance for the excellent work you do !
post #1846 of 9755
Does anyone know if I can use address 1 remote codes with some modification (is the remote address is contained in each hex command)?
My system uses different addresses for each box.
Or do I simply have to learn the commands for addresses 2,3 and 4....?
post #1847 of 9755
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Originally Posted by jtara View Post

What kind of receiver? If it's a Denon, then you need to configure it for standby mode. In standby mode, the receiver never completely shuts off - the network interface will stay on and can respond to commands. With the default, as-shipped setting, "off" means "off" and of course iRule can't find the gateway- because the receiver is O F F!

Receiver off has nothing to do with DHCP off. It seems you may be confusing the two. Yes, if DHCP is turned on, you can't manually set the IP address, because the whole point of DHCP is to obtain an address automatically.

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Originally Posted by ArieS1204 View Post

I'll check if there's an option for network standby when I get home.

Ok, found the option, it works.
Thanks a lot jtara!
post #1848 of 9755
aerieS1204,

The only thing that concerns me now is the static IP address you chose. If I understand what you said it was the address assigned when you had DHCP turned on. If that is correct you may have a potential issue. The static address you assign MUST NOT be in the range used by the DHCP Process to assign addresses. It will work okay until the DHCP process attempts to assign an address it believes it controls to a device requesting a address via DHCP. If It assigns the address used by the Pioneer as a static IP then you have an issue in that there will be 2 devices with the same IP address.
post #1849 of 9755
Project_X,

Depends on the remote and the manufacturer. Either there is a field in the protocol for the unit number or as Sony generally does it the device address changes, which in many cases ends up being the same.

For example the Sony BR mega-changers, IIRC, have a device code of 128 (80 hex) for unit 0, 129 (hex 81) for unit 1, . . .
post #1850 of 9755
Rich Gibson,

What is the remote and can you send me any samples of what was learned in Pronto Hex format? If so I will try and help you. I use my own system to learn or synthesize a remote's IR patterns
post #1851 of 9755
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

Rich Gibson,

What is the remote and can you send me any samples of what was learned in Pronto Hex format? If so I will try and help you. I use my own system to learn or synthesize a remote's IR patterns

Global cache' is going to take my remotes and generate the codes for the keys I needed. One is an HDMI switch controller with 7 commands: 1,2,3,4,5 left arrow, and right arrow. The other is a Scientific Atlanta 8000 series volume up, volume down and mute. As has already been asked, I use two cable boxes. Often one is being used to record programs so I want to watch the other box on an upstairs TV. I need to be able to control the lower box's volume from upstairs on my iPhone/iPad. The iRule command library does not include these three commands.

Thanks for your offer of help. I should have contacted you sooner offline.

Rich
post #1852 of 9755
I can give you the commands for the SA 8000 series. I have them for all of the units. In my theater there are two units so I ran into the problem a long time ago. Let me know if you need them


OOPS, I spoke to fast. I have the SA 8300HD units. According to my notes (It Pays to look) there are not multiple unit codes. I use the same codes for both units. However I do drive them off of different ports of the iTach, and carefully tape over the emitters so IR energy from unit 0 can not be seen by unit 1 and vice versa. In your case that would be unnecessary if the units are in different rooms. Just drive the units off of different iTach IR ports and set up the irule files appropriately. Perhaps SA (or Cisco) changed what they were doing but I don't think so.
post #1853 of 9755
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

Project_X,

Depends on the remote and the manufacturer. Either there is a field in the protocol for the unit number or as Sony generally does it the device address changes, which in many cases ends up being the same.

For example the Sony BR mega-changers, IIRC, have a device code of 128 (80 hex) for unit 0, 129 (hex 81) for unit 1, . . .

To be fair, I haven't actually found the hex for address 1 of the remotes. I did however come across a file for URC remotes for addresses 1 thru 5. Is it possible to convert that for iRule?
post #1854 of 9755
I am not that familiar with what URC does so I cannot say. Whose remote is it?
post #1855 of 9755
Dish TV/Expressvu remote
post #1856 of 9755
iRule is quite a nice product. I have pretty much gotten a 1.0 version of my system up and going, just waiting for one more part.

I've read through most of this forum, as well as searched it, hoping to find answers to my remaining questions. I haven't, so here goes...

1) About 6 months ago, there was a brief discussion about trying to integrate Lutron RA2 into the system. Lutron's integration protocol uses telnet with a username/password. I don't want to query states - merely send some commands after that. Not entirely sure how to set this up in iRule. What would probably be simplest is if there was a way to have every command login and also logoff. I'm not worried about the performance of this as there are only a couple of commands that I need to send. Thoughts?

2) I have a few devices that are internet enabled - Pioneer 1020-K, Sony Blu-ray BDP-S370, Sony KDL55-NX810 - but it seems there is not a supported way to use them as a gateway device, just IR. The Pioneer has been discussed here and it seems that only the 1120 is supported. The blu-ray player is surprising since it seems that iMaster Control lists support on their site. As for the TV, I simply want to be able to turn it on/off via the network. Lacking that capability, my plan "B" is to send IR from my media cabinet back to my living room via an unused RG59 cable (and I'm waiting for some f->3.5mm plugs from monoprice). Thoughts?

Thanks
post #1857 of 9755
arnobarno

Are you sure the pioneer 1020 is network enabled? I know the 1120 is but I do not think the 1020 is. If it is the codes are the same as the codes for the Pioneer 1120. The pioneer custom installer docs do not show the 1020 as being IP enabled.

My experience is that in the absence of 2-way communications IR can be as reliable as direct IP connectivity and generally less of a hassle
post #1858 of 9755
Pretty sure that this has been answered before but just couldn't find it (also looked at the faq's on the iRule website - cubesys, you might want to add this as a faq). What is the maximum number of rows and columns in the Builder for the iTouch and iPad?

Brian
post #1859 of 9755
Barry,
The reason I say it is network enabled is that I have an ethernet cable plugged into it and I can use an app on my iPad to control it - iControlAV. I believe that the second generation of this app doesn't work - you need the 1120.
EDIT: Only the 1021 works with the new iControlAV2.

FWIW, the Sony bluray player also has an app that allows you to control it (Media Remote).
arn
post #1860 of 9755
If you download the TCP Explorer app from my web site it will generate the iRule device file needed to control the 1120 over IP. You can try it with the 1020. See what it does.

With rgeard to the sony you need to get the IP spec document and then you will be in business. The Sony IP protocol is a little complocated but with the correct Protocol document it can be generated.
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