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post #6901 of 8408
8/17/12 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

I only use jriver at this time for music. There are commands in the builder for play/pause, stop, skip, etc. and they work perfectly with the computer running jriver's IP address set up as an http gateway on port 52199.
In android I launch the gizmo app for selecting music. I use an embedded webgizmo page to do the same in iOS.
I use a Dune play for video. Though with a recent remodel at my house I may start to use jriver more for that as a 2nd option.
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I use J. River Media Center to play both music (including multichannel music) and movies. Its automatic configuration for playing video files using Red October makes it about the easiest, most foolproof method available, and with the best video quality using madVR.
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post #6902 of 8408
8/18/12 at 12:56pm
Hey guys I have been trying to get my Mitsubishi 82837 to work with rs 232 and I am having some troubles getting it to do anything. I have a Gc-100-6. Any help would be great.
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post #6903 of 8408
8/19/12 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by Samuraijones View Post

Hey guys I have been trying to get my Mitsubishi 82837 to work with rs 232 and I am having some troubles getting it to do anything. I have a Gc-100-6. Any help would be great.

Do you have the docs for that device telling you which type of cable to use (straight or crossover) and the baud rate? Then check the GC-100 via its web page to page sure the baud rate is set correctly.
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post #6904 of 8408
8/19/12 at 9:07am
iRule 2.3 ignores brightness setting

I'm a bit behind the times updating to the latest version, but I immediately noticed that (on my 3rd gen iPod touch with iOS 5.1.1 ) it now ignores the global iOS brightness setting and sets its own brightness. This is a huge issue for me in a dark room as it's now blindingly bright even with the brightness set to minimum.

I'm guessing this is related to the new screen dimming feature, but I need it to be dim all the time, not just after a period of inactivity. It worked correctly on the previous version, and it can definitely be called a bug in 2.3 because even after quitting iRule the brightness is screwed up for other apps. Apps should not override global settings like that.

I'll report this to iRule support.
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post #6905 of 8408
8/19/12 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Do you have the docs for that device telling you which type of cable to use (straight or crossover) and the baud rate? Then check the GC-100 via its web page to page sure the baud rate is set correctly.

That is some of the problem. I cant seam to find any real documentation. I have been searching for days.
I am sure something is wrong because no matter what command I use, it will just shut the tv off.
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post #6906 of 8408
8/19/12 at 2:58pm
Unfortunately that's the nature of RS-232 -- if the settings are wrong it won't work.

At least there are only two types of cable, and only a few baud rates to try (9600 and 19200 are the most common). If you're sure the codes are correct, then you just have to try the different combinations of cable and baud rate. If you're not sure about the codes, then that makes it harder. Can Mitsubishi support help?

BTW, where did you find the RS-232 codes?
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post #6907 of 8408
8/19/12 at 6:15pm
I found the codes on the irule builder.

I was hoping someone here has the info to make sure i have the right codes and cables. How would i know the difference in cables.
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post #6908 of 8408
8/19/12 at 7:07pm
RS-232C_Communication_Specs.pdf 450k .pdf file

Here is the only spec sheet I have found. I don't really understand how the cable works though.
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post #6909 of 8408
8/20/12 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by Samuraijones View Post

Here is the only spec sheet I have found. I don't really understand how the cable works though.

When you buy an RS-232 cable it will be described as either straight or null modem (null modem crosses the transmit and receive wires). If you have the wrong type now, you can add a null-modem adapter on one end to achieve the same result. Obviously you need the right gender (Male or Female) at both ends too, but that's easy to see.

The doc you attached shows that you'll need a null-modem cable. Pin 2 is Rx (receive), and pin 2 of a standard serial port (such as on the GC-100) is also Rx. A straight cable would connect Rx to Rx, which is no good. You have to connect Rx to Tx, and vice versa, hence you need a crossover (null modem) cable.

Also look at the communication settings described in that doc. You need 9600 baud and Odd parity. These have to be set via the GC-100 web page, because they are not the defaults. Also make sure the other settings are correct (flow control should be disabled, because your TV doesn't support it).

This all assumes that Mitsubishi didn't change anything on your model of TV, because that doc. is fairly old.
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post #6910 of 8408
8/20/12 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

When you buy an RS-232 cable it will be described as either straight or null modem (null modem crosses the transmit and receive wires). If you have the wrong type now, you can add a null-modem adapter on one end to achieve the same result. Obviously you need the right gender (Male or Female) at both ends too, but that's easy to see.
The doc you attached shows that you'll need a null-modem cable. Pin 2 is Rx (receive), and pin 2 of a standard serial port (such as on the GC-100) is also Rx. A straight cable would connect Rx to Rx, which is no good. You have to connect Rx to Tx, and vice versa, hence you need a crossover (null modem) cable.
Also look at the communication settings described in that doc. You need 9600 baud and Odd parity. These have to be set via the GC-100 web page, because they are not the defaults. Also make sure the other settings are correct (flow control should be disabled, because your TV doesn't support it).
This all assumes that Mitsubishi didn't change anything on your model of TV, because that doc. is fairly old.
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I am currently using a null cable and I pulled the codes for the TV from Irule. Not sure what to do from here.
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post #6911 of 8408
8/20/12 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by Samuraijones View Post

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I am currently using a null cable and I pulled the codes for the TV from Irule. Not sure what to do from here.

Assuming you set the right baud rate and parity in the GC-100, then I don't know what's wrong.

What I would do is connect the GC-100 to a PC serial port instead of the TV, run Hyperterminal (or any similar program) at 9600 baud and Odd parity, and then send commands from iRule and see if they get through. If you can verify with a PC that the correct commands are being received then it proves that the cable is OK, and the problem could lie with the TV.
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post #6912 of 8408
8/20/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Assuming you set the right baud rate and parity in the GC-100, then I don't know what's wrong.
What I would do is connect the GC-100 to a PC serial port instead of the TV, run Hyperterminal (or any similar program) at 9600 baud and Odd parity, and then send commands from iRule and see if they get through. If you can verify with a PC that the correct commands are being received then it proves that the cable is OK, and the problem could lie with the TV.
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

When you buy an RS-232 cable it will be described as either straight or null modem (null modem crosses the transmit and receive wires). If you have the wrong type now, you can add a null-modem adapter on one end to achieve the same result. Obviously you need the right gender (Male or Female) at both ends too, but that's easy to see.
The doc you attached shows that you'll need a null-modem cable. Pin 2 is Rx (receive), and pin 2 of a standard serial port (such as on the GC-100) is also Rx. A straight cable would connect Rx to Rx, which is no good. You have to connect Rx to Tx, and vice versa, hence you need a crossover (null modem) cable.
Also look at the communication settings described in that doc. You need 9600 baud and Odd parity. These have to be set via the GC-100 web page, because they are not the defaults. Also make sure the other settings are correct (flow control should be disabled, because your TV doesn't support it).
This all assumes that Mitsubishi didn't change anything on your model of TV, because that doc. is fairly old.
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I am currently using a null cable and I pulled the codes for the TV from Irule. Not sure what to do from here.

Good news, finally got it to work. Not sure what I did but everything is working good. Thanks for all the help.
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post #6913 of 8408
8/20/12 at 5:13pm
Hey guys! I am having a weird problem with my irule/gateway communication and was hoping someone could help.

I have my gateway working fine with my wife's iphone and my ipad, however, on my iphone it can see the gateway (has the green connection icon at the bottom) but everytime I try to send a command to a device I get that red communication error icon like the gateway is blocking the command. It just started doing this when I set up my wife's Iphone. I have a pro license so I thought I could use up to 5 devices on with the gateway.

I've deleted the irule app of my phone and reinstalled to no avail. I've also power-cycled the gateway and router.

Thoughts?
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post #6914 of 8408
8/20/12 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by hagenstien View Post

Hey guys! I am having a weird problem with my irule/gateway communication and was hoping someone could help.
I have my gateway working fine with my wife's iphone and my ipad, however, on my iphone it can see the gateway (has the green connection icon at the bottom) but everytime I try to send a command to a device I get that red communication error icon like the gateway is blocking the command. It just started doing this when I set up my wife's Iphone. I have a pro license so I thought I could use up to 5 devices on with the gateway.
I've deleted the irule app of my phone and reinstalled to no avail. I've also power-cycled the gateway and router.
Thoughts?

The first thing that comes to mind is that you may have the gateway defined but no devices assigned to it. So, irule indicates it has a gateway connection but because no devices are defined the commands aren't sent.
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post #6915 of 8408
8/21/12 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by hagenstien View Post

Hey guys! I am having a weird problem with my irule/gateway communication and was hoping someone could help.
I have my gateway working fine with my wife's iphone and my ipad, however, on my iphone it can see the gateway (has the green connection icon at the bottom) but everytime I try to send a command to a device I get that red communication error icon like the gateway is blocking the command. It just started doing this when I set up my wife's Iphone. I have a pro license so I thought I could use up to 5 devices on with the gateway.
I've deleted the irule app of my phone and reinstalled to no avail. I've also power-cycled the gateway and router.
Thoughts?
Like SeldomSeen said, check to see if your devices are attached to the Gateway in the app. One thing you can do to save yourself some trouble is to backup the Gateway configuration from a working handset (Sync tab), then restore the Gateway configuration on the non-working handset. If it works on one, it should work on the other.

Also, just a note on your 5-devices comment... The five device limit associated with iRule Pro refers to "Handsets" (or more specifically, "unique user interfaces", i.e. five people in the house, each with their own unique UI for their iPad, iPhone, Android device, etc.). There is no explicit limit to the number of "devices", i.e. TV, BD, cable/sat, etc. you can control with iRule, regardless of Basic or Pro. If your house had 20 things in it you wanted to control from 11 different Gateways, you could do so with with either version of iRule.

Cheers,
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post #6916 of 8408
8/21/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

...iRule 2.3 now ignores the global iOS brightness setting and sets its own brightness. This is a huge issue for me in a dark room as it's now blindingly bright even with the brightness set to minimum..

Doesn't anybody else use the iOS Settings App to lower the screen brightness before running iRule? It seems like it would be a common thing to do for people with a dedicated dark room.

iRule support just confirmed that they now set the brightness level to half when iRule starts, and they will consider removing this in a future version. It would be useful if anybody else who wants to set their own brightness level contacted iRule support and requested this. There's no way that one specific brightness level can be right for everyone, since some people use iRule in dark rooms and some people in bright sunlight.
Edited by kriktsemaj99 - 8/21/12 at 11:13am
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post #6917 of 8408
8/21/12 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Doesn't anybody else use the iOS Settings App to lower the screen brightness before running iRule? It seems like it would be a common thing to do for people with a dedicated dark room.
With the iPad I do, but I don't bother with the iPhone.
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 
]iRule support claim this is a bug in iOS, but it worked fine in iRule 2.1. With 2.3 iRule is even affecting the brightness for other Apps which run afterwards, which is certainly not desirable behaviour.
iRule support is correct - this is a bug in iOS. The reason the issue didn't exist in 2.1 is because the screen-dimming feature wasn't in 2.1. Think about how this feature works: iOS (via the API) lets an app override the system-level brightness setting, which is what iRule does. But, once the user presses the "Home" button, iRule (or any other app for that matter) is suspended by the OS, so is no longer running. It's iOS that should be saying, "Oh, this app called me to overrode the screen brightness setting, but the user just pressed the "Home" button, so I need to restore screen brightness setting to its system setting.

If you don't want to deal with the bug, you can just remember to tap iRule to restore the brightness setting before you press home, you can turn off the "Dim screen on idle" setting and manually set your screen brightness in iOS Settings, or you can put the device to sleep and wake it back up again.

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post #6918 of 8408
8/21/12 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

iRule 2.3 ignores brightness setting
I'm a bit behind the times updating to the latest version, but I immediately noticed that (on my 3rd gen iPod touch with iOS 5.1.1 ) it now ignores the global iOS brightness setting and sets its own brightness. This is a huge issue for me in a dark room as it's now blindingly bright even with the brightness set to minimum.
I just tested this and realized what you're talking about. I'm guessing this is another bug in iOS. Try setting your brightness just a tick or two above the bottom of the slider, and then iRule will work as expected. Something is hinky with the system brightness setting set at 0 - I'm guessing the issue probably exists for any app that uses the screen brightness hook.

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post #6919 of 8408
8/21/12 at 11:31am
I'll experiment more tonight, but iRule support did confirm that they are forcing the brightness setting to 0.5 (half max brightness) when iRule starts. So I'm not sure I'll be able to get the behaviour I always used to rely on.
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post #6920 of 8408
8/21/12 at 5:23pm
The problem does indeed only show up when the brightness slider is set to the absolute minimum. If I set it slightly above minimum then iRule leaves it at that setting. It's still dim enough, so I can live with that as a workaround.
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post #6921 of 8408
8/22/12 at 12:44pm
I'm in the middle of setting up my iRule remote and I got my ITach IP2IR installed last night. It works great so far with one small issue. For some reason I cannot get the "Microsoft Media Manager MCE PC All Models" device to work with my Media Center. I know the PC is getting the IR codes because I'm able to use a HEX code I grabbed from my Harmony One for Sleep mode and close window (Alt+F4), but no go with the MCE codes. Any ideas or maybe I'm missing something?
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post #6922 of 8408
8/25/12 at 12:13pm
I'm working with my Denon AVR-4311CI and having an issue with one feedback I've defined. It's the iPod direct feedback with the specific Denon variable NSA2 (artist name) the iPod (or AVR) always seems to return a leading "/" before the name of the artist. I can't figure out a way in iRule to remove the leading "/" which is really irritating in my remote view.

An example would be that you end up with feedbacks that look like this:
/Artist
Album
Song

or to use real examples:
/The Trophy Fire
Modern Hearts
Darkness Into Gold

I've tried using NSE instead of NSA (which returns UTF8 vs. ASCII) but that makes no difference. I also attempted to use a prefix of NSA2/ to find try to trick iRule into thinking the leading / was part of the prefix vs. actual variable data but that didn't work either.

I'm creating a much more organized version of AVR-4311CI controls & feedbacks as a part of this process which I'll be sure to share when I'm done, hopefully it will be useful for some of you other Denon users.
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post #6923 of 8408
8/25/12 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by TheYoshi View Post

I'm working with my Denon AVR-4311CI and having an issue with one feedback I've defined. It's the iPod direct feedback with the specific Denon variable NSA2 (artist name) the iPod (or AVR) always seems to return a leading "/" before the name of the artist. I can't figure out a way in iRule to remove the leading "/" which is really irritating in my remote view.

An example would be that you end up with feedbacks that look like this:
/Artist
Album
Song

or to use real examples:
/The Trophy Fire
Modern Hearts
Darkness Into Gold

I've tried using NSE instead of NSA (which returns UTF8 vs. ASCII) but that makes no difference. I also attempted to use a prefix of NSA2/ to find try to trick iRule into thinking the leading / was part of the prefix vs. actual variable data but that didn't work either.

I'm creating a much more organized version of AVR-4311CI controls & feedbacks as a part of this process which I'll be sure to share when I'm done, hopefully it will be useful for some of you other Denon users.


Have you tried defining/adding the "/" as a prefix for this particular feedback? This should eliminate it in the response.

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post #6924 of 8408
8/25/12 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post


Have you tried defining/adding the "/" as a prefix for this particular feedback? This should eliminate it in the response.
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Axel
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I also attempted to use a prefix of NSA2/ to find try to trick iRule into thinking the leading / was part of the prefix vs. actual variable data but that didn't work either.

Yep, unless you're suggesting a different way than what I've defined there? if so can you give more specifics?
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post #6925 of 8408
8/26/12 at 5:47am

Disclaimer: I only have a 4308CI and never used iRadio or alike, let alone polling respective feedback for this feature.

 

I pulled up the Serial Protocol that I have been using for my setup. Under the NSA event it lists parameter 0 to 8 for the various 'display line information'. each line is assigned to either artist, title (not clear if song or album), etc. So I assume that the protocol is probably similar to yours. The syntax for each line is the same. That said, I am wondering why you only get the "/" for artist, but not for the other lines.

 

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post #6926 of 8408
8/26/12 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

Disclaimer: I only have a 4308CI and never used iRadio or alike, let alone polling respective feedback for this feature.

I pulled up the Serial Protocol that I have been using for my setup. Under the NSA event it lists parameter 0 to 8 for the various 'display line information'. each line is assigned to either artist, title (not clear if song or album), etc. So I assume that the protocol is probably similar to yours. The syntax for each line is the same. That said, I am wondering why you only get the "/" for artist, but not for the other lines.

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Axel

I have the same (or similar) document I did notice that while it doesn't seem to explicitly mention the leading / for the NSA or NSE responses it is mentioned for both IPA and IPE responses (usually used with the dedicated iPod dock vs. iPod direct) which leads me to think that perhaps the documentation is just wrong.

Here's the example the documentation gives for NSA:
Code:
NSA0Now Playing USB_????<CR> 
NSA1※Come Away With Me_???<CR> 
NSA2※Norah Jones_?????????<CR> 
NSA3※_????????????????????<CR> 
NSA4※_????????????????????<CR> 
NSA5※00:11 100%_???????<CR> 
NSA6※_????????????????????<CR>
NSA7_????????????????????<CR> 
NSA8_????????????????????<CR>

And here it is for IPA:
Code:
IPA0Now Playing iPod_???????<CR> 
IPA1※ A HARD DAY'S NIGHT._??<CR> 
IPA2※ /The Beatles_?????????<CR> 
IPA3※_??????????????????????<CR> 
IPA4※ A HARD DAY'S NIGHT_???<CR> 
IPA5※ 00:04_??????????????<CR> 
IPA6※_??????????????????????<CR> 
IPA7※_??????????????????????<CR>
IPA8#SFLSongs RPTAll_???<CR> 
IPA9????????????????????????<CR>

Frankly I don't care if it sends it to me, I just don't want it to show. It seems iRule could use some rudimentary text manipulation for feedbacks.

Then of course my next big feature want is for me to be able to set variables based on data in feedbacks but that's a whole different story smile.gif
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post #6927 of 8408
8/27/12 at 5:38pm
Help me with Comcast. I am in Atlanta and I the Comcast commands for changing channels do not respond. I have tried changing delays and can't seem to get it right for the hi def channels.

Is there something that happened to Comcast or is there something else going on here?

Thanks
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post #6928 of 8408
8/29/12 at 7:57am
Does your original remote work any better? Comcast might use SDV in your area, so rapid channel changes might not be possible.
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post #6929 of 8408
8/31/12 at 9:34pm
The issue was with the comcast box. Something got sideways with the box. I called and had them reset the box and all is back to normal.
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post #6930 of 8408
9/3/12 at 10:12am
Anyone having issues with the builder? I can't seem to work in it. I can see in the left side the list off all my panels and pages, but I can't click on any of the pages and view them. I added a new panel and can't rename it, I can't edit any of the names of my existing panels. Basically, nothing is working.

I am using Windows 7 PC, Chrome browser.


EDIT: Well, as soon as I ask for help (after 20 minutes of troubleshooting on my own) I navigate back to the builder and have the OH SNAP message from Chrome. I hit reload button and everything is back working.
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