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Originally Posted by Rich Gibson 

That would be very difficult if I understand your instructions. The 2412n is located in another room and the four light switches are down the hall in the family room. There aren't any instructions in the manual that I can find to that effect. I did find a solution at the iRule help site. I reset my Mac modem and the cable modem and turned on each light switch before pressing them. Just before each switch blinked I heard a faint bleep from the 2412n down the hall. They are working now. Strange.

Originally Posted by Rich Gibson 

I've got everything working except the feedback. Thanks everyone. I want to use a lamp dimmer for a fan in my gym. I've got it working with the iRule Insteon network gateway partial settings but the range (0:00, 13:20, 25:40, 38:60, 50:80, 75:90 and 100:FF ) don't work well for ventilation. I need to get them between 50 and 100: 50, 63, 75, 88,100. I don't have the values for those settings. I feel kind of stupid but can someone help me? I need the values for 63% and 88%. Thanks,


Rich

Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 

I think the cheapest solution is to add an adapter such as this to each device's DB9 connector, then just buy standard (and cheap) network cables.

The adapters can be wired any way you want (they are not wired up when you buy them), but you have to know the pinout of the Digiport connectors and wire accordingly, so it can be a little tricky.

Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 

There's more than one way to do RS-232 over ethernet cables. For example, I don't believe the Digi PortServer uses the same standard as RS-232D. Do you know of a specific cable that's been tested with a PortServer?

The Monoprice adapters are a safe bet because they can be wired any way (and they're 60 cents each so you can buy a few extra). The PortServer RJ45 pinout is documented in the manual you can download from the Digi web site (www.digi.com).

Originally Posted by absolootbs 

i'm gonna say that was definitely an isolated incident. my ts16 is 100% reliable. i've not had to reboot it once (other than when power's gone out or i've moved it from one location to another) in the 9 months i've been using it.
if it saves anyone from having to reinvent the wheel...

the digi has TX on rj45 pin 4, RX on rj45 pin 5, and GND on rj45 pin 6. (note that in digi's published pinouts, these are listed as pins 5, 6, and 7. thats because the digi's ports are 10 pin. an 8 pin rj45 (eg. ethernet) makes contact with digi pins 2 - 9. so digi pin 5 = rj45 pin 4, and so on.)

and my rj45/db9 monoprice adapters were wired as follows:

rj45 pin wire color
1.............blue
2.............orange
3.............black
4.............red
5.............green
6.............yellow
7.............brown
8.............white

be aware though that i've read the pinouts on the monoprice adapters have been known to change from time to time. so you may still want to check at least a couple of them with a continuity tester or multimeter. i'd venture to guess that if you check two or three of them and they match mine, then the rest probably will too.

Originally Posted by Rich Gibson 

I've got everything working except the feedback. Thanks everyone. I want to use a lamp dimmer for a fan in my gym. I've got it working with the iRule Insteon network gateway partial settings but the range (0:00, 13:20, 25:40, 38:60, 50:80, 75:90 and 100:FF ) don't work well for ventilation. I need to get them between 50 and 100: 50, 63, 75, 88,100. I don't have the values for those settings. I feel kind of stupid but can someone help me? I need the values for 63% and 88%. Thanks,


Rich

Originally Posted by giomania 

I purchased a used Digi PortServer TS16 70001733, and performed a little research on the pinout of the cables. I found the Digi Cable Guide, which covers all PortServer TS, Digi Connect, and Digi One products. The document is 154 pages long, so I extracted the pages attached below, which have pinout information for RJ-45 (8-PIN) to DB-9 cable terminations.

I am confused because all the excerpts below list 8-Pin, vice 10-Pin RJ-45 connectors, making the pinout arrangements differ from what you posted above. Would you please take a look and let me know if I am understanding this correctly, and if I found the correct documents to allow me to wire the Monoprice adapters for use with the Digi PortServer and iRule?

Thanks.

Mark

This page provides the pinout arrangement when using their RJ-45 to DB-9 adapter, which should also work with the Monoprice adapter, I would think.

Digi Cable Guide Excerpt - RJ-45 to DB-9 Cable Adapter.pdf 48k .pdf file

Capture of the above document, for ease of reference and discussion:



This page provides the pinout arrangement for a PC Terminal Emulator cable when going from RJ-45 to DB-9. The pinout arrangement matches the above document, except for PIN 8, which dictates using DB-9 PIN 6 instead of both 1 and 6 on the adapter above.

Digi Cable Guide Excerpt - PC Terminal Emulator Cables Altpin RJ-45 to DB-9.pdf 64k .pdf file

This page provides the pinout arrangement for a Modem cable when going from RJ-45 to DB-9. The pin-out does not match the above documents, so I don't think this diagram applies to wiring for iRule, but I am wondering when this might be used?

Digi Cable Guide Excerpt - EIA-232 Modem Cables Altpin RJ-45 to DB-9.pdf 65k .pdf file

Originally Posted by absolootbs 

the digi documentation you found correctly references the pins from the perspective of an 8 pin connector. notice that the pin numbers in your document (4 for tx, 5 for rx, and 6 for sg) match up with the ones i specify for an rj45 ethernet connector in my post. your documentation is simply ignoring digi pin 1 and digi pin 10, since they won't make contact with anything on an 8 pin connector. if you look at any documentation for the actual digi itself, which has 10 pins, it will list those same signals on pins 5, 6, and 7.

long story short, my post and your documentation say the same thing - that pins 4, 5, and 6 of an 8 pin rj45 connector are what matter. i caused the confusion by adding the unnecessary part about the digi's actual pinout in my original post. sorry bout that

EDIT: and i just realized that i may have furthered the confusion by referring to the signal ground (sg) as "GND" in my original post, when in fact a different pin is labeled as "Ground" in your documentation. still though, what i said above is correct: it's pins 4, 5, and 6 of an 8 pin rj45 connector that matter when plugged into a digi.

Originally Posted by giomania 

Cool beans! Thanks. Any insight on whether to use RJ-45 Pin 8 for DB-9 Pin 1, 6, or both?

Mark

Originally Posted by giomania 

Any insight on whether to use RJ-45 Pin 8 for DB-9 Pin 1, 6, or both?

Originally Posted by giomania 

Cool beans! Thanks. Any insight on whether to use RJ-45 Pin 8 for DB-9 Pin 1, 6, or both?

Mark

Originally Posted by absolootbs 

not sure. depends on what you're trying to control and whether or not it requires those signals (dtr, dcd/dsr). for the strong majority of things it won't make any difference. all they'll care about is tx, rx, and sg (rj45 pins 4, 5, and 6; db9 pins 2, 3, and 5). i use my digi to control an extron matrix switcher, an onkyo receiver, a panasonic projector, and an insteon plm, and none of them use anything but those three.

Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 

You should not need RJ-45 pin 8 (which is just as well because it's not so easy to connect it to 2 places in the adapter).

I would just connect pins 4, 5, 6 plus 2 and 7 (the last 2 are RTS/CTS and are not always needed, but it's worth connecting them so the adapter can be used with other devices if you ever need to).

Then I usually cut off the pins I don't need before closing the adapter.

Originally Posted by giomania 

Thanks for the input, guys. I modified the Adapter wiring Pin-out excerpt accordingly...

Originally Posted by osupike99 

Hi Rich,

I believe you contacted iRule support and I modified your devices, feedback and GUI. Did that not work?




Alex

Originally Posted by Steve Goff 

For most Onkyo/Integra preamps you can turn the unit on by selecting an input. I turn on mine with the input command for whatever input I'm using for the particular activity.

Originally Posted by Rich Gibson 

Oh yes, I forgot about that. Sometimes I punch the button for cable to turn it on. Doh! Thanks very much.

Rich

Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 

I assume you tried the usual turn it off and back on again (by physically pulling the power cord, not just with the power button). Often these strange problems are fixed by a reboot.

Originally Posted by SJHT 

That's what I do for macro commands. I let it repeat on the panels where I'm doing a lot of projector control. Example using the projector menu via cursor commands. SJ

Originally Posted by pauleyc 



Does it respond quickly?

Originally Posted by pauleyc 

I'm having an issue with my Oppo 103. Most of the time (70% or more) the control and feedback work just fine; however once and a while it stops responding and I either just have to wait or go back out of the activity and back in. This issues the verbose command again and doesn't always help. It may be just timing and that issuing that command again does nothing to fix it. It eventually goes back to normal and will work again for a period of time. I'm using irule with an ipad mini and a GC-100 via serial. I'm pretty sure the cable is right or it would work at all. Any ideas? The Oppo still responds to IR just fine (better actually) so my fear is that it is the GC100.

Originally Posted by giomania 



Thanks for the input, guys. I modified the Adapter wiring Pin-out excerpt accordingly.




Mark

Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 

Do you have the tool that lets you remove pins from the adapter if necessary? You can assemble the adapter without a tool (although you have to be very careful to fully insert the pins), but you need the tool to remove pins if you get something wrong.

Also it's useful to have a DB9 null modem adapter in case you get it wrong the first time (the null modem adapter swaps Rx/Tx and RTS/CTS).

Other than that, Tx on pin 2 is normal for a slave device that requires a straight serial cable, so Denon is not really a special case.