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post #7201 of 8455
11/14/12 at 5:56pm
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Originally Posted by PLB View Post

I'm bummed out. I spotted this active user group. I saw that iRule had a series of video tutorials. These I took as positive signs. I spent the $50 and ordered it only to find that the tutorials are rubbish. Almost nothing in the first tutorial video works on the real software the way it's shown. The whole software architecture seems quite amatuer. I wrote them an email, we'll see if they contact me back.
PLB it does look confusing and their instructional videos are pretty bad but once you get something to work it's sooooooooooooooo easy and works much better than anything else I have ever tried including Cinemar Main Lobby and CQC, if you get disgruntled and need help you could PM me your Phone # and I would walk you through some stuff, sometimes that's all it takes. I'm using it to run 3 different theaters in the Home ( one is pretty elaborate) whole house audio, and Insteon lighting and devices and the product is so easy to use now and never skips a beat
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post #7202 of 8455
11/15/12 at 12:28pm
Does anyone have experience with controlling an ESI RQ bridge using iRule? I have a Screen Excellence screen with motorized masking system. The masking system motors are connected to an ESI RQ bridge to serial, which connects into a Sena serial to IP converter. That in turn connects into my network. None of this is hooked up presently, but I'm at a loss as to how to integrate it with iRule. There are codes for the RQ unit, but I can't figure out how I would preset various aspect ratios. Essentially, all I would want to do is preset ratios of 2.37, 1.85, 1.78, and 1.33 with buttons for each distinct aspect ratio. Any help would be appreciated, haven't been able to find the info yet -- there is some detail on the ESI website but it is way above my technical abilities and knowledge!!
Edited by rs691919 - 11/15/12 at 1:00pm
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post #7203 of 8455
11/15/12 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by PLB View Post

I'm bummed out. I spotted this active user group. I saw that iRule had a series of video tutorials. These I took as positive signs. I spent the $50 and ordered it only to find that the tutorials are rubbish. Almost nothing in the first tutorial video works on the real software the way it's shown. The whole software architecture seems quite amatuer. I wrote them an email, we'll see if they contact me back.

Dude, hang in there. Go through the written tutorials on IRule's web site and play with the builder. Start out basic to get it working, and then refine, refine, refine.

There is a time investment, but it is well worth it. With thanks to some of the great graphic designers in this forum (much of whose work is available in the User section of the Builder), primarily Steve Goff and (I think) Politby, and some basic Photoshop work, I have a set of pages on my Asus Infinity that look and work great (for me, at least).

Here are my main four pages. The first one controls my Tivo, with gestures for four functions (listed in the bottom left) and power/volume/basic controls for my TV and Amp on the right (the six buttons on the left control page switching):



The next screen gives me all the other controls I need for my TV and Amp:



The next screen lets me select channels on the Tivo, with some Amp and Tivo functions on the right:



Finally, I have a screen for keyboard entry when I am searching my Tivo for specific content:



Beats any system I have tried for controlling my stuff, and I have looked at a lot and tried quite a few.

Like I said, hang in there. The activity in this forum is evidence of the functionality of the software, but like any good software, there is a learning curve.

Good luck.
Edited by smalis - 11/15/12 at 1:19pm
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post #7204 of 8455
11/15/12 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Does anyone have experience with controlling an ESI RQ bridge using iRule? I have a Screen Excellence screen with motorized masking system. The masking system motors are connected to an ESI RQ bridge to serial, which connects into a Sena serial to IP converter. That in turn connects into my network. None of this is hooked up presently, but I'm at a loss as to how to integrate it with iRule. There are codes for the RQ unit, but I can't figure out how I would preset various aspect ratios. Essentially, all I would want to do is preset ratios of 2.37, 1.85, 1.78, and 1.33 with buttons for each distinct aspect ratio. Any help would be appreciated, haven't been able to find the info yet -- there is some detail on the ESI website but it is way above my technical abilities and knowledge!!

The RQ protocol is very simple, and as you noted, is already in the Builder. Not much to do there, other than figuring out your presets. If you import the ESI device into your account, then click on one of the commands, say "move 25% motor 100", you'll see the command will be exposed in the properties window:

!100m25;

The exclamation point ("bang") is a prefix or "start" character, the 100 tells the RQ bridge to operate motor 100, the "m" is "move to position", and the 25 is 25% open, or in the case of masking, 25% of the travel between your two calibrated open (no masking) and closed (fully masked) points. So, calibrate the motor for your max/min points, then just play with the numbers to make your presets for different AR's.

So, duplicate the 50% command (!100m50;), rename it 2.35, then apply it to a button and test to find the right spot for that AR. Maybe it's 47% (!100m47;), or maybe it's 39% (!100m39;). Just tweak the number, sync, and test. Repeat until the masking is in exactly the right place. Then, copy the command, and repeat for the next AR. The whole thing should take you maybe 20 minutes, and even that's probably being generous. The first AR 5 minutes, and the rest a minute or two apiece.

Regarding the hardware, unless I'm misunderstanding something, the Sena serial to IP converter is functionally equivalent and redundant if you already have an iTach serial gateway. The chain should look like:

Wired:
iRule on iOS/Android device -> WiFi router -> hub/switch > iTach IP2SL > RQ Bridge > masking motor(s)

Wi-FI:
iRule on iOS/Android device -> WiFi router -> iTach WF2SL > RQ Bridge > masking motor(s)

That's it. There's honestly not that much to it. Just make sure you set the serial port on the iTach to match the RQ bridge (which I don't recall at the moment).

Cheers,
SC
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post #7205 of 8455
11/15/12 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

The RQ protocol is very simple, and as you noted, is already in the Builder. Not much to do there, other than figuring out your presets. If you import the ESI device into your account, then click on one of the commands, say "move 25% motor 100", you'll see the command will be exposed in the properties window:
!100m25;
The exclamation point ("bang") is a prefix or "start" character, the 100 tells the RQ bridge to operate motor 100, the "m" is "move to position", and the 25 is 25% open, or in the case of masking, 25% of the travel between your two calibrated open (no masking) and closed (fully masked) points. So, calibrate the motor for your max/min points, then just play with the numbers to make your presets for different AR's.
So, duplicate the 50% command (!100m50;), rename it 2.35, then apply it to a button and test to find the right spot for that AR. Maybe it's 47% (!100m47;), or maybe it's 39% (!100m39;). Just tweak the number, sync, and test. Repeat until the masking is in exactly the right place. Then, copy the command, and repeat for the next AR. The whole thing should take you maybe 20 minutes, and even that's probably being generous. The first AR 5 minutes, and the rest a minute or two apiece.
Regarding the hardware, unless I'm misunderstanding something, the Sena serial to IP converter is functionally equivalent and redundant if you already have an iTach serial gateway. The chain should look like:
Wired:
iRule on iOS/Android device -> WiFi router -> hub/switch > iTach IP2SL > RQ Bridge > masking motor(s)
Wi-FI:
iRule on iOS/Android device -> WiFi router -> iTach WF2SL > RQ Bridge > masking motor(s)
That's it. There's honestly not that much to it. Just make sure you set the serial port on the iTach to match the RQ bridge (which I don't recall at the moment).
Cheers,
SC

Thanks so much! It seems easy enough, BUT how do I identify the correct motor numbers - they were not provided when I received the screen? Will I just have to guess and keep trying them out till one works?

As regards the Sena, when I purchased the screen I said that I wanted IP control, so they said I needed the Sena. So when the installers hook everything up next Wednesday, the Sena will be hard wired directly into my network. I suppose I could also just buy a separate iTach serial unit to go behind the screen, but I already spent $232 on the Sena so I might as well see if I can get it to work. The prewiring was done for Ethernet connection only, so I won't be able to run a serial cable from the rq bridge to my iTach gateway (which will be in the rack outside the theater) at this point.
Edited by rs691919 - 11/15/12 at 2:39pm
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post #7206 of 8455
11/15/12 at 2:05pm
Totally unrelated question...can you access ibuilder on the iPad or only on a PC or Mac?
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post #7207 of 8455
11/15/12 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Totally unrelated question...can you access ibuilder on the iPad or only on a PC or Mac?

Only on the computer. PC, Mac or Linux will work.



Alex
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post #7208 of 8455
11/15/12 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Only on the computer. PC, Mac or Linux will work.
Alex

That's what I thought. Frustrating. I don't have a laptop and my computer is clear on the other side of the house. Guess I should borrow a laptop to do the major configuring and testing. Otherwise I'll be burning a lot of calories walking back and forth! They need an builder app for iOS.
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post #7209 of 8455
11/15/12 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by smalis View Post

Beats any system I have tried for controlling my stuff, and I have looked at a lot and tried quite a few.
Like I said, hang in there. The activity in this forum is evidence of the functionality of the software, but like any good software, there is a learning curve.
Good luck.

+1.

It had me pulling my hair out at first but after a while I hit critical mass and now I find it easy to work with. There's really no limit to what you can do, especially if you are reasonably handy with graphics tools like Illustrator and Photoshop. You'd also be surprised to find how much great free graphics there is out there (hint: Google image search).

I'll also re-iterate a piece of really great advice from someone earlier in the thread: don't fall into the trap of trying to cram as many buttons as possible onto a page. Keep it simple; for daily use you just need the basic controls. You can always pull out the original remote if you need to change the time alignment for the front left height speaker. smile.gif
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post #7210 of 8455
11/15/12 at 3:00pm
Irule and Foscam IP Cameras

I was wondering if someone could look over my issue for viewing my ip cams inside of an iRule page. As I see it there are three basic items that need to be set up

1) Camera port forwarding/access. I have been doing this for years and can view the cameras remotely on via most any app or browser. For this post lets say may 'Home' url is matt.exampleurl.com, the port opened to remotely view the camera is 8811; the user name is matt; and the password is enter.

2) An irule gateway must be setup on each device using irule. All of my reasearch (an assumptions) say an HTTP gateway is to be used. Furthermore since I have multiple cameras, each using a different port, I would need a seperate HTTP gateway for each camera since they use different ports ( http://matt.exampleurl.com:8811, http://matt.exampleurl.com:8812, http://matt.exampleurl.com:8813...and so on)

I have seen some differing posts about how to enter this info into the irule http gateway and feel like I have tried them all on both android and apple devices. My initial guess was to just fill in the blanks:

Name: Camera8811
Address: matt.exampleurl.com
Port: 8811
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off

This did not seem to work on either android or apple so I have tried many variations such as the following:

Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com
Port: 8811
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off

Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off

Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username:
password:
http method: get
enable WOL: off

Name: Camera8811
Address: matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off

and other similar variations that include ..........com:8811/videostream.cgi?, .......com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8, and .......com:8811/videostream.cgi?username=matt&password=enter&resolution=8


3) A URL has to be placed on each irule page for each camera. Then withing the url properties and address must be set. Again I have tried matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811, matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi, matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=mattm11&password=&resolution=8, matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?, matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8, and matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8

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Can some PLEASE tell me what the correct syntax is for steps 2 & 3. Is it possible that using a HTTP gateway or an iIrule URL is not correct, or even that there is a step that I am missing?
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Thanks,
Matt
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post #7211 of 8455
11/15/12 at 7:03pm
I just bought a nexus 7 and after syncing it once, i cant get the "handsets" to show up anymore. Gateways is displayed and i can restore but handsets appears empty. Ive reinstalled the app, resaved on the cloud, even factory reset the tablet. Anyone know whats up?
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post #7212 of 8455
11/15/12 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Thanks so much! It seems easy enough, BUT how do I identify the correct motor numbers - they were not provided when I received the screen? Will I just have to guess and keep trying them out till one works?
I don't know the command off-hand, but the I believe the RQ devices (motors) all register themselves with the RQ bridge and can be polled for their IDs from the bridge (and a computer w/software). You'll want to use a tool like iTest or better yet, Docklight, poll the bridge, and I believe it will report any/all motors connected to the bridge.
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Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

As regards the Sena, when I purchased the screen I said that I wanted IP control, so they said I needed the Sena. So when the installers hook everything up next Wednesday, the Sena will be hard wired directly into my network. I suppose I could also just buy a separate iTach serial unit to go behind the screen, but I already spent $232 on the Sena so I might as well see if I can get it to work. The prewiring was done for Ethernet connection only, so I won't be able to run a serial cable from the rq bridge to my iTach gateway (which will be in the rack outside the theater) at this point.
My only personal experience is with the GC hardware, but if you have the Sena, I assume that should be fine. It's a little pricey for what it is IMHO, but if it works, no biggie I guess. Yes, you'd put the iTach behind the screen, at your ethernet termination, right next to the RQ bridge.

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post #7213 of 8455
11/15/12 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by Anthony A. View Post

I just bought a nexus 7 and after syncing it once, i cant get the "handsets" to show up anymore. Gateways is displayed and i can restore but handsets appears empty. Ive reinstalled the app, resaved on the cloud, even factory reset the tablet. Anyone know whats up?
Just to clarify... You have a Nexus 7 handset designed/saved in the Builder, and you were able to sync to it once, but now the app is telling you "no compatible handsets"? If so, you'll probably want to contact support on that one.

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post #7214 of 8455
11/15/12 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

I don't know the command off-hand, but the I believe the RQ devices (motors) all register themselves with the RQ bridge and can be polled for their IDs from the bridge (and a computer w/software). You'll want to use a tool like iTest or better yet, Docklight, poll the bridge, and I believe it will report any/all motors connected to the bridge.
My only personal experience is with the GC hardware, but if you have the Sena, I assume that should be fine. It's a little pricey for what it is IMHO, but if it works, no biggie I guess. Yes, you'd put the iTach behind the screen, at your ethernet termination, right next to the RQ bridge.
SC

I agree that the Sena seems redundant. The iTach seems much simpler to integrate into the network. I guess I will try out the Sena and see if I can make it work. If not, I'll just get an iTach for behind the screen. Do you know if there are any tutorials that can show me how to poll the RQ bridge to find the numbers of the motors? Thanks for your help....I understand what you are saying in theory, but as I have no experience with this, it seems overwhelming and confusing!
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post #7215 of 8455
11/16/12 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by snownh2o2 View Post

Irule and Foscam IP Cameras
I was wondering if someone could look over my issue for viewing my ip cams inside of an iRule page. As I see it there are three basic items that need to be set up
1) Camera port forwarding/access. I have been doing this for years and can view the cameras remotely on via most any app or browser. For this post lets say may 'Home' url is matt.exampleurl.com, the port opened to remotely view the camera is 8811; the user name is matt; and the password is enter.
2) An irule gateway must be setup on each device using irule. All of my reasearch (an assumptions) say an HTTP gateway is to be used. Furthermore since I have multiple cameras, each using a different port, I would need a seperate HTTP gateway for each camera since they use different ports ( http://matt.exampleurl.com:8811, http://matt.exampleurl.com:8812, http://matt.exampleurl.com:8813...and so on)
I have seen some differing posts about how to enter this info into the irule http gateway and feel like I have tried them all on both android and apple devices. My initial guess was to just fill in the blanks:
Name: Camera8811
Address: matt.exampleurl.com
Port: 8811
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off
This did not seem to work on either android or apple so I have tried many variations such as the following:
Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com
Port: 8811
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off
Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off
Name: Camera8811
Address: matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username:
password:
http method: get
enable WOL: off
Name: Camera8811
Address: matt.exampleurl.com:8811
Port:
username: matt
password: enter
http method: get
enable WOL: off
and other similar variations that include ..........com:8811/videostream.cgi?, .......com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8, and .......com:8811/videostream.cgi?username=matt&password=enter&resolution=8
3) A URL has to be placed on each irule page for each camera. Then withing the url properties and address must be set. Again I have tried matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811, matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi, matt:enter@matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=mattm11&password=&resolution=8, matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?, matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8, and matt.exampleurl.com:8811/videostream.cgi?user=matt&password=enter&resolution=8
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Can some PLEASE tell me what the correct syntax is for steps 2 & 3. Is it possible that using a HTTP gateway or an iIrule URL is not correct, or even that there is a step that I am missing?
********
Thanks,
Matt

Hi have Foscam cameras, 3 of the model FI8918W.

Android currently doesn't support streaming video within Irule. I use the launch app function and the app IP Cam Viewer Pro to view my cameras in my android set up. Works great, gives full control of the cameras and then hitting the back button puts me right back in iRule.

I do use ipod touch and can view the camera streams, here is now I have it:

embedded URL: http://192.168.1.107:80/videostream.cgi?user=XXXX&pwd=XXXX&resolution=8

In an 4 wide by 8 high portrait page I have the embedded url set as 4x5 and scale to fit = NO.

I have a website where I can view the cameras externally, but for embedding in the ipod display using the internal IP address of the camera rather than my website works.

For control of the cameras the commands in the builder work:

LEFT: decoder_control.cgi?command=6&onestep=5
RIGHT: decoder_control.cgi?command=4&onestep=5

etc.

For the gateway in iRule I have: internal IP address, port, username and password, HTTP method GET and WOL OFF.



Hope that helps.
Edited by SeldomSeen31 - 11/16/12 at 7:47am
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post #7216 of 8455
11/16/12 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by pauleyc View Post

So the new ipad mini could be perfect for an irule remote. Now that they have confirmed it has the same resolution as the original and ipad2, most of my layouts will transfer. The size is much better (IMO) for use in my HT. I wish it would have been cheaper than the $329 price tag.

Sorry if this was discussed before, did a quick search and only found this...

Have we confirmed that the existing layouts for my iPad (ver 1) will transfer seamlessly to a new iPad Mini?
Thanks,
Clam
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post #7217 of 8455
11/16/12 at 9:33am
I bought a mini and have no problem using my panels created on my iPad1, iPad3 and iPad mini. Granted you don't get a "retina" panel on the 3 but it works fine. The 1 and mini are the exact same display size. The mini looks crisper (as expected).
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post #7218 of 8455
11/16/12 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by pauleyc View Post

I bought a mini and have no problem using my panels created on my iPad1, iPad3 and iPad mini. Granted you don't get a "retina" panel on the 3 but it works fine. The 1 and mini are the exact same display size. The mini looks crisper (as expected).

Thanks very much, now I know what to ask Santa for.
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post #7219 of 8455
11/16/12 at 5:23pm
Noobi Needs Hardware Help!

I'm thinking of using iRule as a remote for all my home theater devices. I've been looking at the iRule hardware page and am unsure what I need.The iRule site does a lousy job of explaining hardware needs. Here are the devices I'd like to control with the iRule:
Panasonic GT50 TV
Cisco cable/DVR box
Denon 3313 receiver: has RS232 and IR ports on the back
Oppo 103 Blu Ray player: has RS232 and IR ports on the back
Sony CD changer, 300 disc player
Sony VCR
Maybe lighting in the future

One thing I would like to avoid if possible is using those wired IR connectors that cover the IR eye on the front of a device. If I have to use them I will, but I find them unappealing. If I do use them, does it prevent you from using the original remote, since the eye is covered? Does the IR give you 2-way feedback, like volume control, or is that what the RS232 is for? From the iRule site, it seems that they have a IR cable that could plug into the back of my Denon and Oppo. Are there cheaper alternatives than their $32 cable? They also have a Dual IR Emitter, what would that be for? I've never used a IR Blaster, will it only work to control one device, or will it send IR signals to several devices? is there a cheaper IR blaster that will work, rather than their $45 one?

I assume I need one of these boxes:
The iTach WF2IR says up to 8 simultaneous connections. What does that mean? Or, can it only connect three devices via the three IR ports. What's the 3.5 stereo jack for?

If the RS232 is necessary for 2-way feedback, I suppose I'd need the Global Cache GC-100-6 or more if i need two RS232 or six IR ports. What feedback would I get from my Oppo, to need the RS232?

Thanks!
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post #7220 of 8455
11/17/12 at 4:56am
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Originally Posted by Rschissler View Post

Noobi Needs Hardware Help!
I'm thinking of using iRule as a remote for all my home theater devices. I've been looking at the iRule hardware page and am unsure what I need.The iRule site does a lousy job of explaining hardware needs. Here are the devices I'd like to control with the iRule:
Panasonic GT50 TV
Cisco cable/DVR box
Denon 3313 receiver: has RS232 and IR ports on the back
Oppo 103 Blu Ray player: has RS232 and IR ports on the back
Sony CD changer, 300 disc player
Sony VCR
Maybe lighting in the future
One thing I would like to avoid if possible is using those wired IR connectors that cover the IR eye on the front of a device. If I have to use them I will, but I find them unappealing.
If you are going IR you have a couple of options. 1. Use the IR input at the rear of the component. 2. crack open the emitter exposing just the tiny IR lamp and feed it through the back of the component to the front, near the receiving eye. 3. instead of placing the emitter over the receiving eye, try placing it on the self that the component sits on below the receiving eye and run the wire underneath the component.
If I do use them, does it prevent you from using the original remote, since the eye is covered?
No, it will not prevent the original remote from working.
Does the IR give you 2-way feedback, like volume control, or is that what the RS232 is for?
IR does not support two way feedback.
From the iRule site, it seems that they have a IR cable that could plug into the back of my Denon and Oppo. Are there cheaper alternatives than their $32 cable?
Yes, much cheaper.
They also have a Dual IR Emitter, what would that be for?
Dual emitters are simply a single plug on one end which splits into two emitters on the other.
I've never used a IR Blaster, will it only work to control one device, or will it send IR signals to several devices?
A blaster can control an unlimited amount of devices as long as they are all within line of sight of the blaster.
is there a cheaper IR blaster that will work, rather than their $45 one?
Yes, maybe even better, too.
I assume I need one of these boxes:
The iTach WF2IR says up to 8 simultaneous connections. What does that mean? Or, can it only connect three devices via the three IR ports. What's the 3.5 stereo jack for?
The iTach can accept 8 connections meaning, if you had 2 iPhones, 2 iPods, 2 iPads, and 2 iPad minis, they could all control the iTach at the same time. Again, if you had 3 dual emitters, you could control up to 6 devices using the three IR ports.
If the RS232 is necessary for 2-way feedback, I suppose I'd need the Global Cache GC-100-6 or more if i need two RS232 or six IR ports
RS232 and IP both support 2 way feedback. Most people might agree that IP is much simpler. What feedback would I get from my Oppo, to need the RS232?
Not familliar with Oppo, sorry.
Thanks!

Edited by mborner - 11/17/12 at 5:06am
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post #7221 of 8455
11/17/12 at 5:53am
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Originally Posted by Rschissler View Post

...What feedback would I get from my Oppo, to need the RS232?

From the Oppo you can get track number, elapsed time, time remaining, audio format and a bunch of less interesting stuff. I use it to give me a continuous display of elapsed time since a movie started. It updates every second. If you can easily see the front panel of the Oppo from where you sit then maybe you don't need iRule to display the time, but in my case the player is behind me.
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post #7222 of 8455
11/17/12 at 7:28am
Has anyone else received this error message when syncing :



I've sent the issue to Irule support but thus far they haven't been able to resolve it (the only response I've had is 'do you have the correct date/time on your Ipad?). My Ipad's date/time is set automatically.
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post #7223 of 8455
11/17/12 at 8:07am
Question on the navigation bar: I have hid it to gain more page space, and know that this comes with a risk of not being able to get back to the main settings page for syncing, etc. Is anyone using a link, if it can be done, to go back to the main page in order to change panels or update any settings?
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post #7224 of 8455
11/17/12 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

Thanks, that is a great help.

When you say I can get 2-way feedback from IP, does that mean that since my Denon, Panasonic, and Oppo are on my network, I won't need any wired connection for these devices, and I can use the ITach WF2IR?
Do you still need the IR connection to go with the 2-way feedback, or does RS232 and IP provide full control?

I wish I could get 2-way feedback from my CD changer as it would be nice to see what disc is playing, and to select another disc. Obviously, that won't work, since it is an older design. Even the new Sony models have the same outputs. Maybe an electronics whiz somewhere has done a hardwired tweak?
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post #7225 of 8455
11/17/12 at 9:47am
Can anyone explain the difference between 'pinned' and 'unpinned drawers'? I read the tutorial on the Irule website and it just isn't clear to me what the difference is. Thanks!
Edited by snodric - 11/17/12 at 3:48pm
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post #7226 of 8455
11/17/12 at 3:46pm
Guys. Got 2 questions:

1) For PS3, I assume I still need the bluetooth to IR receiver, or does PS3 offer IP control? (I don't think it had RS232)
2) My family sometimes call me at office telling me the harmony does not work... Wondering if I am using irule, can I use my iphone then to get it up and running? Can irule access my GC outside my LAN?
3) I had an ipad, and 2 iphone. I know I can control the GC using all 3 devices, but I am wondering how to make it work 'seamlessly". For example, what would happen if say I use my ipad to turn things on, but later on, i want to switch channel using my iphone? When I turn on my ipad irule, I assume it won't know my devices are on turn on, so how do I "enter" the channel select page without turning on again??
4) If I use the IR eye and stick it to my device, will it normally block other IR use? I am asking this because I still had my Harmony and I would like to use that as a backup.

Thanks!
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post #7227 of 8455
11/17/12 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by gogamer View Post

I've got all of the Integra feedbacks working great but I'm looking for a specific feedback that i haven't seen or can't seem to find. I know it's possible because i can see it work on another app called "Oremote"


The Oremote will show what audio is coming in and what is being put out.

This example shows exactly what it will show:


Audio

IN: 2.0

OUT: 2.0

or

Audio

IN: 5.1

OUT: 7.2


My gear is in a closet and at times I can't tell if i'm outputting 5.2 or 7.2 as quickly as I'd like. Would be excellent to know as it changes. My XBMC is mostly where this is an issue of not knowing.


The "OUT: 2.0 . . . or 5.1 . . . or 7.2" is the main feedback i need. Does this exist or how could i go about finding/creating that feedback?


Can you upload the Feedback to the Irule builder that gives this detail (i.e. that allow us to see the audio in and audio out)? Thanks!
Edited by snodric - 11/17/12 at 4:17pm
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post #7228 of 8455
11/17/12 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by Rschissler View Post

Thanks, that is a great help.
When you say I can get 2-way feedback from IP, does that mean that since my Denon, Panasonic, and Oppo are on my network, I won't need any wired connection for these devices, and I can use the ITach WF2IR?
Do you still need the IR connection to go with the 2-way feedback, or does RS232 and IP provide full control?
I wish I could get 2-way feedback from my CD changer as it would be nice to see what disc is playing, and to select another disc. Obviously, that won't work, since it is an older design. Even the new Sony models have the same outputs. Maybe an electronics whiz somewhere has done a hardwired tweak?
You can get two-way feedback from an IP "wired" connection. IOW, a device, such as your Denon receiver becomes the IP gateway, negating the need for an iTach for the control of the Denon. I believe the IP and the RS232 codes for the Denon are exactly the same in the iRule builder. Your devices will still need access to an ethernet cable from your switch/router/WAP if you want IP control w/feedback. Keep in mind that just because a component has an ethernet port on the back doesn't mean that the device can be controlled through that port. It's always best to contact the manufacturer and or documentation to confirm the usability of the ethernet port.
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post #7229 of 8455
11/17/12 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

You can get two-way feedback from an IP "wired" connection. IOW, a device, such as your Denon receiver becomes the IP gateway, negating the need for an iTach for the control of the Denon. I believe the IP and the RS232 codes for the Denon are exactly the same in the iRule builder. Your devices will still need access to an ethernet cable from your switch/router/WAP if you want IP control w/feedback. Keep in mind that just because a component has an ethernet port on the back doesn't mean that the device can be controlled through that port. It's always best to contact the manufacturer and or documentation to confirm the usability of the ethernet port.
Thanks, but that is still a little bit confusing. If I have a device that has WiFi built in and is connected to my network, that should be the same as using a ethernet port to connect to the network, right? You make it sound like it has to be through a ethernet port and not WiFi.

If a device has an internet remote app that can control the device, such as my Denon, Panasonic TV, and Oppo blu ray ( which only has an app for Android right now, not IOS yet) , it seems like that would be a good indication that it can be controlled via IP?
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post #7230 of 8455
11/18/12 at 3:59am

Sv: iRule

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Originally Posted by Rschissler View Post

If a device has an internet remote app that can control the device, such as my Denon, Panasonic TV, and Oppo blu ray ( which only has an app for Android right now, not IOS yet) , it seems like that would be a good indication that it can be controlled via IP?

Unfortunately, no. Some manufacturers do not publicize the IP interface/API, so you can only use their own app.

LG, for instance, have an app for their TVs but I still have to use IR with iRule.
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