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post #8041 of 8400
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Originally Posted by Jim Clamage View Post

In the bottom right hand corner of your device you will see a green (hopefully) gateway/device indicator. If you press the indicator the device drawer will come up showing the status of your gateways and devices. If you then double click the home button you can see live how the gateways/devices are affected (as above, some disconnect).
You also have to have "Show connection status" enabled in the Settings tab. I think it is by default, but more than once I've sat there pressing the little icon in the corner to no avail, because it was disabled in Settings.

Guys, I can't replicate this DirecTV feedback/gateway connection issue with my DirecTV and GC100, and my iTach is loaned out right now. I'll see if I can get it back this weekend and test.

One thing to remember is that HTTP gateways will always be green. The nature of an HTTP gateway (web server) is such that you can't just connect to it to see if it's live or not.

Try copy/pasting and deleting two of your feedbacks to another page (or copy the whole page and delete two feedbacks) so you only have one feedback, and see if it behaves any differently. One problem with the DTV boxes is that they're very slow. Some are extremely slow. If you want both multiple-channel feedback and good responsive control, you may need to use IP for feedback and IR for control.

SC
post #8042 of 8400
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

You also have to have "Show connection status" enabled in the Settings tab. I think it is by default, but more than once I've sat there pressing the little icon in the corner to no avail, because it was disabled in Settings.

Guys, I can't replicate this DirecTV feedback/gateway connection issue with my DirecTV and GC100, and my iTach is loaned out right now. I'll see if I can get it back this weekend and test.

One thing to remember is that HTTP gateways will always be green. The nature of an HTTP gateway (web server) is such that you can't just connect to it to see if it's live or not.

Try copy/pasting and deleting two of your feedbacks to another page (or copy the whole page and delete two feedbacks) so you only have one feedback, and see if it behaves any differently. One problem with the DTV boxes is that they're very slow. Some are extremely slow. If you want both multiple-channel feedback and good responsive control, you may need to use IP for feedback and IR for control.

SC
SC,
As mentioned previously, the delay is not with the Directv gateway, it is with the iTach gateway.
IOW, why is adding a Directv feedback affecting the iTach gateway connection speed?
post #8043 of 8400
Mborner,

is the itach set to static ip? Maybe its negotiating DCHP?
post #8044 of 8400
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

Mborner,

is the itach set to static ip? Maybe its negotiating DCHP?
Yes, it's a static IP address.
post #8045 of 8400
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

Hi have Foscam cameras, 3 of the model FI8918W.

Android currently doesn't support streaming video within Irule. I use the launch app function and the app IP Cam Viewer Pro to view my cameras in my android set up. Works great, gives full control of the cameras and then hitting the back button puts me right back in iRule.

I do use ipod touch and can view the camera streams, here is now I have it:

embedded URL: http://192.168.1.107:80/videostream.cgi?user=XXXX&pwd=XXXX&resolution=8

In an 4 wide by 8 high portrait page I have the embedded url set as 4x5 and scale to fit = NO.

I have a website where I can view the cameras externally, but for embedding in the ipod display using the internal IP address of the camera rather than my website works.

For control of the cameras the commands in the builder work:

LEFT: decoder_control.cgi?command=6&onestep=5
RIGHT: decoder_control.cgi?command=4&onestep=5

etc.

For the gateway in iRule I have: internal IP address, port, username and password, HTTP method GET and WOL OFF.



Hope that helps.

I am considering the purchase of some Foscam IP camera's, and was wondering what mount (if any) you purchased? I was thinking about getting one FI8905E (outdoor fixed bullet-style PoE), and two FI8910E (standard indoor PTZ PoE). They don't have the new 720p models available in PoE versions yet, but I look at these mainly as a deterrant.

Also, are you using NVR software, like Foscam's "Blue Iris"?

I have always lusted after Panasonic IP cameras, but they are just so expensive. Given that several users have these working in iRule with control and embedded video, I think the Foscam's are very tempting.

Thanks for any guidance.

Mark
post #8046 of 8400
I have one device that requires a 115k serial connection which my GC-100s don't support. I've been looking for a cheap ethernet to rs232 adapter I can use for this device and came across the Digi RS232 DC-SP-01-CF/W. Has anybody tried this with iRule? Any other suggestions?

Also, while I'm at it, does anybody have IR codes for the RCA 46LA45RQ? I've tried all the RCA codes I could find with no luck, I guess they changed them at some point. I'd hate to have to get the learner equipment since this is the only device I don't have codes for. Any help would be appreciated.
post #8047 of 8400
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I am considering the purchase of some Foscam IP camera's, and was wondering what mount (if any) you purchased? I was thinking about getting one FI8905E (outdoor fixed bullet-style PoE), and two FI8910E (standard indoor PTZ PoE). They don't have the new 720p models available in PoE versions yet, but I look at these mainly as a deterrant.

Also, are you using NVR software, like Foscam's "Blue Iris"?

I have always lusted after Panasonic IP cameras, but they are just so expensive. Given that several users have these working in iRule with control and embedded video, I think the Foscam's are very tempting.

Thanks for any guidance.

Mark

I don't use any software currently. I did have ispy set up for a while. I use mine cameras more to just keep an eye on my kids while I am doing something in a differnt room. No need to record or save any of that.

The cameras that I have came with a mount. I don't use them, just have them sitting on shelves.

I use android now for my main contol and use the launch app feature to launch the IP cam viewer pro app for viewing the feeds.

Hope that helps.
post #8048 of 8400
Anyone using iRule with an RCN TiVo? I plan on using iRule for my setup in my new condo, but wanted to play around with it with my current RCN TiVo. I've specified the port, just doesn't want to work. Thx!
post #8049 of 8400
Has it been mentioned when the next iRule update may be coming?
post #8050 of 8400
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Originally Posted by mborner View Post

SC,
As mentioned previously, the delay is not with the Directv gateway, it is with the iTach gateway.
IOW, why is adding a Directv feedback affecting the iTach gateway connection speed?

I have an iTach gateway in my chain (on the projector) and I don't notice any delays of the sort. What I DO notice is that it seems iRule takes a long time to process the feedback.

If I query the DTV boxes via my computer (easy, just go to http://192.168.0.18:8080/tv/getProgInfo?major=507 in a browser) I get a response within 120ms, usually less.

Given that I'm giving a .3 second delay between commands there is no way iRule should take as long as it does to display feedbacks, yet it does. I believe the slowness here is parsing on the iRule side of things, not the "function" of the feedback itself if that makes sense.
post #8051 of 8400
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Originally Posted by TheYoshi View Post

I have an iTach gateway in my chain (on the projector) and I don't notice any delays of the sort. What I DO notice is that it seems iRule takes a long time to process the feedback.

If I query the DTV boxes via my computer (easy, just go to http://192.168.0.18:8080/tv/getProgInfo?major=507 in a browser) I get a response within 120ms, usually less.

Given that I'm giving a .3 second delay between commands there is no way iRule should take as long as it does to display feedbacks, yet it does. I believe the slowness here is parsing on the iRule side of things, not the "function" of the feedback itself if that makes sense.
With no feedbacks used in my UI, iRule connects to both gateways (iTach and Directv) in less than a half second. If I add three feedbacks to my Directv page, iRule takes anywhere from five to ten seconds to connect to the iTach gateway. If I continue adding feedbacks to other pages in my UI, it's all over, as the iTach gateway will take anywhere from twenty to thirty seconds to connect to iRule. I've done away with feedbacks in my UI because it is critical that I have instantaneous connection to both gateways when my iPad comes out of sleep. Still trying to figure out why adding a feedback to my Directv page is affecting the connection speed to my iTach.
post #8052 of 8400
is there cliff note style set up guide for this thing ?
post #8053 of 8400
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

is there cliff note style set up guide for this thing ?

There's this http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/497964-all-irule-tutorials

As well as the free trial.

For your HTPC you can use this http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/474014
post #8054 of 8400
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Originally Posted by bcg27 View Post

Are any iRule users coming from using some of the higher end URC stuff like the MSC-400? I am wondering how iRule compares with the ability to track variables internally and use if-else statements for decision making.


Also since the 'remotes' for iRule are just cell phones and tablets do people find the charging requirements bothersome? I have to charge my cell phone every night and a tablet would probably be similar. It seems that it would be pretty easy to forget to charge one night and then be stuck without a remote for a while...

I'm testing iRule and have URC and MSC. This is where iRule really falls down. The lack of variables and conditional logic makes it unusable in so many arrears. Would be huge step back from my URC. I have mine programmed to behave like the Harmony (easy transition for Wife): you can do (for example) Watch TV and then do Watch Blu-ray. It knows which devices are on and which need to stay on or be turned on. In the case of the AVR, I can skip power-on delays (discrete on/off codes are no help for this) and it doesn't turn it off and then back on. I can also "step out" of an activity to a device and back in, and it knows it's already in the activity, so won't try and start it again (even if I press "Watch Blu-ray" again). There's no way this can be done without variables and conditional logic.

I also have it integrated with my HA system, so it raises the lights when you pause/stop a movie or turn off TV, but is smart enough to know if they are already on or the time of day.

For me to switch to iRule would be a huge step backwards (and I hate using touchscreen remotes unless I'm surfing a channel guide, music lib, etc. (so I use my iPad for that). I also want hard buttons--personal preference--(and not just the vol ones that iRule provides--but that's a start)

Regards

Mark
post #8055 of 8400
Okay, you hate touch screen remotes, so its unlikely you'd like iRule, and you don't in fact like iRule. Fair enough, though the limitations you see don't hinder my use and your examples are easy to accomplish using iRule.
post #8056 of 8400
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post #8057 of 8400
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Originally Posted by mark_anderson_u View Post

I'm testing iRule and have URC and MSC. This is where iRule really falls down. The lack of variables and conditional logic makes it unusable in so many arrears. Would be huge step back from my URC. I have mine programmed to behave like the Harmony (easy transition for Wife): you can do (for example) Watch TV and then do Watch Blu-ray. It knows which devices are on and which need to stay on or be turned on. In the case of the AVR, I can skip power-on delays (discrete on/off codes are no help for this) and it doesn't turn it off and then back on. I can also "step out" of an activity to a device and back in, and it knows it's already in the activity, so won't try and start it again (even if I press "Watch Blu-ray" again). There's no way this can be done without variables and conditional logic.

I also have it integrated with my HA system, so it raises the lights when you pause/stop a movie or turn off TV, but is smart enough to know if they are already on or the time of day.

For me to switch to iRule would be a huge step backwards (and I hate using touchscreen remotes unless I'm surfing a channel guide, music lib, etc. (so I use my iPad for that). I also want hard buttons--personal preference--(and not just the vol ones that iRule provides--but that's a start)

Regards

Mark

I know if my lights are on or off in irule. Just depends on what lights u r using. I get feedback with little light bulbs to let me know if the light is on or off and I have slides that show the level of my dimmers when I go to my lights pages. Like I said just need to be using the right stuff, just like u are using the right stuff that integrates with ur present remote. Even those companies don't support every light solution out there.
post #8058 of 8400
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

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post #8059 of 8400
I do agree that there are "workaround" to get some of the status (most of the time you will need RS232 and feedback), but I think having combination logic (especially "if-then-else") will be super useful and open up a lot of interesting ideas for irule. Today, most feedback query status comes back with some txt, and you can display the txt.. but I failed to find a way to "convert" that txt to a button to say light up "Blu-ray input" intelligently... I need to rely on the assumption that if I press the button, it will do the job, and then I make a link and then have a ON and OFF button to show the status. This is sometimes problematic to me as I am using an IR blaster and sometimes, they don't get the signal.. yet it will light up the button because that's just a link....
Anyhow, I do like the gesture which sort of mimics the hard button, if you will. you don't have to look at the screen once you get familiar with your setup.most of the time, there are only a few buttons you use most in a page anyway.
post #8060 of 8400
I never had a true universal remote before jumping in with iRule. So I have no experience with what the Harmony or URC could do, much less Control4 or some of the other very high end options.

I like DIY, I had a nearly useless ipod touch lying around and found a great use for it.

irule is not perfect but you do get out of it what you put in. If you really think about how you will use a remote and design around that you can come up with something that works for you. It doesn't do everything and certainly doesn't do everything easily.

The only times I miss hard buttons are when looking through my DVR list for a recording and looking through the guide for a show. i use gestures on a page for control of DVR which is most of my TV watching and use similar gestures for blu-ray and movie rip watching. DTV feedbacks for specific favorite channel listings finally working thanks to some hard work by members of this forum was one thing that was missing that has been resolved.

As the developers and active users continue to expand what this app can do it just gets better and better.
post #8061 of 8400
1. Complete noob at this. Have harmony remote, it's....OK.
Typing this in on my iPad, so I already have some of the hardware. If I were to want to control a Marantz 8801 preamp, two Directv HD receivers, and an HTPC, all wired into the network - am I crazy or is there no additional hardware required?
post #8062 of 8400
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

1. Complete noob at this. Have harmony remote, it's....OK.
Typing this in on my iPad, so I already have some of the hardware. If I were to want to control a Marantz 8801 preamp, two Directv HD receivers, and an HTPC, all wired into the network - am I crazy or is there no additional hardware required?
You probably could control all of these using IP, so you'd need enough Ethernet connections to make it happen. I just went from a four port switch to an eight port switch in my theater room, in order to have enough connections for all of my gear (preamp, two blu-ray players, projector, HTPC, iTach IP2IR, etc.).
post #8063 of 8400
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

1. Complete noob at this. Have harmony remote, it's....OK.
Typing this in on my iPad, so I already have some of the hardware. If I were to want to control a Marantz 8801 preamp, two Directv HD receivers, and an HTPC, all wired into the network - am I crazy or is there no additional hardware required?

where is your display?? smile.gif
Most TV does not have IP remote (or most don't allow turning ON/OFF via IP). JVC and sony projector do have IP control though.
post #8064 of 8400
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

where is your display?? smile.gif
Most TV does not have IP remote (or most don't allow turning ON/OFF via IP). JVC and sony projector do have IP control though.

Good point on the display. Was just thinking about "easing" into the iRule, TVs would have to be turned on and off with old fashioned remotes.
post #8065 of 8400
I was curious if anyone was using irrigation controllers from either IrrigationCaddy or Etherrain with iRule? I searched and found some posts from 2011 that some were investigating, but nothing more recent.

Thanks.

Mark
post #8066 of 8400
Has anyone been able to get XBMC FRODO Feedbacks to work with iRule?

I have added the network code

jsonrpc?{"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"Player.GetItem","params":{"playerid":1,"properties":["title"]},"id":2}

in order to retrieve the information, I just don't know how to display the retrieved info in iRule

















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Edited by johnsills1 - 2/16/13 at 2:11pm
post #8067 of 8400
I have a noob question,If I create an interface with say an Preamp button and also make a page with all the controls for the preamp and name it page 2.How do I make it so that when I press the preamp button it automatically goes to page 2?I tried to make a link to page 2 but am not able to do so.When I press the link option the option for page 2 is not there.
post #8068 of 8400
I will do my best to answer that question.....

When you create a page, it is normally called a panel.......Inside of each panel, you can create "Pages" (Landscape or Potrait)

When you create a button, right click it and convert it to a link. On the bottom left portion of the web page, you will see the box that states "NAME" Properties. "Name" would be the name of your Panel

With the button/link highlighted, you will see in the Panel Properties Box a line named Panel Name. Click on that drop down box and select the name of the panel you want the link to reference. Look down further for Page Name and click on the drop down box and pick the Page that you want to reference on the Panel you selected above.

Hope that helps
post #8069 of 8400
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Originally Posted by johnsills1 View Post

I will do my best to answer that question.....

When you create a page, it is normally called a panel.......Inside of each panel, you can create "Pages" (Landscape or Potrait)

When you create a button, right click it and convert it to a link. On the bottom left portion of the web page, you will see the box that states "NAME" Properties. "Name" would be the name of your Panel

With the button/link highlighted, you will see in the Panel Properties Box a line named Panel Name. Click on that drop down box and select the name of the panel you want the link to reference. Look down further for Page Name and click on the drop down box and pick the Page that you want to reference on the Panel you selected above.

Hope that helps
THANK YOU! could not get that basic concept!!DOH.It seems logical now.I even emailed Irule support but was not able to explain to them what I was trying to do.
post #8070 of 8400
Glad I could help
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