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post #6661 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

Have you tried the iTest app and sent some codes to it to see if it responds back? If the responses match the ones for the SR8001 then those codes should work. Otherwise, I'd say keep searching, or contact Marantz. Unless someone here has already figured it out.

I haven't tried that...is that on the iPhone? But, I did look up the RS232 codes on Marantz's website, and the 7001 codes seem to match up with the 8001 codes. I just got some F/F serial cable from Radio Shack...assumed that it was straight cable. Bugger.
post #6662 of 9753
I think I figured it out. Both the Marantz and the GC 100 have male serial connectors, so I think I need a null modem cable so that pins 2 and 3 crossover. Does this sound about right?
post #6663 of 9753
Even though the Marantz has a male connector I believe it uses a straight cable (use a male to female converter if you don't have the right cable). And make sure you set the GC-100 to the correct baud rate through its browser interface (9600 for the Marantz).
post #6664 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Even though the Marantz has a male connector I believe it uses a straight cable (use a male to female converter if you don't have the right cable). And make sure you set the GC-100 to the correct baud rate through its browser interface (9600 for the Marantz).

Yes, the documentation for the Marantz says to use a straight cable. The cable I got does not say straight or null -- I assumed it was straight. It is a female/female and connects both to the Marantz and the GC-100 correctly. I will try to correct the baud rate and see how that works. Thanks!

Edit: How do you connect to the browser interface for the GC-100 -- do you have to have the iHelp utility on your pc?
post #6665 of 9753
Update: changed the baud rate to 9600, and it does not work. In the GC-100 quick start guide, it says the following:

"..when connecting the GC-100 male serial connector to AV equipment that also uses a male DB9 connector pins 2 and 3 would need to crossover. Pin 2 on the GC-100 would connect to pin 3 on the AV device".

I guess I will try a null modem cable next and see what happens. Any other suggestions?
post #6666 of 9753
Arrgh, now getting frustrated with the GC-100. I tried setting up my Panasonic Blu-ray player with an emitter connected to the IR out port. The GC-100 is found on the network the iRule app. I add the gateway. I add the Blu-ray player. But then when I try to connect to the gateway, I get an error message.

I have changed the IP address to static in the browser config window. What am I missing? Maybe this is why the RS232 control is not working as well?
post #6667 of 9753
The iTest application can be downloaded from the iRule website. Run it on your PC and use it to connect to your GC-100. This will let you monitor the traffic as well as send direct commands so that you can see what is happening. Looks like someone already beat me to checking the baud rate. That was going to be my next suggestion.
post #6668 of 9753
Also, if you are using the iRule for android v1.3, the RS232 portion of that is not currently working for feedback. For control, it should work fine. Just an FYI.
post #6669 of 9753
Ok got the IR working for the GC-100. Had to change the IP address of the GC. But RS232 still not working. I have a null cable on order to
see if that works, and I'll try out iTest tomorrow..need a break!!
post #6670 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Ok got the IR working for the GC-100. Had to change the IP address of the GC. But RS232 still not working. I have a null cable on order to
see if that works, and I'll try out iTest tomorrow..need a break!!

Marantz uses straight cable.


Alex
post #6671 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Ok got the IR working for the GC-100. Had to change the IP address of the GC. But RS232 still not working. I have a null cable on order to
see if that works, and I'll try out iTest tomorrow..need a break!!

You might need to configure the RS232 settings using iHelp before it will work. I'm pretty sure I had to do that for my setup. Good luck. SJ
post #6672 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Marantz uses straight cable.


Alex

That's what the manual says, true. But the GC guide also says that you may need a crossover cable fo Tx and Rx pins if connecting to another male (which the Marantz is.

I also configured the RS232 settings with baud rate at 9600 as suggested, no flow control, parity off - no luck. So I figure it's worth three bucks to see if a null cable will work. I'm sure the GC will control the SR7001 over IR but I bought the dang thing to test out the RS232 connection so I'm gonna keep working on it.
post #6673 of 9753
I'm considering this app and have a couple of questions.

1. Does the WF2IR work as well as the IP2IR? I would assume it would and would be much easier for placement.

2. Where is the cheapest place to purchase the Global Cache Itach WF2IR? It's actually a little cheaper for purchase from the Roomie Remote site than it is from iRule or Amazon (Smarthome). Any other thoughts?
post #6674 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Ok got the IR working for the GC-100. Had to change the IP address of the GC. But RS232 still not working. I have a null cable on order to
see if that works, and I'll try out iTest tomorrow..need a break!!

If I remember correctly you may have to open network ports for the RS232 ports in iRule. Should be port 4999 for one of them and port 5000 for the other. Could be mistaken though, been awhile since I did this my self.
post #6675 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post


That's what the manual says, true. But the GC guide also says that you may need a crossover cable fo Tx and Rx pins if connecting to another male (which the Marantz is.

I also configured the RS232 settings with baud rate at 9600 as suggested, no flow control, parity off - no luck. So I figure it's worth three bucks to see if a null cable will work. I'm sure the GC will control the SR7001 over IR but I bought the dang thing to test out the RS232 connection so I'm gonna keep working on it.

I personally installed marantz avr for a customer and plain straight through cable to GC was all that I needed.


Alex
post #6676 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

I personally installed marantz avr for a customer and plain straight through cable to GC was all that I needed.


Alex

Gotcha. Well I'm only out a few bucks. How do you open RS232 ports in iRule?
post #6677 of 9753
Well, I dunno what I did but now it's working. Thanks for the suggestions!
post #6678 of 9753
RS232 feedback is now working. 1.3.1 is available in the app store!!! WOOHOOOOOOO!
post #6679 of 9753
I've got all of the Integra feedbacks working great but I'm looking for a specific feedback that i haven't seen or can't seem to find. I know it's possible because i can see it work on another app called "Oremote"

The Oremote will show what audio is coming in and what is being put out.
This example shows exactly what it will show:

Audio
IN: 2.0
OUT: 2.0
or
Audio
IN: 5.1
OUT: 7.2

My gear is in a closet and at times I can't tell if i'm outputting 5.2 or 7.2 as quickly as I'd like. Would be excellent to know as it changes. My XBMC is mostly where this is an issue of not knowing.

The "OUT: 2.0 . . . or 5.1 . . . or 7.2" is the main feedback i need. Does this exist or how could i go about finding/creating that feedback?
post #6680 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

I'm considering this app and have a couple of questions.

1. Does the WF2IR work as well as the IP2IR? I would assume it would and would be much easier for placement.

2. Where is the cheapest place to purchase the Global Cache Itach WF2IR? It's actually a little cheaper for purchase from the Roomie Remote site than it is from iRule or Amazon (Smarthome). Any other thoughts?

1: I don't know, but I assume it does ;-)
2: have a look at: http://www.remoteshoppe.com/
Kindly
Jan
post #6681 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by gogamer View Post

I've got all of the Integra feedbacks working great but I'm looking for a specific feedback that i haven't seen or can't seem to find. I know it's possible because i can see it work on another app called "Oremote"

The Oremote will show what audio is coming in and what is being put out.
This example shows exactly what it will show:

Audio
IN: 2.0
OUT: 2.0
or
Audio
IN: 5.1
OUT: 7.2

My gear is in a closet and at times I can't tell if i'm outputting 5.2 or 7.2 as quickly as I'd like. Would be excellent to know as it changes. My XBMC is mostly where this is an issue of not knowing.

The "OUT: 2.0 . . . or 5.1 . . . or 7.2" is the main feedback i need. Does this exist or how could i go about finding/creating that feedback?

IFA for that information about Audio, and IFV for that information about video.
post #6682 of 9753
Ok, I connected the RS232 that I had going to my Onkyo to my old Harman Kardon AVR347. It has an RS232 port with a switch that when out is for "command" and when in is for "upgrade". Setting the baud on my GC IP2SL to 115,200, i see serial data when I switch between HDMI inputs of "$.Macrovision.Detection.Disabled...N&.queue.overflow,.dumping.msg.=.%d._..". I see no other data, and no commands sent that match any other HK in the databases seems to do anything.

According to HK, "I am sorry we do not have a document with RS232 protocols and commands for the AVR 347. You can control the receiver’s functions using RS232 protocols through computer. The Harman Kardon products with bi-direction RS-232 control capability to a computer are AVR 635, AVR 630, AVR 435 and AVR 430 only."

The second sentence makes it sound like control is possible, but then the third sentence basically says if it isn't one of these models, then forget it!

So - I'm wondering if anyone else on here has been able to control a HK receiver with iRule? ...and how did you do it.

Thanks in advance!
post #6683 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

IFA for that information about Audio, and IFV for that information about video.

Sorry, I forgot to add some info for that... You must first send a query to the receiver for it to provide this information:

ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1IFAQSTN\\x0D
ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1IFVQSTN\\x0D

Those are the ones for the Onkyo - the Integra may only just need !1IFAQSTN and !1IFVQSTN.

You then listen for the IFA and IFV responces.

Here is an example for the source I'm currently watching:

Audio:
HDMI 3,Dolby D,48 kHz,5.1 ch,Dolby Digital EX,7.1 ch,

Video:
HDMI 3,1920 x 1080i 60 Hz,YCbCr,24 bit,HDMI Main,1920 x 1080i 60 Hz,YCbCr,24 bit,Direct,

Unfortunately, iRule doesn't let you parse portions of this data, so it is all or nothing.

I hope this helps! Sorry I was so cryptic on my last response. I've got about 4 projects going at once and I wanted to send something on that before I forgot to.
post #6684 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

Ok, I connected the RS232 that I had going to my Onkyo to my old Harman Kardon AVR347. It has an RS232 port with a switch that when out is for "command" and when in is for "upgrade". Setting the baud on my GC IP2SL to 115,200, i see serial data when I switch between HDMI inputs of "$.Macrovision.Detection.Disabled...N&.queue.overflow,.dumping.msg.=.%d._..". I see no other data, and no commands sent that match any other HK in the databases seems to do anything.

According to HK, "I am sorry we do not have a document with RS232 protocols and commands for the AVR 347. You can control the receiver's functions using RS232 protocols through computer. The Harman Kardon products with bi-direction RS-232 control capability to a computer are AVR 635, AVR 630, AVR 435 and AVR 430 only."

The second sentence makes it sound like control is possible, but then the third sentence basically says if it isn't one of these models, then forget it!

So - I'm wondering if anyone else on here has been able to control a HK receiver with iRule? ...and how did you do it.

Thanks in advance!

i believe where they said "can", they meant to say "can't". in other words, i believe their third sentence is the correct one. i have an avr-254 (the x54 and x47 series are very closely related) with the same serial port situation and in the research i did when i first bought the receiver, i read multiple things that said definitively that the serial port can't be used for control.

i do control my 254 with irule, but i do it using the 3.5mm ir direct in and the irule "harman kardon receiver/preamp all models" database ir codes
post #6685 of 9753
Bummer! While the control part is solved with your solution, that still leaves me with no feedback. I'm wanting to use it as my zone 2 amplifier, but no feedback will kinda hamper my idea of keeping it in the same A/V room as the other equipment.

oHwELL.. Thanks!
post #6686 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

Sorry, I forgot to add some info for that... You must first send a query to the receiver for it to provide this information:

ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1IFAQSTN\\x0D
ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1IFVQSTN\\x0D

Those are the ones for the Onkyo - the Integra may only just need !1IFAQSTN and !1IFVQSTN.

You then listen for the IFA and IFV responces.

Here is an example for the source I'm currently watching:

Audio:
HDMI 3,Dolby D,48 kHz,5.1 ch,Dolby Digital EX,7.1 ch,

Video:
HDMI 3,1920 x 1080i 60 Hz,YCbCr,24 bit,HDMI Main,1920 x 1080i 60 Hz,YCbCr,24 bit,Direct,

Unfortunately, iRule doesn't let you parse portions of this data, so it is all or nothing.

I hope this helps! Sorry I was so cryptic on my last response. I've got about 4 projects going at once and I wanted to send something on that before I forgot to.

I hadn't seen this command before so I want to try it out. I'm confused as to what to put as the value. The tutorial isn't clear about it either. Did you leave it blank?


I use the "Query Listening Mode" command to return just the Audio setting (available in Text feedback):

ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1LMDQSTN\\x0D

Ex of feedback: Stereo, Neo:6 THX Cinema, etc

From that you know how many speakers are in use, as well as the exact listening mode without the extra stuff.

I just had an idea- you could add a second feedback box but rename, for example, 'Stereo' to '2.1'. I don't know about the input though. Hope this helps
post #6687 of 9753
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Originally Posted by Jessev View Post

I hadn't seen this command before so I want to try it out. I'm confused as to what to put as the value. The tutorial isn't clear about it either. Did you leave it blank?


I use the "Query Listening Mode" command to return just the Audio setting (available in Text feedback):

ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x01\\x00\\x00\ \x00!1LMDQSTN\\x0D

Ex of feedback: Stereo, Neo:6 THX Cinema, etc

From that you know how many speakers are in use, as well as the exact listening mode without the extra stuff.

I just had an idea- you could add a second feedback box but rename, for example, 'Stereo' to '2.1'. I don't know about the input though. Hope this helps

I also use !1LMDQSTN in my setup as well. It's great for showing the output mode the receiver is in at the moment, but since you don't have info comming through this feedback on how many channels are being used, I also use the 2 mentioned above. I likes lots of information.
post #6688 of 9753
Does any one got the ir remote codes for Goobay HDMI Matrix switcher AVS 45

I cant find it any where.

http://www.conrad.com/Goobay-Avs-Hdm...-int&pi=943023
post #6689 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

I also use !1LMDQSTN in my setup as well. It's great for showing the output mode the receiver is in at the moment, but since you don't have info comming through this feedback on how many channels are being used, I also use the 2 mentioned above. I likes lots of information.

Can you show me how you setup that feedback, please? I've never done one without defined values
post #6690 of 9753
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessev View Post

Can you show me how you setup that feedback, please? I've never done one without defined values

I've made my feedback for my Onkyo downloadable for you to use in the builder. It's mostly the same as the one currently available with a few bits added in here and there. It is titled "Onkyo TX-NR809 Zone 1". Doing it this way is MUCH easier than trying to detail each entry in the feedback.
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