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Originally Posted by Valdhor View Post

I'd like to know how you do this.

Also, how do you connect to the power line?

looking back a few posts, i believe he mentions using a 2412N (smartlinc). so he's using intermediate software, it's just that it's on a webserver thats embedded into his plm. or, i suppose he could be circumventing the web interface and using the "direct to plm" tcp port. but thats still only possible with a networked plm (ie. smartlinc).

only other way (that i've ever read about) to interface irule directly with insteon is to use a serial plm connected to a gc-100 or itach, and have irule send it the serial commands via the global cache's rs232's tcp port.

anything that involves a plm connected to a computer will require software in between, even if its just something like tcp2serial.
post #4772 of 8408
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post


I'm not sure about network control, but most of the LG TV models accept rs232 serial control from a port on the back making for a nice clean install with no emitter on the front.

Does the power on command work? I've heard some TV's don't power the serial port when in standby.
post #4773 of 8408
Just installed a 46" 7000 Samsung and I was able to hide the emitter on the back side of the bezel. The bezel is clear but you can't see the emitter. Works fine.

jc
post #4774 of 8408
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

I removed the bezel on my Samsung LCD and buried the emitter underneath the bezel at the receiving eye. It works great and it's completely invisible. I did the same thing with all of my IR components. Clean!!!!

Hi mborner,

that sounds like a clean solution!
How did you do this?
Did you remove the whole frame of your TV?
Would be greeat if you can give some more details!

Cheers Thomas
post #4775 of 8408
You are indeed correct I am using a 2412N as my interface. It fires out status messages anytime a change is made or on request.
I guess in theory you are right that it is using intermediate software, but as it all contained inside the Smartlinc 2412N in practical terms there is nothing else requred.
post #4776 of 8408
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Originally Posted by t_heinrich View Post

Hi mborner,

that sounds like a clean solution!
How did you do this?
Did you remove the whole frame of your TV?
Would be greeat if you can give some more details!

Cheers Thomas

Thomas, yes, I had to remove the entire bezel from the TV. It doesn't require any special tools or anything but be prepared to remove about 20 screws from the back cabinet.

Once the bezel is removed you will clearly see where the IR receiving eye is located. You may have to crack open the emitter and remove the emitter from the shell leaving you with an emitter that looks something like this;
Attachment 222274
click to enlarge

you'll want to fish the emitter end through a grille opening in the back of the TV cabinet and then route it to the receiving eye underneath the bezel. In my case, I taped the wire at various locations to make it neat, even though it can't be seen. I highly recommend that you test the operation of the emitter before putting your TV back together. It was a lot of work doing all of my components like this but the time and effort was worth it.
LL
post #4777 of 8408
@mborner: thanks for the details.
Really cool idea!!!
post #4778 of 8408
I have not seen this covered recently (I searched) so wasn't sure if the newest update to the iPad app allows the following, can someone answer this for me:

Can just an individual portion of a page be defined to use gestures, ie say the bottom right part of an ipad screen, while having other parts of the screen have other buttons/links/etc?

If not, how do you folks get around really dealing with a completely separate panel and having to navigate away from the "Activity" you're currently seeing on the ipad screen?

Thanks,
Rukus
post #4779 of 8408
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Originally Posted by Zellarman View Post


Does the power on command work? I've heard some TV's don't power the serial port when in standby.

Yes. LG manual contains all.commands for serial control. I have a 40" lcd and it powers on and off without issue. Also switches inputs, adjusts volume, etc.
post #4780 of 8408
Well that's a BIG positive for LG over Sony, I've always preferred Sony TV's but will have to give LG serious consideration for my next purchase.
post #4781 of 8408
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post


Yes. LG manual contains all.commands for serial control. I have a 40" lcd and it powers on and off without issue. Also switches inputs, adjusts volume, etc.

Rs232 codes for LG are already in the builder.
post #4782 of 8408
Can the LG tv be controlled via a 3.5 mm into the [remote] in? Not enough serial outs & I'd prefer to avoid the IR plug - 4 year old I'm the house.
post #4783 of 8408
Not sure what you're trying to say, if the TV has a 3.5 "remote in" then I can't imagine it being anything other than IR, in which case IR you want to hook up to it, you'll need a plug (can we assume you meant to say emitter)
post #4784 of 8408
Hey everyone. Just another reminder that I have setup a complete forum dedicated to iRule. We have 52 members now. However, the success of the forum will depend on using it and making it your own. I'm open to suggestions on how we can improve the forum and getting it hopping.

www.irulecommunity.com

Thanks,
Jeff
post #4785 of 8408
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Originally Posted by Zellarman View Post

Not sure what you're trying to say, if the TV has a 3.5 "remote in" then I can't imagine it being anything other than IR, in which case IR you want to hook up to it, you'll need a plug (can we assume you meant to say emitter)

I'm sorry. Pretty much a noob with all this iRule stuff but my wife can't figure out the Harmony remote ( I know ) and I was hoping iRule would be easier for her once set-up.

I have used IR repeaters in the past, but only with the stick-on emiters. I have a GC-100-12 on order & was hoping I could use one of the IR out ports on the GC to the [Remote in] on the LG. Hope this clarifies

My goal is to control a LG plasma & TBD projector for display devices; a Sony E9000ES for the TV & Denon 4802 for the theater; with sources switched via a Monoprice 4x2 Matrix (#6415) - HTPC, PS3, DISH & XBOX 360. I'm starting to think I might be in over my head.
post #4786 of 8408
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Originally Posted by jagphys90 View Post

Hey everyone. Just another reminder that I have setup a complete forum dedicated to iRule. We have 52 members now. However, the success of the forum will depend on using it and making it your own. I'm open to suggestions on how we can improve the forum and getting it hopping.

www.irulecommunity.com

Thanks,
Jeff

I joined the Forum. Any chance of getting a sub-forum on AVS? It would certainly be the most functional. I've joined many other forum communities in the past but always migrate back here.
post #4787 of 8408
I am thinking of getting an Apple TV 2. I searched this thread and think I know the answers to my questions but would be grateful if someone could confirm:

1) Is Apple TV 2 controllable by IP?
I think the answer is not - or not without major hacking.
2) Is there an device in the database or a user imported device that has those IP controls?
3) If the answer is yes to #1 is it http or network gateway and if http then what port?

Thanks much in advance.
post #4788 of 8408
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Originally Posted by lloydus View Post

I am thinking of getting an Apple TV 2. I searched this thread and think I know the answers to my questions but would be grateful if someone could confirm:

1) Is Apple TV 2 controllable by IP?
I think the answer is not - or not without major hacking.
2) Is there an device in the database or a user imported device that has those IP controls?
3) If the answer is yes to #1 is it http or network gateway and if http then what port?

Thanks much in advance.

AFAIK it is only IR-controllable.
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Axel
post #4789 of 8408
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

AFAIK it is only IR-controllable.
____
Axel

I would assume that is is capable of being IP controlled (eg the Remote app for iPhone/iPad that controls it) but my guess is that those are private IP commands and no one has replicated that yet.
post #4790 of 8408
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Originally Posted by JohnLew View Post

I would assume that is is capable of being IP controlled (eg the Remote app for iPhone/iPad that controls it) but my guess is that those are private IP commands and no one has replicated that yet.

yep, the infamous 'walled garden"....thanks Apple!
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Axel
post #4791 of 8408
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Originally Posted by JohnLew View Post


I would assume that is is capable of being IP controlled (eg the Remote app for iPhone/iPad that controls it) but my guess is that those are private IP commands and no one has replicated that yet.

That is sort of true. However, iTunes has to come out and play with the Remote App. The Apple TV 2 acts as an Airplay Client while the iTunes you are connected to is the Airplay server. Unlike the Airplay that is available pn the Marantz SR5006 an 6006 or on some of the Denom AVRs the Apple TV 2 will also support video, in the supported formats, that is associated with iTunes.

My Apple TV 2 HDMI connrction managed to come loose from my SR6006. I was looking for my Apple interface to appear on my TV and to my astonishment it appeared across the LAN on my computer.

There might be some IP control possibilites, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for Apple to reveal them. Hopefully, some one wiil havk them.

It would be nice to be able to include the functionality of the Remote App with in my iRule Control system. in the meantime I use IR to control my Apple TV 2 or drop out of iRule and go to the Remote App.
post #4792 of 8408
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Originally Posted by bentson View Post


I'm sorry. Pretty much a noob with all this iRule stuff but my wife can't figure out the Harmony remote ( I know ) and I was hoping iRule would be easier for her once set-up.

I have used IR repeaters in the past, but only with the stick-on emiters. I have a GC-100-12 on order & was hoping I could use one of the IR out ports on the GC to the [Remote in] on the LG. Hope this clarifies

My goal is to control a LG plasma & TBD projector for display devices; a Sony E9000ES for the TV & Denon 4802 for the theater; with sources switched via a Monoprice 4x2 Matrix (#6415) - HTPC, PS3, DISH & XBOX 360. I'm starting to think I might be in over my head.

Well, to start, set-up can take some time, even longer depending on how creative you want to get, but it's not rocket science, I'm sure you'll be able to swing it.

As far as the TV goes, if it has the 3.5 IR in, then I think you should be able to plug directly in.

Let us know how it goes.
post #4793 of 8408
Here is another Retina iPhone background that I just shared:

post #4794 of 8408
Hey guys newbie here. I got most everything working pretty easily and I am just totally amazed by the simplicity and the speed at which the commands work. With everything working I think with the iTach my ipad is faster than my IR remotes!

Anyway now I want to really customize. I have about the artistic capabilities of a 2 year old so my question is a couple about this:

1. Is there not an exit button and a back button? I see a arrow pointing backwards which I used and I am using the X from what I believe is the playstation buttons in the meantime.

2. I see blank buttons how can I place text over them?

3. Is there some public repository for sharing buttons? I see people say here is new "blank" I just shared?

Thanks so much!

Neil
post #4795 of 8408
Ok I found the image libraries (I think)! So this really cool!

Thanks,

Neil
post #4796 of 8408
I see that the apple tv might not be ip controllable but what about xbmc on apple tv2? I am think about getting the new version with the A5 cpu that should handle full 1080p.
you think that will work or will a ir still be necessary to start up xbmc etc?
post #4797 of 8408
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post
yep, the infamous 'walled garden"....thanks Apple!
____
Axel
Yes, the limitation is there and there is no third party IP control of AppleTV 2. However, to Apples credit, the "Remote" app is incredibly amazing. Full two-way control, sort by genre, song, movie, album, actor, artist, etc. It also includes a real-time search feature, full cover/album art, now playing, IMDB link, and much, much, more. It's fast, easy to set up, and the best part, its free!

I'm still using it in amazement. Yes, it would be nice if I didn't have to switch apps but Apple has really done a fantastic job, here.
post #4798 of 8408
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Originally Posted by jagphys90 View Post

Hey everyone. Just another reminder that I have setup a complete forum dedicated to iRule. We have 52 members now. However, the success of the forum will depend on using it and making it your own. I'm open to suggestions on how we can improve the forum and getting it hopping.

www.irulecommunity.com

Thanks,
Jeff

Very cool -- just registered and introduced myself
post #4799 of 8408
Spartan94

I saw that your using rs232 for your 6500ub. I just wanted to make sure that you saw my very complete rs232 code and feedback set that I shared under user devices in the builder. It has way more commands than the irule provided set including discreet memory selection.
post #4800 of 8408
Is anyone using the EZUIRT to control X10 devices with iRule? If so, are the extended codes in the irule builder already?

I've purchased an itach IP2IR gateway but, haven't bought the iRule yet. I would probably just have bought an IR543 but, since they're discontinued and can be as much as the EZUIRT, I'd rather go with that as it sounds like it can access all X10 house codes.

Am I on the right track with this? Thanks,

Dale
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