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Tried that, making it shared still helps me none. The file is in the Library I created, see below.




And I don't have the drop down menu in the below pic to even select the background. See my above pic for reference.




Frustrated much? YES!!!

The reason you don't see the " all layers" menu is because you need to move the middle slider bar down. I use a 24" monitor, so it is a lot easier to have everything visible on the screen.

In the builder click on the images tab on the right, right click on one of the image libraries you've imported, and click on add image library. Name your new library in the panel on the lower left hand corner. Then right click on the library and select add image. A window will show up in which you can add up to 5 images at a time. Click on choose file and navigate to the image on your computer. After you've identified the images click on upload. The close the window and you'll find your images in your new library. You can also add images to and existing library.

Go to the page you want to add background to. Click the drop down box below the page and select background only. Right click on the background and delete the background. Navigate to your new background image and drag it over. Click the drop down box and select all layers, to show both your buttons and your background. You may have to scroll down in the page wondow to see the drop down box.
Edited by Steve Goff - 1/10/13 at 9:54am

By the way, you do not have to have an image show up when you browse the libraries in order to use it. You can make your own library for images that you want to use without sharing it with others.

I'm looking to integrate lighting into my iRule remotes, and would like views on the best and most cost effective way to proceed, starting with basic theater lighting, with the possibility of expanding to whole house lighting and control.

And there it is, staring me right in the face.

Thanks, I just created my first background.

Steve, I've had awesome success with Insteon switches and Irule including feedback. They have there new "insteon hub" out as the central controller, and while is sounds like it's getting beat up right now in the reviews I think it'll be an awesome device for the money when all the kinks are worked out.

I'm currently using a few smartlincs in homes with awesome success!

The switches seem expensive, and I was apprehensive, but after playing with them I am sold!

Thanks, I've been looking at Insteon, Leviton z-wave, and micasa verde (Veralite) so far.

What do you need on the lights side of things to get feed back? I thought IR would not give you feed back?

Does the Hub provide feedback, or is that for control by another device?

The insteon hub, and smartlinc is a dedicated controller that allows you to communicate with your insteon devices on your network.
You have to have the smartlinc or hub for any of the insteon devices.
When you use a program like irule, you send a command over your network, which is directed to the smartlinc or hub, the another command is sent to the Mac ID of the device.
A network gateway is created on the irule side and feedback is supported through network gateways.
Does this answer the question?

I got a switchlinc and a dimmer for Christmas and will get 2 more dimmers from Fedex tomorrow. Can you describe (and maybe share via the builder) how you have implemented this?

I'm looking to do a few scenes, TV watching, Gaming and Movies. Having control and feedback would be great.

Thanks!

I would love to share, are you wanting to see how to add feedback or how I've implemented them into my panels?

I'm very conversant with how iRule works, and have feedback on various devices. I know how to set up buttons, panels, gateways, etc. I understand how the Hub connects to your router, can be controlled by wireless devices, and controls the various Insteon units. I'm just wondering what device provides feedback. Does the the Hub or Smartlinc? What sort of feedback is supplied? It looks to me that the Hub may be meant to replace the Smartlinc, but don't know about the capability of the two or which might be preferred.
Edited by Steve Goff - 1/10/13 at 3:58pm

The Insteon hub is replacing the smartlinc to my knowledge but the hub looks to be capable of so much more. I think the smartlinc is capable of controlling 10 Insteon devices while the hub can control over 100+

I'm pretty sure the actual hub or switchlinc is responsible for giving feedback via the on-board micro-controller. I think the Hub/switchlinc queries the device and sends the feedback protocol to irule in our case.

Both the hub and the smartlinc have web-based user interfaces for setting up scenes and other macros.

It seems the Hub is the next generation and looks to be much more user friendly, with quite a bit more features.

As Steve said, I am familiar with iRule and feedback. I would like to.see how the insteon feedback looks and how you have set it up.

Should I return the smartlinc and get hub? Just getting started with lighting and other automation stuff (hvac control will be added when I replace my furnace in a year or 2). I don't want to paint myself in to a corner. I wasn't ready to spend the $ to get the ISY but is the hub closer in cost to the smartlic but an upgrade in performance?

Hi Josh,

Yes that answers my question. Now all I have to do is figure out which lights I can get here in Japan , as I don't is sold here Insteon. Maybe I could buy direct from USA.

Cheers

I purchased a fairly inexpensive Insteon kit (Smartlinc, Lamplinc, and Access pt) from Best Buy last month to give Insteon a try as I was using X10 and Lutron stuff for lighting but I wanted some sort of feedback. Got everything setup and liked it so I just purchased a Switchlinc. The Smartlinc is fairly basic in function (doesn't seem to do timers but does provide feedback and allows scenes) but long term I will look at the Hub once the kinks are worked out. The sample feedback supplied by iRule does work for an individual device but as you add devices you have to make changes to the code inthe iRule properties cause the byte string passed changes. Over in the iRule community forum, I asked the techs how to Tokenize feedback and found that is the way to go with feedback - with the help of the Docklight Scripting tool I got things working.

jidelite

JD, et.al: I recommend Lutron's RadioRA2 for lighting control. I love it. Works very well.

Thanks for the heads up GG.
Are you getting feedback with the Lutron? And good thing with Lutron is that it is sold here in Japan.

Is the insteon Hub Insteon's answer to the ISY? If so, how do they compare?

SC,

Any word on possible ETA for Oppo IP support?

Thanks,

WIllie

The question I'm wondering, and I think others as well, is what do you do with the feedback? What does the feedback show you? Like, it shows you that the light is at 60% brigtness or something?

Exactly. I have feedback that tells me 0%=OFF to 100%=Full On and everything in between...

jidelite

Yes, you can have, just like all other feedback, percentage values and the bar value.

While in it's current form is clunky at best, the real reason this is exciting is in the upcoming module that allows for the sliders. As the slider moves, a bulb icon built into the panel changes to match the value of the actual light in the room, ie. when the bulb is 60% in the living room, the feedback triggers the bulb on your panel to match it.

This is already an available module for the Leviton Z-wave series of lighting controls.

I wish. They're working on it, so it will happen, but it could take awhile because it isn't going to be a typical "drop the protocol into the Builder" sort of deal. Oppo made the IP control way, way more complicated than it needed to be. Sadly.

I honestly don't understand these companies. Especially a company like Oppo that seems to be mostly on the ball these days. All the AVR manufacturers had IP control fleshed out 3 or 4 years ago. Take your RS-232 serial protocol, put it on a UDP connection, pick a port, and you're done. Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer, and for the most part Yamaha... They work great. 3 years ago. For some reason, the BD and TV guys can't seem to do it without making it overly complex.

Can you detect a bit of frustration in my post?

SC

Stay after them Steve. Maybe they'll take some input from you guys. Hope so.

Scott

Oppo even managed to do RS-232 wrong the first time (feedback did not let you determine which command it was related to). For IP control they ought to realize it's not their area of expertise and seek advice, but it doesn't look like they're doing that.

Does the global cache have be connected directly to the router or can you connect wirelessly? If so I am screwed.

It depends on the unit. The WF2IR is a WiFi to IR device, and the WF2SL is a WiFi to RS232 device. But even in a house built in 1891 I've found ways to get Ethernet to all my rooms that need it.

And if you can get one Ethernet cable to the area, you can use a switch to get four or eight Ethernet connections at that location.
Edited by Steve Goff - 1/11/13 at 3:02pm