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post #7171 of 9744
For those of you using feedback, how often are you refreshing the query? I set the DirecTV to refresh at 3 seconds, but that seems like overkill. Maybe I'll add it to buttons and only refresh every few minutes.
post #7172 of 9744
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

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Originally Posted by SeanKosmann View Post

Ok, stupid question... I have a cable box that seems to be RF controlled.... can I control this using an IR emitter and where do I place it to make it work? Sorry, just a last few things I'm trying to figure out, but otherwise, still have high hopes for this system!

IR and RF are 2 different things. Unless the box accepts both IR and RF commands (like a Directv box) then you may be out of luck. Irule does not work with RF. If it does accept IR commands and you can't immediately see the eye on the front (or an IR in 3.5mm jack on the back) then you can do a crawl. Place the IR bug on the front and hit a command on the irule app, then move it a bit and hit the command again, repeat until the unit responds.

AWESOME! I'm not completely crazy! Ok, it does have a 3.5 on the back, so I'll play with that tonight. Thanks for the answer! That was one part of this whole setup that was still confusing the heck out of me! Hopefully I'll have the bedroom completed tonight... the next big thing is figuring out how to use iLearn frown.gif I have the tv turning on/off and the volume working... but I haven't been able to get any of the sleep commands to work from the preloaded specs in iBuilder. And for some crazy reason... the commands for WestingHouse (Which the tv is...) didn't work... but the vizio commands do.... That makes TOTAL sense tongue.gif
post #7173 of 9744
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Thanks! Maybe I should wait a bit then, because I do not want to redesign again.. BTW, how difficult is it to move through 1 design to another? (say from iphone4 to iphone5?)
I wouldn't wait really, You're missing a slight bit of screen, probably unnoticeable when all said and done. I'm using an iPhone5 and it works great. After you get the hang of things this is so fast it doesnt take long to build or copy and paste pages around. I use drawers for Volume/ Apple Remote/ DirecTv Menu/List anyway so the only thing I actually use that fills pages is DirecTv with their silly red/green/blue/yellow/enter/cursor select/ up/ down/ you get the picture but I have DirecTv in 2 pages and it works so fast with Volume Drawers.

That being said the Theater will get an iPad mini, those are the ticket! Remember the whole concept is to macro everything off a "start/main" page so you don't have too many buttons.

On my iPhone5 the bottom 5/8" is unused by iRule
post #7174 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ekkoville View Post

For those of you using feedback, how often are you refreshing the query? I set the DirecTV to refresh at 3 seconds, but that seems like overkill. Maybe I'll add it to buttons and only refresh every few minutes.

I have mine refresh every 15 seconds and it seems to work nicely. A small delay when changing channels before the feedback updates, but easy to deal with. I would leave it as an entrance, that way it works in background and you don't have to think about it.

I'm trying to come up with a way to populate a favorite channels page with a button for each channel and a feedback below it that shows what is on that channel.

I thought I had it working:

Screenshot_2012-09-28-10-39-43.png

But the way I did it was to create 6 directv devices with 6 get tuned commands for a specific channel and added these as entrances to the panel with staggered repeating so they all wouldn't trigger at once. I thought it worked so I took a screen shot and then it all went to hell. The box froze my Kindle Fire froze and i had to scrap that method.

I made a post on the irule Support forums about it. If anyone can think of a way to make this work I'd be very grateful. I'm sure others would too.
Edited by SeldomSeen31 - 11/9/12 at 6:46am
post #7175 of 9744
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I pulled the trigger last night and purchased the items. I agree it is better to probably cough up the extra dough for a GC-IRE to make learning easier; time is money, after all! I want to have it on top of my desk, and the computer (mid-size tower) is on the floor. So, does it matter if I use a USB extension cable to extend the length of my current USB to serial converter or an RS-232 cable after the USB to serial converter? I prefer the RS-232 cable, as I have a bunch of those (regular and null modem) lying around.
Thanks
Mark.

Nice!

I use a Prolific 6ft USB to serial cable from Amazon and it works well with the software. I know I've heard people have had issues over 10ft. but it can't hurt to try say a 3ft extension and see what happens.

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post #7176 of 9744
Hi all, I have been reading this thread for a while and am going to be a new iRule. I just bought a iTach wifi2IR unit and am about to start programming my remote.

This may have been answered already but I can't seem to find a clear cut answer.

Is there ANY possible way, at this point, to sync an iRule remote to an iPad 3? I understand it doesn't support retna yet, but can I use a low res version in the mean time?

This my have been a really dumb move, but I bought all this without realizing it and all I have is an iPhone 5 and iPad 3.

Anyway, I'd love for anyone to chime in and with an answer or maybe an update as to when retna support might be available.

Thanks,
Jason
post #7177 of 9744
u can use ur ipad setup on any iPad. doesn't matter. ur iphone setup on an iphone 5 will have small balck bars on either side or top bottom depending on the pages. an update soon will have retina iphone 5 support but u need to rebuild to take take advantage of the larger screen. i am using my iphone setup since the first iphone on a 3gs, 4, and 5 and it's fine.

jim
post #7178 of 9744
Thank you very much Jim! Ya I don't mind waiting for the update, but I want to be able to use it in the mean time, even if it means with bars etc.

Thanks again!
post #7179 of 9744
As earlier promised, I have shared my panel as it is currently. There are still some tweaks that are needed, but it is functional and setup for use with Onkyo TX-SR876 Reciever via Serial (with feedback).
I am also currently making a Retina version which will follow later on.

Search for the User Panel: "Onkyo TX-SR875 from Plainsimple.dk" - currently only in Portrait.

Feel free to share and rate the panel smile.gif

post #7180 of 9744
I remember someone asking about this before but a search didn't turn up anything. I've recently made a design using drawers and I just can't get them to pop out (sources in a drawer on the left and volume in one on the right). The right hand drawer is particularly an issue as it nearly always scrolls to the next page in the panel. I'm using basically a tweaked version of the default build for HTC EVO 4G.

Is there really nothing that can be done until irule makes an update short of only using drawers on panels that have just 1 page?
post #7181 of 9744
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Originally Posted by krichter1 View Post

I have the GC-IRL and it works great by connecting with a serial to USB connector. Download the software to your PC or Mac and use it to cut and paste your learned Hex strings. The other posts are correct that the iTach devices have the IR reader built in but I didn't like it because it was installed behind my rack making it too difficult to work with. Being able to hook this up to my main machine upstairs where I design my iRule pages makes this little tool invaluable. wink.gif

I watched the Global Cache training module on using iLearn. They covered how to test the remote control code when connected to an iTach IP2IR or WF2IR, but this is not possible when using the GC-IRL, I assume. So, the question is if it is possible to open a saved file and connect to the IP2IR to test the codes. My Moxi DVR has always been a problematic device to learn IR codes for my URC remotes, so I am thinking those buttons will need to be tested as each one is learned, and adjustments made as necessary.

Thanks for any insight.

Mark
post #7182 of 9744
I've been fiddling arround with iPad backgrounds again, now that I've implemented drawers in my layouts. Here is one background for J. River Music Center with an insert for a ULR that incorporates WebGizmo:

iPadImage3.jpg

Here is one for my standard layout:

iPadImage2.jpg

Here is one with the left and right drawers open:

iPadImage1.jpg

And a variation on a theme:

iPadImage4.jpg
Edited by Steve Goff - 11/12/12 at 4:50pm
post #7183 of 9744
Very Cool Steve, looks like a lot of work
post #7184 of 9744
I took the iRule Builder tutorial videos #1through #6 today, and then started searching for my devices in iRule builder. I created a handset for our Kindle Fire, and a template popped in. I started re-naming some pages and buttons, as I wanted to set up for my TV as a test. Downloaded the app for the Kindle and synced it; I have to admit, iRule is pretty cool! biggrin.gif

My iTach and GC-IRL should arrive tomorrow in the mail. Before I get too far in building the Kindle handset, do new handsets have to be built from scratch, or will I be able to use the same design and programming?

Thanks.

Mark
post #7185 of 9744
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I took the iRule Builder tutorial videos #1through #6 today, and then started searching for my devices in iRule builder. I created a handset for our Kindle Fire, and a template popped in. I started re-naming some pages and buttons, as I wanted to set up for my TV as a test. Downloaded the app for the Kindle and synced it; I have to admit, iRule is pretty cool! biggrin.gif
My iTach and GC-IRL should arrive tomorrow in the mail. Before I get too far in building the Kindle handset, do new handsets have to be built from scratch, or will I be able to use the same design and programming?
Thanks.
Mark
Either, use templates or start from scratch. Once you build your first remote from scratch using images out of their library things get fun
post #7186 of 9744
I am almost done with the panels for my GalaxyTab 2.0 7" tablet so I thought I'd post some screenshots. I built it so that the user first selects display (TV, projector or audio only) and then picks a source.

Devices:
  • HTPC running 7MC
  • Marantz AV7005 pre/pro
  • PS3
  • Wii
  • Benq W6500 projector
  • LG 55LW550W TV
  • Euroscreen electric screen

Still missing the final polish, some timings are still glitchy, a few buttons have inexplicably become horizontally squeezed, and I still need to get feedback from the Marantz AV7005 to work















Edited by politby - 11/15/12 at 1:52pm
post #7187 of 9744
Hey guys, I'm looking to jump in feet first with iRule and hope you can help me out. I'm comfortable with the software requirements, but I'm not too sure what hardware to purchase. I have 3 RS232 devices and 4 IR devices I need to control. iRule support recommended 1 x GC-100-12 and 2 x IP2SL iTach gateways, but I wanted to see if there were any other options. My preference is to try and control everything with one device. Is there a single device out there that can do all I need?
post #7188 of 9744
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Originally Posted by sumolounge View Post

As earlier promised, I have shared my panel as it is currently. There are still some tweaks that are needed, but it is functional and setup for use with Onkyo TX-SR876 Reciever via Serial (with feedback).
I am also currently making a Retina version which will follow later on.
Search for the User Panel: "Onkyo TX-SR875 from Plainsimple.dk" - currently only in Portrait.
Feel free to share and rate the panel smile.gif

That looks awesome! Very clean looking!
post #7189 of 9744
ive been using irule with both my android galaxy note and my newly acquired nexus 7. i have the same issue on both and im not sure if its irule or the itach. the itach has a static ip and works fine most of the time, but if i stop using irule for say 15 mins and then go back in the little green icon in the top right corner goes white and the commands are not sent. the only way to get any commands to work (and get the green icon again), is to hit the panels button and re-sync the panel. then everything works again as it should. is this an android problem or is there something amiss with irule?

am i the only one experiencing this issue?

thanks for the help.
post #7190 of 9744
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Originally Posted by LaoChe View Post

Hey guys, I'm looking to jump in feet first with iRule and hope you can help me out. I'm comfortable with the software requirements, but I'm not too sure what hardware to purchase. I have 3 RS232 devices and 4 IR devices I need to control. iRule support recommended 1 x GC-100-12 and 2 x IP2SL iTach gateways, but I wanted to see if there were any other options. My preference is to try and control everything with one device. Is there a single device out there that can do all I need?

Can your 232 devices also be controlled via ethernet? It was mentioned earlier, when I had a similar question, that it was better to go ethernet and IR (which would also save from having to buy more controllers).
post #7191 of 9744
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Originally Posted by bass addict View Post

Can your 232 devices also be controlled via ethernet? It was mentioned earlier, when I had a similar question, that it was better to go ethernet and IR (which would also save from having to buy more controllers).

I don't believe they can. I bought my equipment late 2008 and early 2009 (Pioneer Elite PRO-141FD, Pioneer Elite SC-07, Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD).
post #7192 of 9744
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Originally Posted by LaoChe View Post

I don't believe they can. I bought my equipment late 2008 and early 2009 (Pioneer Elite PRO-141FD, Pioneer Elite SC-07, Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD).
I would just go iTach and Blasters personally, you can hook up 6 devices using their double blasters or do like I have done in the past make your own and do as many as you want off 1 iTach. Im using an IP and a wireless iTach in two different locations and the blasters are spot on. You can also wire directly into IR ports on the back of your equipment if Pioneer has IR control ports on the back. EDIT, I just looked and all your gear has IR inputs on the back, you can hardwire them, use spliters and you can control 6 things either way if you mix and match. I directly wired my old Denon 4805 receiver and its never, ever missed a command in an 11,000 sq ft house. Lightning fast too.
Edited by Mark P - 11/14/12 at 6:27am
post #7193 of 9744
One iTach could certainly control everything using IR, but it would be nice to use RS232 to get feedback from at least the receiver (volume etc.) and BD player (elapsed time etc.)
post #7194 of 9744
I would like to wire directly to IR ports as well, what are the connectors I need to buy? can someone give me a link on the split cables? I am not handy, so it is probably better for me to buy it off the shelf then I make something and not sure if it is working or not. Do they carry these in monoprice?
post #7195 of 9744
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

I would like to wire directly to IR ports as well, what are the connectors I need to buy? can someone give me a link on the split cables? I am not handy, so it is probably better for me to buy it off the shelf then I make something and not sure if it is working or not. Do they carry these in monoprice?
Radio Shack

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103870


http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2123235

Then double male to length you want.

iRule sells the double blasters, if you have the "plug end" ( another radio shack item) most small wire 22awg/ 26awg and higher will send a signal. I made a universal remote blaster run of 90' once with zero issue
Edited by Mark P - 11/14/12 at 12:51pm
post #7196 of 9744
I'm bummed out. I spotted this active user group. I saw that iRule had a series of video tutorials. These I took as positive signs. I spent the $50 and ordered it only to find that the tutorials are rubbish. Almost nothing in the first tutorial video works on the real software the way it's shown. The whole software architecture seems quite amatuer. I wrote them an email, we'll see if they contact me back.
post #7197 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

Radio Shack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103870
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2123235
Then double male to length you want.
iRule sells the double blasters, if you have the "plug end" ( another radio shack item) most small wire 22awg/ 26awg and higher will send a signal. I made a universal remote blaster run of 90' once with zero issue

Thanks Mark!!

Will this double male work with the splitter?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021802&p_id=645&seq=1&format=2 How about mono vs stereo, does it matter?? and there maybe some TRS variant?? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just want to make sure I got the correct one.

Thanks!!

Thomas
post #7198 of 9744
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Originally Posted by PLB View Post

I'm bummed out. I spotted this active user group. I saw that iRule had a series of video tutorials. These I took as positive signs. I spent the $50 and ordered it only to find that the tutorials are rubbish. Almost nothing in the first tutorial video works on the real software the way it's shown. The whole software architecture seems quite amatuer. I wrote them an email, we'll see if they contact me back.

They give you a free trial ... did you give it a drive first?

IMO the programming is a little cumbersome but the results can be quite superb for the money ... a DIY version of higher end programming solutions.
post #7199 of 9744
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Originally Posted by PLB View Post

I'm bummed out. I spotted this active user group. I saw that iRule had a series of video tutorials. These I took as positive signs. I spent the $50 and ordered it only to find that the tutorials are rubbish. Almost nothing in the first tutorial video works on the real software the way it's shown. The whole software architecture seems quite amatuer. I wrote them an email, we'll see if they contact me back.
Hi PLB. Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Bummer.

The video tutorials are quite old and do need to be replaced. iRule is actually much more capable and powerful than it was when the videos were made. I do know they're working on better/different tutorials and videos.

Like any powerful tool, iRule does take some time investment to learn and understand. Did you happen to browse any of the tutorials on the iRule support site?

Also, iRule does offer a money-back guarantee, so if you're truly unhappy with the purchase, you can get a refund and be out nothing.

Cheers,
SC
post #7200 of 9744
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Thanks Mark!!
Will this double male work with the splitter?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021802&p_id=645&seq=1&format=2 How about mono vs stereo, does it matter?? and there maybe some TRS variant?? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just want to make sure I got the correct one.
Thanks!!
Thomas
I'm really not sure but I think Mono works, heck I just use junk laying around and splice stuff so I'm guessing mono would be fine, maybe better https://globalcache.zendesk.com/entries/21146101-maximum-length-from-itach-to-ir-emitter-blaster
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