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post #8251 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

Phones are connected to the same router.

Ist Phone IP is 192.168.0.101
Itachs IP's are 192.168.0.108 and 109

Phones can see the router if I put in 192.168.0.1 but they can't see the Itachs.
The tablets and main computer can see the Itachs.

Pinging the Itachs from the router works.

How are the routers connected?
post #8252 of 9755
The downstairs router is where cable comes in.
The upstair router, (this is the one we are using for Irule), is connected to the downstairs by an ethernet cable.
post #8253 of 9755
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Quick question guys.. I have been able to get XBMC work on the ipad.. I am using MCE, however I have only been able to make XBMC work with moving the cursors via the ipad, but how do i launch XBMC? I have been following the irule guide.
http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/469432

It shows how to add codes for cursors etc, but does not show how to launch xbmc via irue through a source button. Any help appreciated.

Ok guys, is this request totally inappropiate, impossible? I know members in here have done it, but i am unable to find a way to start xbmc via irule.
post #8254 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

The downstairs router is where cable comes in.
The upstair router, (this is the one we are using for Irule), is connected to the downstairs by an ethernet cable.

What port on the upstairs Router is the Ethernet Cable from the downstairs Router connected to?
post #8255 of 9755
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Ok guys, is this request totally inappropiate, impossible? I know members in here have done it, but i am unable to find a way to start xbmc via irule.

Never Mind, i was able to figure out using EventGhost.
post #8256 of 9755
Upstair router has the ethernet cable in 'internet' port.
post #8257 of 9755
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Quick question guys.. I have been able to get XBMC work on the ipad.. I am using MCE, however I have only been able to make XBMC work with moving the cursors via the ipad, but how do i launch XBMC? I have been following the irule guide.
http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/469432

It shows how to add codes for cursors etc, but does not show how to launch xbmc via irue through a source button. Any help appreciated.
You can use MCE Controller to launch a program. This is explained in the documentation, and I think there are still posts in this thread about it. Look in the commands file and copy the way it opens Notepad. I'd explain more fully but I'm responding via my phone.
post #8258 of 9755
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Never Mind, i was able to figure out using EventGhost.
MCE Controller works too. There are devices to control xbmc via Jason.
post #8259 of 9755
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Well on my way with setting up all the devices on the irule, including the Denon 4311CI with the IP2SL (which i had issues with earlier using ip2ir, wanted to thanks every member on this forum who helped me via PM's or on this thread. And a very heartily thank to Steve to be my guiding light smile.gif
All working well so far.

Just made buttons for Spotify and JRiver using photoshop, incase anyone wants to use in the future.






I have seen members in here are able to see the album/song currently played and playlists of various players on their ipad's/iphones.. however i havent seen any tutorial for that on the irule support section except for itunes.
Can i do this via spotify or jriver media player? If so, please can someone post me back to that thread?

Nice job on the buttons. For controlling jriver you can use web gizmo which is just a web based control for jriver. You can embed the webgizmo address as a URL in irule and use it to navigate control and view now playing. Go to jriver interact for info on setting up webgizmo and then the irule tutorial for embedding a URL page.
post #8260 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

Upstair router has the ethernet cable in 'internet' port.

With the cable in the Internet Port you have two separate networks.

You need to turn off DHCP on the upstairs Router and plug the cable into a LAN Port.
post #8261 of 9755
What exactly will that do? Create one network with 2 wifi antennas?
Are you sure this is causing my problem?
post #8262 of 9755
I guess I'm a little scared to mess with the system 'cause it takes so long to set it back up.
post #8263 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

I guess I'm a little scared to mess with the system 'cause it takes so long to set it back up.

I left out one important thing in my last post. You need to make sure that the wireless routers do not have the same IP Address.

You are using the router that is attached to your cable provider as both a Router and a Wireless Access Point. The upstairs router will only be used as a Wireless Access Point and not as a router.

DHCP is the function that provides addresses dynamically when a device attaches to the Network. Only one device on the network should be providing this service. That is why DHCP Needs to be turned off on the upstairs Wireless Router.

Before changing anything else on the upstairs router you should change the IP Address from the default. Leave the first three numbers as they are and change the fourth to 254. This should avoid an address conflict.

After changing the IP Address you will need to access the Router with the new address and turn off DHCP.

With the way things are connected now you can access the Internet from devices connected to either router. However, you cannot connect to devices connected to the downstairs router from devices connected to the upstairs router and vice versa.
post #8264 of 9755
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Originally Posted by Steve Goff View Post

You can use MCE Controller to launch a program. This is explained in the documentation, and I think there are still posts in this thread about it. Look in the commands file and copy the way it opens Notepad. I'd explain more fully but I'm responding via my phone.

Steve thanks for your reply, initially i tried using MCE Controller, i was successfully able to start WMC, and do other things, but i wasnt able to do so with XBMC. i tried modifying the command file as well.. however after an entire day and looking at the data code section in irule builder i realised that the i will have to prefix x0D after every command. But by the time i realized that i had already experimented wtih event ghost and had success with it.
The other thing i like about event ghost is, using it with VoxCommando to control the HTPC with voice commands, infact even home automation. And now i am working on implementing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKyITuR5wjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqDz26fwAo

My apologies for bringing an irreverent idea in this thread. But sharing something that i found with an add-on component that can also be used with irule.
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Originally Posted by Steve Goff View Post

MCE Controller works too. There are devices to control xbmc via Jason.

I do see a lot of Jason versions of XBMC under the devices section, will you be able to quote which i should use. Although.. eventghost works fine, but i would still like to see if mce works better.
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

Nice job on the buttons. For controlling jriver you can use web gizmo which is just a web based control for jriver. You can embed the webgizmo address as a URL in irule and use it to navigate control and view now playing. Go to jriver interact for info on setting up webgizmo and then the irule tutorial for embedding a URL page.

Thanks for the tip Cheezeit, i learnt about webgizmo from Steve via a pm, i still have to implement it, will try it out on sunday. What about spotify? I use spotify more than any other music player. smile.gif
post #8265 of 9755
RD-Everything is currently connected to the upstairs router so I believe connecting the routers from LAN-WAN to LAN-LAN will not help.

I will try it if you can give me some reason for while it will fix my problem with the phones.
post #8266 of 9755
@FSE, just adding my two cents, had read on certain forum few weeks back, someone had a similar problem a bit as you. He had multiple devices in his home that were to be hooked on the wifi network and only a few devices were able see the wifi network while scanning for his Sid. While other few we're not able to lookup that Sid, his issue got resolved when he swapped his router with a new dual band router and set two SIDS with 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz bandwidth. The the devices that were not visible earlier were finally working on either of the bandwidth. I am not sure if a new router can fix your issue but you cud take a chance with swapping out one of the Motorola docis 3.0 modem and a strong dual band router such as the asus rt-n66u if it doesn't work u cud always return it back
post #8267 of 9755
sorry in advance if I am simply missing the obvious, or don't know how to do a proper "search".
where can I find a library of alternate buttons w/ art (channel icons in particular) from those that come with iRule?
post #8268 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

RD-Everything is currently connected to the upstairs router so I believe connecting the routers from LAN-WAN to LAN-LAN will not help.

I will try it if you can give me some reason for while it will fix my problem with the phones.

You say "everything" is connected to the upstairs router. Look at both wired and wireless devices. Are all the wireless devices including those that don't find the iTachs connected to the upstairs router? If not, that is the problem.

What is the name of the upstairs wireless? Is it different from the downstairs wireless? Which wireless are the devices that can't find the iTachs connected to?
post #8269 of 9755
Yes, all wireless devices are connected to the upstairs router including the phones, (that can find the gateways with proper IP addresses via Irule).
People seem to keep thinking that I have some of the pieces on a different WIFI network but I don't, that's what makes this puzzling.
The phones see the gateways on WIFI via Irule but won't send a signal to them.
post #8270 of 9755
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Originally Posted by FSE View Post

Yes, all wireless devices are connected to the upstairs router including the phones, (that can find the gateways with proper IP addresses via Irule).
People seem to keep thinking that I have some of the pieces on a different WIFI network but I don't, that's what makes this puzzling.
The phones see the gateways on WIFI via Irule but won't send a signal to them.

What do you see in the lower right corner of the Panel?

Tap on the icon to see list of Gateways on the left and devices on the right.

Are all of your gateways and devices shown?

Go to your equipment where you can see one of the IR emitters. Go to the panel that controls the device with that emitter. Tap one of the buttons on the panel and see if the emitter flashes. If it does, but the device does not respond, go back to the Builder and check that you are using the correct device codes. If it doesn't flash, you probably don't have a green icon in the lower right corner.
post #8271 of 9755
All gateways and devices are shown in the menu.
No flashing on the Itach when buttons are pressed.
In the upper right I have a spinning wheel that starts out white and then goes to an red icon, (no gateway connection?)
The arrows in the upper left are not green but red when a signal is sent.
post #8272 of 9755
Hey guys,

I found this under XBMC Panel, anyone know's where i pick up the blanks, and other icons under these series. The layout can be better, but i am more interested in the buttons, and few icons seen in this screenshot such as the applications and remote icons. Although i can photoshop and make one of these blank buttons in similar glass effect, but the new button does not fit along with the old ones.. even if i try to place them togather, they are a bit way off.


Edited by holyindian - 4/14/13 at 1:51pm
post #8273 of 9755
OK. I moved everything to the downstairs router and it works, but not well.
The phones seems to still have some issues with communicating with the WIFI, could be the range is too long.
I will update if anything changes but for now it is working, just not as well as I would like.
post #8274 of 9755
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

Serial can be frustrating because there are many non-working permutations and only one that works, so it's easy to chase your tail changing things an never hitting the right combo. The baud rate is wrong and you're trying cables. You finally get the baud rate right, and you've switched to a wrong/bad cable. You get the cable right and baud rate right, but the wrong device was in Builder the whole time. So, you have to get systematic...

1. Make sure you are using the Anthem RS-232 device, not the IR device; the default name is "Anthem Receiver/Preamp Main Zone RS232"
2. Double-check that the IP2IR's serial port settings are correct, and that they match the Anthem; some Anthem models are configurable in their setup menu, I believe.
3. Test several different commands. With power on, try volume up/down, mute, and maybe an input. Make yourself a test page with only 3-4 buttons on it.
4. If you've confirmed via all the above, then it's most likely the cable. You'll want to try with the straight cable you have, and if that doesn't work, then a null cable (or a null adapter with the straight cable).

If you try all that, and you still can't get it to work, then its possible (not likely, but possible) that the iTach could be bad or the serial port on the Anthem could be bad. In that case, you could try controlling another RS-232 device in your system (if you have one available) to confirm if the iTach is working.

Let me know what you've tried and haven't tried and we can go from there.

SC

This post reminded me that I wanted to ask why some serial control protocols do not specifically identify the setting for "Flow Control". Perhaps there is another term for this setting? I provide this snip from the Denon AVR-4311CI as a point of discussion:




Thanks for any information.

Mark
post #8275 of 9755
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

This post reminded me that I wanted to ask why some serial control protocols do not specifically identify the setting for "Flow Control". Perhaps there is another term for this setting? I provide this snip from the Denon AVR-4311CI as a point of discussion:

You can tell there is no hardware flow control because only RXD and TXD are connected (no RTS/CTS). Software flow control is less common, and even then the "non-procedural" comment suggests there is none.

They should be more explicit, but Denon is not known for good manuals in general.
post #8276 of 9755
I've looked through these forums and couldn't really find a definite answer so guess I'll ask here.

Does the iRule support sequences? If so how long?

Equipment:
Panny AE8000
Onkyo 809 Receiver
Panny Bluray player
___________DVD/VHS player

I will also have several Insteon light switches with dimmers. Will I be able to set up sequences for one button to hit play on the movie AND dim the lights at the same time?

How many activities and devices can it control?

Also, does anyone use it with a Kindle Fire? Curious about the performance.

Thanks.
post #8277 of 9755
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Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

I've looked through these forums and couldn't really find a definite answer so guess I'll ask here.

Does the iRule support sequences? If so how long?

Equipment:
Panny AE8000
Onkyo 809 Receiver
Panny Bluray player
___________DVD/VHS player

I will also have several Insteon light switches with dimmers. Will I be able to set up sequences for one button to hit play on the movie AND dim the lights at the same time?

How many activities and devices can it control?

Also, does anyone use it with a Kindle Fire? Curious about the performance.

Thanks.

I have the app on two original Kindle Fire devices, but have only used it for testing thus far. That said, they seem to work fine.

One day I will sit down and do all the programming required to use iRule full-time. Too many projects...too little time.

Mark
post #8278 of 9755
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Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

I've looked through these forums and couldn't really find a definite answer so guess I'll ask here.

Does the iRule support sequences? If so how long?

Yes, a single button can send a sequence of commands (with delays in between if needed). I don't think there's a real limit on the length of a sequence.

You should check the iRule support page on their web site. There are plenty of tutorials and videos that should answer most of your questions.
post #8279 of 9755
I'm looking to add control of my Mac Mini with iRule IR commands. Is there a way to find the Apple Re mote ir commands without buying one and using iLearn? Not a big deal though, they cost less than $20.

Thanks, Rich
post #8280 of 9755
Ok i'm really starting to like the iRule.

If I go with Insteon dimmer switches and outlets will I still need this: http://www.smarthome.com/2411R/IRLinc-Receiver-IR-to-INSTEON-Converter/p.aspx with the iRule?

If I go with Lutron dimmer siwtches can this: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products/Pages/StandAloneControls/Dimmers-Switches/MaestroIRDimmer/Overview.aspx be controlled by iRule?
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