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post #7861 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

I bought my GC devices direct from the iRule web page. I also have already tried entering the IP manually in the iRule to see if it would work to no avail.
How do I know if the IR is being transmitted?
When I press the button on iRule , I get tow little red arrows down in the bottom left corner of the iPad flashing for about half a second. Is that what you are talking about?

In Irule, on the bottom. Did you see a Green "signal" sign on the bottom?
You can then pull it up, and then it should tell you if your gateway is connected. If it is Green, at least your gateway is connected.
connected does not automatically mean IR is being transmitted though, but then it is a matter of mapping the device and sending the right command over.
post #7862 of 9744
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

In Irule, on the bottom. Did you see a Green "signal" sign on the bottom?
You can then pull it up, and then it should tell you if your gateway is connected. If it is Green, at least your gateway is connected.
connected does not automatically mean IR is being transmitted though, but then it is a matter of mapping the device and sending the right command over.
I will check when I get home.
post #7863 of 9744
I have setup the GC-100-6 and it is showing up on Fing. Also, when I manually enter the IP address into my iPad and switch to panels I am getting the green connection symbol down the bottom. Also when touching a button I get green arrows flickering. However, nothing is happening to my devices that should be controlled. So something is amiss. I setup a new device in iRule builder and added three buttons only to control my TV, for test purposes. One for power, the other two to control volume. I dragged the codes to the buttons from the applicable devices codes. Still this did not work. Is this thing usually this hard to get setup, or am I just incompetent (rhetorical question, look at my sig)

The iTach, just does not want to play ball. It shows up on Fing and I can access the setup page, but when manually entering the IP address, it just does not want to connect. Sigh....

Edit: Changed the settings on the router and now I get signals from both iTach and GC-100-6. Still does not throw any IR signals though. Any Ideas?
Edited by JapanDave - 1/15/13 at 4:27am
post #7864 of 9744
Hi Dave,

Did you add the Global cache in the device section of irule on the handset?

If the GC is sending IR the red leds should light up on it, do you see those?

Are the devices in the builder assigned to all, or Global Cache in the lower left properties box.

What device are you trying to control? Are you using the Hex codes for that device? Network codes wont work.

When you search for devices with irule handset is the global cache unit located?
post #7865 of 9744
Did you add the Global cache in the device section of irule on the handset?

Not sure where that is?

If the GC is sending IR the red leds should light up on it, do you see those?

They are lighting up.

Are the devices in the builder assigned to all, or Global Cache in the lower left properties box.

I have them set to all.

What device are you trying to control? Are you using the Hex codes for that device? Network codes wont work.

For the time being I am trying to just control the Panasonic TV. I am using the codes shown in the below screen shot.

When you search for devices with irule handset is the global cache unit located?

Not sure what you mean here?

Thanks for the help.

post #7866 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Did you add the Global cache in the device section of irule on the handset?

Not sure where that is?

If the GC is sending IR the red leds should light up on it, do you see those?

They are lighting up.

Are the devices in the builder assigned to all, or Global Cache in the lower left properties box.

I have them set to all.

What device are you trying to control? Are you using the Hex codes for that device? Network codes wont work.

For the time being I am trying to just control the Panasonic TV. I am using the codes shown in the below screen shot.

When you search for devices with irule handset is the global cache unit located?

Not sure what you mean here?

Thanks for the help.


If IR leds are lighting up, then either your emitters arent getting signal to tv or the codes your using are wrong.

Click on one of the codes you highlighted and look at the properties box lower left in builder. It shows code type. Is it an ir code? Database codes confuse me, they are not IR necessarily I don't think. I have had intermittent success with codes that are "database"

Search for a Panasonic device in the builder that are "hex codes" If you don't find them in the irule search tab, click on user tab and search for a device in the builder that has "hex codes"

Are your emitters directly on the IR window? I found the IR output on the Globlal Cache units to be particularly weak and the emitters must be attached directly to the window to work.

Hope this helps and good luck.
post #7867 of 9744
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post


Are your emitters directly on the IR window? I found the IR output on the Globlal Cache units to be particularly weak and the emitters must be attached directly to the window to work.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Give this man a cigar!!! That was it, the IR emitters need to be right up against the IR receivers. Finally I am getting somewhere.
post #7868 of 9744
Next Problem.

How do you control several devices if the emitters have to right up against the IR receivers? At present I am trying to assigning the TV and Bluray to turn on when touching one button? But, only one of the IR emitters lights up when pressing that button???
post #7869 of 9744
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

Database codes confuse me, they are not IR necessarily I don't think. I have had intermittent success with codes that are "database"

just a note of clarification, unless something has changed that i've not heard about, database commands are always IR commands. "database" refers to the third party IR command database that irule has license to and incorporates into their product. pronto hex commands and global cache commands are also IR commands, they're just ones that don't come from the licensed database and are in different formats from each other.

i can't speak to why you've had intermittent success with database commands, other than to speculate that many of the devices in there are generic "all inclusive" devices (eg. panasonic tv all models) and all of the commands don't necessarily apply to every individual model. so perhaps your actual device doesn't utilize some of the commands that are part of your irule device's database, and those are the ones you're having trouble with. again, thats nothing more than a mostly random guess.
post #7870 of 9744
You can assign devices to different ir outputs on the handset.

Put Your BR player on ir 2.

post #7871 of 9744
Steve, Itai, did you guys see this at the show? Looks very interesting for iRule!

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/13/this-is-the-future/
post #7872 of 9744
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

You can assign devices to different ir outputs on the handset.

Put Your BR player on ir 2.

Thanks NIck, It was b/c the IR emitter was not close enough to the receiver.

And are not kidding when you say that the emitter has to be right on to of the receiver. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Can someone tell me why the IR learner will learn the volume up command for a device, but seems to pick up the wrong code for volume down???
post #7873 of 9744
Has anyone had much experience with the IR learner? B/c at the moment I am only getting a 2% success rate.

I got volume up on my CableTV handset to work, but any of the other buttons are a no go???
post #7874 of 9744
Never mind, I had the IR emitter too far away from the receiver.
post #7875 of 9744
The IR blaster does not even have a range of 6". What is the point of that?

And I can't get the iTach learner to learn the code for the number 5 on my cable remote and it won't learn the volume down on the speakers. What do I do with that?
Edited by JapanDave - 1/15/13 at 8:34am
post #7876 of 9744
Dave, what blaster are you using, and with which gateway? You can't take the blaster from the iTach and use it with a GC-100. The GC-100 doesn't have the driver current on its IR outputs to drive a blaster, so there is a special powered blaster for use with the GC-100.

If you are using the iTach blaster on the iTach, it has to be on the correct output (I believe it's port 3, farthest from the power connector), and you have to go into the iTach configuration to set the port as a blaster to increase output current.

SC
post #7877 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

Dave, what blaster are you using, and with which gateway? You can't take the blaster from the iTach and use it with a GC-100. The GC-100 doesn't have the driver current on its IR outputs to drive a blaster, so there is a special powered blaster for use with the GC-100.

If you are using the iTach blaster on the iTach, it has to be on the correct output (I believe it's port 3, farthest from the power connector), and you have to go into the iTach configuration to set the port as a blaster to increase output current.

SC
Hey SC, yes I am using it on the iTach in the 3rd port and I changed the settings for that iTach to match.

I am really surprised at how weak the signal is, is it supposed to be this weak?

Edit: My bad, I had the wrong iTach setup, I have 2.
post #7878 of 9744
Insteaon Smartlinc 2412N scene commands

I have created 3 scenes for my basement. I have 3 dimmers connected to 11 can lights in my basement.

I am trying to activate the scenes (numbered 1, 3, and 5 in the web-based controller for the smartlinc) via iRule. I can trigger them all via the web based interface. On, Off, dim and brighten commands all work exactly as expected there.

I'm having no luck via iRule. I have a network gateway with port 9761 as instructed elsewhere. I have imported the smartlinc scenes 1-20 device.

Command for scene 1 on looks like this: 3?0261011101=I=3

Gateway indicator is green, command indicator flashes green, no response on the lights.

I tried an HTTP gateway and got bizarre results, lights turning on and off repeatedly for several minutes until I exited the page.

I really have no use for controlling the lights individually by the switch ID. I would like to trigger the scenes I have created. Any help would be much appreciated.
post #7879 of 9744
Hi, did you find a good irule contact in Roanoke? I'm not one, but have the same interest. Looking to hire it done. Thanks
post #7880 of 9744
Anyone know what happened to http://www.irulecommunity.com/ ?
post #7881 of 9744
I think it fell to the wayside now that irule finally created their own support forum.
post #7882 of 9744
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

I think it fell to the wayside now that irule finally created their own support forum.

The iRule official forum is just horrible for anything other than support. We need a community one for sharing and caring. wink.gif
post #7883 of 9744
I agree, unfortunately when this thread went through its dark hour after irule got in trouble for not following forum guidelines I noticed a distinct drop in participation. I also think we are all avsforum addicts and we want to find it all right here without leaving the site. Irule needs to themselves come up with. Better way to share as the builder library becomes more and more jumbled!
post #7884 of 9744
Yeah, the library is just a huge ol'mess.
post #7885 of 9744
I recently realized that all my devices can be IP controlled one way or another except for my Xbox 360 which doesn't matter. My goal was to actually not purchase an iTach and see how far I can get without it. Unfortunately I wasn't aware of Panasonic's closed IP system. Anyway, I have a USB-UIRT and Homeseer so I think I can make a trigger for the UIRT to emit the TV's Power On code via its IR emitter. Once the TV is on it is rare that I send anything else to it. I guess I can map the other codes or somehow execute the Viera mobile app. Anyone have experience using a USB-UIRT with iRule?

I am currently using the iRule trial mode and have successfully added support for my Win8 WMC HTPC and Yamaha AVR using only IP. I've also figured out how to control my Z-wave lighting using IP triggers. I do wish the trial mode let you try out user graphics because I hate to spend much more time tweaking the trial layout if that work will be lost. How does the graphics import work? Will I have to remap everything or is it just a manual swap out of each graphic?
post #7886 of 9744
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I am currently using the iRule trial mode and have successfully added support for my Win8 WMC HTPC and Yamaha AVR using only IP. I've also figured out how to control my Z-wave lighting using IP triggers. I do wish the trial mode let you try out user graphics because I hate to spend much more time tweaking the trial layout if that work will be lost. How does the graphics import work? Will I have to remap everything or is it just a manual swap out of each graphic?
The work you do in the trial will not be lost if you buy a license, even if you do it after the trial period expires. You'll just be able to use the account again.

Graphics import is just an "upload" function. You can upload your own graphics for buttons and/or backgrounds. Drag-drop to add the graphics to a page to make a new button, or drag-drop on an existing button to replace the button graphic on the page with the one you uploaded. So, yes - a manual swap-out of each graphic; all the button commands can stay intact in your remote pages.

SC
post #7887 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Next Problem.

How do you control several devices if the emitters have to right up against the IR receivers? At present I am trying to assigning the TV and Bluray to turn on when touching one button? But, only one of the IR emitters lights up when pressing that button???
You can use a blaster to control several Units with one IR port. On my iTach port 3 can be used with the included blaster, and I use that blaster to control a blu-ray player and a projector and a small TV/monitor. I use another port to control another blu-ray that has an IR port on the back. You can also have one button that sends out two controls to two devices on two ports.
post #7888 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

The IR blaster does not even have a range of 6". What is the point of that?

And I can't get the iTach learner to learn the code for the number 5 on my cable remote and it won't learn the volume down on the speakers. What do I do with that?
My blaster works on everything in the room that I try to control. Only one of the iTach ports (port 3) supports the blaster. Are you sure your blaster is connected to the right port?
Edited by Steve Goff - 1/15/13 at 10:24pm
post #7889 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Steve Goff View Post

My blaster works on everything in the room that I try to control. Only one of the iTach ports (port 3) supports the blaster. Are you sure your blaster is connected to the right port?

I had the wrong device set to blaster, it works now. BTW, what distances are you getting signals picked up?

I am also now trying to connect the RS20i to the remote. It has its own IP address. My question is what port number should I use for this receiver?
post #7890 of 9744
Jus
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

I had the wrong device set to blaster, it works now. BTW, what distances are you getting signals picked up?

I am also now trying to connect the RS20i to the remote. It has its own IP address. My question is what port number should I use for this receiver?
Just bcos it had an IP address does not necessarily mean it can be controlled via IP. In fact, I think only the last 2 yr JVC model had ip control. The port is 20554.
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