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post #3511 of 8455
I have the free evaluation version of ibulder. None of the Database Codes will transmit IR. Only Hex or Global Cache codes transmit. Is this a problem or do I just need to buy the full version? Obviously cant buy until the website is back up.

Thoughts?
post #3512 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaz66 View Post

I have the free evaluation version of ibulder. None of the Database Codes will transmit IR. Only Hex or Global Cache codes transmit. Is this a problem or do I just need to buy the full version? Obviously cant buy until the website is back up.

Thoughts?

Trial or full version should not matter. Only limit is number of panels and image/devices uploads.


Alex
post #3513 of 8455
Alex,

When I drag the Database code to a button in one of the panels it is no longer greyed out. However in the "code" field it simply shows "database code" and the respective button does not transmit IR. I have no problems if i drag and drop either a Global Cache or Hex code.

I'm using a GC-100-6, and Iphone4.

Any idea why it would not show the code and/or not transmit IR?

Chaz
post #3514 of 8455
The website is back up and us Aussies are no longer being redirected to the local purchase site. Hopefully it remains that way but if any Aussies want to buy a licence I would buy now to be sure.

It would be good to get iRule's official stance on this matter though.

Cheers
Pat.
post #3515 of 8455
Not waiting for it to change - purchased the license tonight!!!

Michael
post #3516 of 8455
I have a Panasonic plasma type TH37PV70. I can't get it to work with the codes from the database. None of the codes I find on the internet work. Learning the codes through the iTach is notoriously difficult and hasn't worked until now, neither.
Does anyone on this forum by chance have the same tv? Does anyone have some advice? Thanks!
post #3517 of 8455
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Originally Posted by Nosoforos View Post

I have a Panasonic plasma type TH37PV70. I can't get it to work with the codes from the database. None of the codes I find on the internet work. Learning the codes through the iTach is notoriously difficult and hasn't worked until now, neither.
Does anyone on this forum by chance have the same tv? Does anyone have some advice? Thanks!

It sounds like you might not have your emitter positioned just right. To say that all the codes and the learner have failed, points to something else. When i was learning the codes for my panny i had to retry the learning process until i got the right string length in the learner. I kept a text fle open. Then copy, pasted, and labeled each command. Visually this helped to detect fragmented captures. Stick with 1-3 commands try and try again to capture using learner. Enter the codes in the appropriate fields (hex vs gc) in builder. Try using a blaster to test.
post #3518 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaz66 View Post

When I drag the Database code to a button in one of the panels it is no longer greyed out. However in the "code" field it simply shows "database code" and the respective button does not transmit IR.

Database codes are never shown, so that part is normal. Don't know why it doesn't transmit though.
post #3519 of 8455
Need a little newbie hardware guidance. Equipment to control in rack. Marantz AV 7005 preamp, HTPC (meda center/IMON), Oppo DV 980A (SA-CD/DVD-A) Vudu Box (will probably replace with BD/Vudu 3D). Also across the room I have a projector JVC HD10 now but replacing with a Sony HW30 (soon as available). Flexibility to add more devices.

Can I get by with a 100-6 and would I also need a GC-BL2? Would also need a Dual IR emitter too (does the 100-6 come with 3 single IR emitters?). So is this a complete hardware list I would need to start?

100-06 $130
GC-BL2 $45
Dual IR Emitter $12

EDIT: after recounting it looks like I would need 2 Dual IR Emitters and 4 devices in the rack would be the max?
post #3520 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaz66 View Post

Alex,

When I drag the Database code to a button in one of the panels it is no longer greyed out. However in the "code" field it simply shows "database code" and the respective button does not transmit IR. I have no problems if i drag and drop either a Global Cache or Hex code.

I'm using a GC-100-6, and Iphone4.

Any idea why it would not show the code and/or not transmit IR?

Chaz

Hi Chaz,

Database Codes you will not be able to see at all. They are hidden for a reason. What is the name of the device that you are trying to use that has the database code that doesn't work for you?


Alex
post #3521 of 8455
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Originally Posted by edgemonster View Post

It sounds like you might not have your emitter positioned just right. To say that all the codes and the learner have failed, points to something else. When i was learning the codes for my panny i had to retry the learning process until i got the right string length in the learner. I kept a text fle open. Then copy, pasted, and labeled each command. Visually this helped to detect fragmented captures. Stick with 1-3 commands try and try again to capture using learner. Enter the codes in the appropriate fields (hex vs gc) in builder. Try using a blaster to test.

Actually, I have to say that I did get some commands working by learning them through the iTach, but I don't know how to make the power toggle work... All the things I tried failed, and without the option to turn my tv on, the other codes have little use
post #3522 of 8455
Two things

1) I am more than willing to look at any hex patterns that do not work. You can email them to me at the address in my profile. What I want/need is a single text file per component. The file should contain the name of the hex pattern (the name of the button e.g. Power On, Power Toggle, Volume Up, . . . ) and then the full hex pattern as learned. Indicate if the pattern works or does . Put this as a comment after the name in parens e.g.

Power On (not Working)
0000 0067 0022 0000 . . .

Power Toggle(Working)
0000 0067 0022 0000 . . .
and so on.

Unfortunately without the actual components I can not test them. If you are desperate send me the remote as I have special software for learning patterns from a remote. I will send it back to you when I have played with it, hopefully with a full set of hex patterns. Contact me before sending a remote!!

The more patterns, for the same component, you send me the better I will be able to decode what is going on and perhaps help you out. I have special software I use to reverse engineer the patterns. No guarantees, and I do it when I have free time or am bored.

2) I have updated the profile on my web site (www.the-gordons.net - Barry's Profile). It now covers the most recent events in my life. It also includes a picture for those who wonder who what I look like. Even better, it includes pictures of my current GF from her modeling days.

I was very flattered at a Cedia show when some one came over to me at the Philips Pronto exhibit and introduced himself. he was from Australlia. He wanted to meet me because there was a rumor that I did not exist and really was a Pronto employee.
post #3523 of 8455
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Originally Posted by michaelp2005 View Post

Not waiting for it to change - purchased the license tonight!!!

Michael

Good thing you did because the redirection is back in place today.

Cheers
Pat.
post #3524 of 8455
Got it working. I'm an idiot. I had multiple instances of the device, and the IR emitter set for only one. I deleted the "extra" instance of the device and reassigned the keys. All working normally now!

Great APP!!!!!!

cheers,

Chaz
post #3525 of 8455
For the aussies that are being redirected, I know one thing that has a 2 hour free trial account with a VPN connection where you can choose Canada, UK or US based servers so your connection looks like from there and maybe you won't be redirected. I tried a couple times for tv shows episodes (CBS, SHO) and it worked for me really well (I live in Colombia so I don't get acces to see those reaplays because I'm not in US). It'easy to setup.
www.cienen.com
Those are my 2 cents, hope it helps!
post #3526 of 8455
Hello:

I have started a project after purchasing a home that included a ZPR68-10 pre-amp and PA1235 Amp, along with speakers throughout the house. Previously these were controlled under a Premise system, but I am moving to iRule. My daughter is helping me out in order to learn and help make progress while I am at the office.

We have an IP2SL on the network and connected via RS-232 to the ZPR68. iRule app running on iPhone4 finds the gateway. In the builder we have added the Xantech ZPR68-10 device. I believe Zellarman uploaded these and he has been a help in getting us started.

Does the gateway name need to be the same on two different iphones? (yes, the IP address is the same of course)

The main issue (oldest question in the book) is that after adding a test command in a panel and then syncing, we get the "Failed to connect to gateways!". I have read through quite a number of posts, but am still not clear as to the possible causes of this. Is this because the gateway is not communicating properly with the device or can I simply not communicate with the gateway itself?

Once we get past this, should we be able to get pretty far just adding the "database codes" to the interface? I don't know how to see the underlying commands...do we need to?

If anyone has specific experience with the ZPR68-10 I would appreciate knowing that for future reference and questions.

- Steve
post #3527 of 8455
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Originally Posted by pat911 View Post

Good thing you did because the redirection is back in place today.

Cheers
Pat.

That's unbelievable. So, I've got to say thanks to you Pat, otherwise I wouldn't have known about the short window. Have the builder up and running now after super quick response from irule on converting my paypal email to my gmail account. I also purchased an itach as it was easy

Michael
post #3528 of 8455
Can you control the Marantz AV7005 preamp through RS-232? Also I have (will have) a Sony HW30 projector with has a RS-232. Would I be better off running a serial cable to the projector or using an IR blaster?

Does RS-232 offer more, less or the same control as IR? Is it easer, harder or about the same to set up RS-232 control on iRule?

If I have 2 RS-232 devices should I buy the GC-100-12

Also is an HTPC controlled by IR or over the network/ethernet?
post #3529 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by William View Post

Can you control the Marantz AV7005 preamp through RS-232? Also I have (will have) a Sony HW30 projector with has a RS-232. Would I be better off running a serial cable to the projector or using an IR blaster?

Does RS-232 offer more, less or the same control as IR? Is it easer, harder or about the same to set up RS-232 control on iRule?

If I have 2 RS-232 devices should I buy the GC-100-12

Also is an HTPC controlled by IR or over the network/ethernet?

Hi William,

Main advantage of RS232 or IP control is 2-way feedback. Additionally, for projectors, RS232 OFF command only needs to be sent once vs OFF-OFF via IR.

HTPC is controlled via TCP/IP via network.


Alex
post #3530 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Hi William,

Main advantage of RS232 or IP control is 2-way feedback. Additionally, for projectors, RS232 OFF command only needs to be sent once vs OFF-OFF via IR.

HTPC is controlled via TCP/IP via network.


Alex

Thanks Alex,

So I would be probably better 'bitting the bullet' and getting the 100-12 for 2 RS-232 ports and forgo the IR blaster?
post #3531 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by William View Post

Thanks Alex,

So I would be probably better 'bitting the bullet' and getting the 100-12 for 2 RS-232 ports and forgo the IR blaster?

Your Marantz is actually IP controllable according to Marantz website. So just plug it into the router/switch with no need for GC hookup. So you may actually just need GC-100 6 with 1 rs232 for your PJ and 6 IR connections.


Alex
post #3532 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Your Marantz is actually IP controllable according to Marantz website. So just plug it into the router/switch with no need for GC hookup. So you may actually just need GC-100 6 with 1 rs232 for your PJ and 6 IR connections.


Alex

Thanks agian Alex (careful you may have to adopt me),

I posted on the AV7005 thread asking about RS-232 and Ethernet control. I don't have the AV7005 yet and I want to be sure I order the best iRule/Global Cache hardware for my needs. Hopefully there are some AV7005/iRule users who can advise me on which works best (or if they are the same).
post #3533 of 8455
For all the Ocker's (And Kiwi's) who want to get a license for iRule, I could buy the license for you and you can pay me with Paypal. I'm not looking to make a profit. I buy for US$50 and you pay me $50. Of course, if Paypal wants to charge extra...

I am an ex-pat Kiwi living in North Carolina. I also lived in Cromer, NSW (One suburb over from Dee Why in Sydney) for eight years.

I know the pain you are going through - I lived through the same kind of thing. If I can give back in some way, I'm glad to do so. Just send me a PM and we can figure out the details.
post #3534 of 8455
When using devices with Ethernet command/remote capability is the Global Cache bypassed/not used and the device has it's own gateway to iRule? Does a HTPC/Media Center have it's own gateway too?

Hope I communicating this correctly since I don't have any of the equipment yet (did buy my iRule licenses to avoid any possible price increase in ver 2.x).

SIDE NOTE: Is iRule in Georgia (Atlanta)? I had to pay state sales tax.
post #3535 of 8455
The global cache or similar devices are not needed if the end device, the component you wish to control, has ethernet capability. The ethernet capability may be either http protocol based or pure TCP/IP. Many components implement telnet but in reality it is not telnet (the initial negotiations are not implemented) but rather raw TCP/IP using port 23
post #3536 of 8455
I bought the iLearner and can now transfer the HEX codes to iRule. So here's what I'm wondering, I noticed that there are commands in iRule that are Power On and Power Off not Power Toggle.

How do I figure out what Power On and Power Off are since they aren't on the Canon projector's remote?

Thanks.

M
post #3537 of 8455
I stumbled onto the iRule app and I'm trying to learn more about it, so have a couple of questions if anyone can answer

1. Does iRule only work with this Global Cache thing and IR blasters? Or can it be made to control devices like a network reciever, or a blu-ray player etc?

2. Thinking of purchasing the Sony ES model of their 400 disc blu-ray changer that has RS232. Hopefully iRule can control it?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide for a newbie!!
post #3538 of 8455
1. The Global Cache and IR blasters are called gateways. The iRule connects to the gateways which in turn sends the IR commands to your devices.
post #3539 of 8455
jsc1205,

iRule will work directly with any device that can be controlled and respond over a TCP/IP port.

Contact me re the Sony ES BluRay Changer. Send me a PM
post #3540 of 8455
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdhor View Post

For all the Ocker's (And Kiwi's) who want to get a license for iRule, I could buy the license for you and you can pay me with Paypal. I'm not looking to make a profit. I buy for US$50 and you pay me $50. Of course, if Paypal wants to charge extra...

I am an ex-pat Kiwi living in North Carolina. I also lived in Cromer, NSW (One suburb over from Dee Why in Sydney) for eight years.

I know the pain you are going through - I lived through the same kind of thing. If I can give back in some way, I'm glad to do so. Just send me a PM and we can figure out the details.

Excellent! That's mighty kind of you. As I said, I already have a licence but I'm sure others here will take you up on your offer.

Cheers
Pat.
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