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post #8551 of 9744
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Originally Posted by jimim View Post

Just wanted to share that I started working on integrating my DSC panel into iRule. My first step was to get the panel online with a eyezon EVL3. I still monitor with my current company. I'm only using the EVL3 to monitor myself and control from my phones and iPads. This is then integrated into the micas vera which is working very well. Now I'm going to carry this control over into irule hopefully through the vera cause it's faster. The team is helping me with this. I'll let you guys know how I make out for anyone else interested.

Next is irrigation. I really want control outside my house so if away and we get a random heat wave i can take action. right now i water 3 times a week but last week was deff a 7 day a week kinda week!

jim

While these have nothing to do with iRule, there are a couple of irrigation controllers that I researched last year: Irrigation Caddy and Quicksmart EtherRain. I went with an EtherRain irrigation controller, and it is working fine for me. I run it with a computer running 24/7/365, but there are other options; a website called Lawncheck or Mi Casa Verde automation controller, I think.

In the event this helps you, I will share with you what I learned about irrigation during the research and setup phase of EtherRain. Basically, it is better to water 1-2 times per week deeply, versus watering 3-7 days per week. When you water too little multiple times, the roots become shallow, and the turf will not be in a position to withstand hot and dry periods. I live in Northern Illinois, and the extension office advises that lawns here need 1"-2" a week to survive; 1" below 80 degree, 2" when above 80 degrees. I changed from a 3-day a week schedule to a 2-day a week schedule, and put a maximum of 2" of water on the turf in each zone, when it is above 80 degrees. I live in an area with very expensive water, so my goal is to give the lawn the minimal amount needed, while promoting deep root growth. I had been doing it wrong for years, and spending a lot of money in water bills. This is the first year, so I am going to see how the lawn does.

I hope this helps.

Mark

Edit: Corrected the information provided about controlling EtherRain.
Edited by giomania - 7/27/13 at 5:36pm
post #8552 of 9744
I am considering irule for my soon to be completed dedicated room with all equipment outside of the room. I have an Insteon setup I will be using for lighting control.

I am unsure about what type of Global Cache I will need. My equipment is as follows.

-JVC RS45
-Emotiva XPA-5
-Denon 4311
-PS3/PS4
-360/One
-Wii/Wii U
-DVR box
-QSC DSP30
-Plan on adding a Synology box

Is there any advantage to controlling any of these devices with RS232? Or can I use IR for everything? I was looking at the GC-100-6 and the iTach IP2IR if I don't need RS232. I understand there is a converter to go to RS232 as well if I need to (is that correct)? And can't I just add a 3 way IR splitter if I need more IR wires?

Any considerations for playing nice with the Insteon setup? I will be using the ISY 994i. http://www.insteon.com/12237DB-ISY-994i.html

Thanks,

Grant
post #8553 of 9744
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

I am considering irule for my soon to be completed dedicated room with all equipment outside of the room. I have an Insteon setup I will be using for lighting control.

I am unsure about what type of Global Cache I will need. My equipment is as follows.

-JVC RS45
-Emotiva XPA-5
-Denon 4311
-PS3/PS4
-360/One
-Wii/Wii U
-DVR box
-QSC DSP30
-Plan on adding a Synology box

Is there any advantage to controlling any of these devices with RS232? Or can I use IR for everything? I was looking at the GC-100-6 and the iTach IP2IR if I don't need RS232. I understand there is a converter to go to RS232 as well if I need to (is that correct)? And can't I just add a 3 way IR splitter if I need more IR wires?

Any considerations for playing nice with the Insteon setup? I will be using the ISY 994i. http://www.insteon.com/12237DB-ISY-994i.html

Thanks,

Grant

RS45, Denon 4311 should be able to control via IP, so no additional GC required.
PS3 need a blu-ray to IR converter, and then you will need a GC with IR. Wii I think you can't do anything except using the Wii controller.
Your emotiva unlikely need any IR control...
what DVR box you have? Some newer DirectTV or DishTV box have IP control, I believe.
post #8554 of 9744
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

RS45, Denon 4311 should be able to control via IP, so no additional GC required.
PS3 need a blu-ray to IR converter, and then you will need a GC with IR. Wii I think you can't do anything except using the Wii controller.
Your emotiva unlikely need any IR control...
what DVR box you have? Some newer DirectTV or DishTV box have IP control, I believe.

So how is the IP connection made? Do I run a Cat6 cable from the back of my WiFi router to the RS45 and the 4311? And that's it?

I have my PS3 on the main floor where I have a Harmony 900 in use. I do have the Harmony IR to bluetooth adaptor but I think it is on the fritz. So what kind/brand of adaptor do I need for the PS3? Will it still be IR to bluetooth?

And for the Wii I will use the Wii remote.

I guess the only thing I need for the Emotiva is just to turn it on and off. Can I link up the Emotiva with my 4311 so my Emotiva is turned on and off that way?

The DVR box is up in the air right now. I had Comcast until last month when I switched to Uverse. I have had more problems than I can count. So I may be switching again. I don't know to what. Maybe back to Comcast. But, I am curious about the satellite providers. Google Fiber was announced not long ago for my area of Kansas City so I am hoping maybe sometime next year I will get to try it out. But anyway you are saying that my DVR box might have IP control and this would be the preferred method? If not then IR?
post #8555 of 9744
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

I am considering irule for my soon to be completed dedicated room with all equipment outside of the room. I have an Insteon setup I will be using for lighting control.

I am unsure about what type of Global Cache I will need. My equipment is as follows.

-JVC RS45 - IP through cat5/6 and existing network
-Emotiva XPA-5 - will need to hook this up via 12v trigger from the Denon
-Denon 4311- IP through cat5/6 and existing network
-PS3/PS4 - IR adapter and you'll need a Global Cache
-360/One - - IR blaster and you'll need a Global Cache
-Wii/Wii U - Use existing remote
-DVR box - - IR blaster and you'll need a Global Cache
-QSC DSP30 - another need for a 12v trigger, might be able to split off the 12v trigger from the Denon
-Plan on adding a Synology box

Is there any advantage to controlling any of these devices with RS232? Or can I use IR for everything? I was looking at the GC-100-6 and the iTach IP2IR if I don't need RS232. I understand there is a converter to go to RS232 as well if I need to (is that correct)? And can't I just add a 3 way IR splitter if I need more IR wires?

Start looking on eBay for a GC-100-12. There are generally a few of them that are used but in working condition. That's where I got mine and it works great, plus I used the RS232 for the Pioneer AVR and am switching to 232 for my DVDO DUO, very soon! You can split IR cables but I am unsure how you would assign it in iRule.

Any considerations for playing nice with the Insteon setup? I will be using the ISY 994i. http://www.insteon.com/12237DB-ISY-994i.html

Thanks,

Grant
post #8556 of 9744
I just did a search and found the same vendor I used and he has 7 left at $50!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Global-Cache-GC-100-12-GC-100-Home-Network-Router-Security-lighting-Networking-/151076063368?pt=Home_Automation_Controls_Touchscreens&hash=item232cd5c888

Don't know him, just purchase a good unit from him at a heck of a deal (I think I paid $75 for mine)!
post #8557 of 9744
Does anyone have the IR hex codes for TiVo Series 3? I can't find them anywhere and am forced to use the IP controls that limits me to only one iRule device. Thanks
post #8558 of 9744
Is it possible for my HTPC to be accessed by a Kindle Fire HD via iRule?
post #8559 of 9744
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Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

Is it possible for my HTPC to be accessed by a Kindle Fire HD via iRule?
http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/474014
post #8560 of 9744
Thanks Bronco,

I ordered the GC 100-12. That is a great find considering the msrp is $299 and the cheapest new price is usually around $230. So for $50 I am going to roll the dice. GC seems to make a great product so I bet there is a long life expectancy with these units.
post #8561 of 9744
Ok guys, after getting Sonos and the new Nexus 7 tablet, I want to do more with the tablet and have been looking at iRule. I just don't know what I need.

Components in Great room that I want to control consist of:

Sony KDL60EX645 smart tv (wired w/ cat5e)
Yamaha RX-V2600 Receiver
PS3 (wired w/ cat 5e)

Cable modem, router, switch are located in the basement utility room up on a shelf.

Thanks!
post #8562 of 9744
Last night my iPAD I started malfunctioning using iRule HD. Whenever I touch an icon I get two commands with ever screen, every button. I also have iRule HD on my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and the 10" tablet. I set them up months ago and they still function flawlessly. In addition iRule is crashing every two or three command clicks on the iPad. Wasn't there a new iRule release for iOS? Any suggestions?

Thanks, Rich
post #8563 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Rich Gibson View Post

Last night my iPAD I started malfunctioning using iRule HD. Whenever I touch an icon I get two commands with ever screen, every button. I also have iRule HD on my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and the 10" tablet. I set them up months ago and they still function flawlessly. In addition iRule is crashing every two or three command clicks on the iPad. Wasn't there a new iRule release for iOS? Any suggestions?
That's unfortunate. Yes, there was just a new release. Did you just update to it?

For starters, try rebooting your iPad.

If rebooting doesn't fix the bad behavior, then try deleting iRule HD and install the main iRule app. The two should be the same, but maybe there is a difference. The iRule HD (just for iPad) app is going away at some point; the main iRule app is already universal, so in short, nobody needs the dedicated iRule HD app anymore. Anyway, make sure your gateways are backed up before you delete iRule HD. Once you install iRule, you can enter your user/pass, sync the handset, then Restore Gateways, and you should be back up and running. Post whether you're back up and running or not.

Cheers,
SC
post #8564 of 9744
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Originally Posted by DIYHomeTheater View Post

Does anyone have the IR hex codes for TiVo Series 3? I can't find them anywhere and am forced to use the IP controls that limits me to only one iRule device. Thanks
Have you tried the IR device already in the Builder called "TiVo Cable Premier All Models"?

SC
post #8565 of 9744
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

I ordered the GC 100-12. That is a great find considering the msrp is $299 and the cheapest new price is usually around $230. So for $50 I am going to roll the dice. GC seems to make a great product so I bet there is a long life expectancy with these units.

They are a pretty good deal... Just remember you'll have to add IR emitters (which are normally included). Not that it's a big deal - just sayin'. The GC-100 has also been around for a very long time, so these GC-100's could have been powered on 24/7 for something like 5 or 6 years or more. They're pretty bulletproof, so probably not an issue, but just pointing that out. Also, since these could be quite old, they could have older firmware and be a bit more difficult to set up.

Please note I'm not trying to dissuade anybody; I bought a surplus GC-100 when I bought mine, too. I just want everybody to consider all the issues and make an informed decision if they decide to purchase an older or surplus model.

Also, the GC-100 (regardless of new or used) only supports one iRule client at a time. It doesn't affect most people doing dedicated theaters, and it's been mentioned in this thread many times, but since the thread is huge, I thought I'd mention it again.

Cheers,
SC
post #8566 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

...Also, the GC-100 (regardless of new or used) only supports one iRule client at a time. It doesn't affect most people doing dedicated theaters, and it's been mentioned in this thread many times, but since the thread is huge, I thought I'd mention it again.

Doesn't the latest version of iRule help multiple clients share a port on the GC-100? i.e. the new ability to restore a closed TCP connection on a button press. Seems like the GC-100 allows another client to steal a connection that's been idle for 10 seconds or more, and now iRule plays along with that by restoring connections automatically.

I haven't had the time to try that myself yet, but it sounds like it should help quite a lot. It would be even better if the GC-100 allowed the idle timeout to be reduced to a second or two, but I don't think it does.
post #8567 of 9744
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Doesn't the latest version of iRule help multiple clients share a port on the GC-100? i.e. the new ability to restore a closed TCP connection on a button press. Seems like the GC-100 allows another client to steal a connection that's been idle for 10 seconds or more, and now iRule plays along with that by restoring connections automatically.

I haven't had the time to try that myself yet, but it sounds like it should help quite a lot. It would be even better if the GC-100 allowed the idle timeout to be reduced to a second or two, but I don't think it does.

Yes, it's better now, so for some people/applications it might be OK. You shouldn't have to put the second device to sleep and wake it up (or leave the remote, and return) to reestablish a gateway connection. But, even with the new functionality, if one person is in the living room trying to turn the lights off to go to bed, and another is in the theater trying to turn the lights on and turn the volume down, somebody is going to be annoyed that control isn't working. An iTach eliminates that (albeit at some expense, possibly significant depending on GC-100 cost).

Sometimes a combo approach is best. Start with cheap GC-100, then add an iTach to a specific device that might require multiple connections (a multizone receiver, or a lighting controller for instance).

I've had my GC-100 for years, and it works fine, but there are times I wish I had a few iTach's, too. The iTach is just a newer, friendlier, more modern device. I just wish it weren't so expensive if you need 3 or 4 of them.

Cheers,
SC
post #8568 of 9744
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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

In order for anything to be IP or RS232 controllable, protocol must be made available. As far as I now, Microsoft has not done so.





Alex
You're giving up too easily. Panasonic didn't give us a protocol, but we figured it out anyway.
post #8569 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

Ok guys, after getting Sonos and the new Nexus 7 tablet, I want to do more with the tablet and have been looking at iRule. I just don't know what I need.

Components in Great room that I want to control consist of:

Sony KDL60EX645 smart tv (wired w/ cat5e)
Yamaha RX-V2600 Receiver
PS3 (wired w/ cat 5e)

Cable modem, router, switch are located in the basement utility room up on a shelf.

Thanks!

Anyone, please?
post #8570 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

Anyone, please?

To my knowledge. If you go to iRule's website they should have a list of devices that have the codes already. http://www.iruleathome.com/devices/irule-compatible-devices
So I found that it does support the Yamaha and the Sony, not 100% on the PS3

You may also need to get a Global Cache Gateway i'm not sure for other things depending on what you want to do.

You can also post on iRule's support page as well for compatibility, pretty fast responses.
post #8571 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

Have you tried the IR device already in the Builder called "TiVo Cable Premier All Models"?

SC
It worked! Thanks. I was using Tivo Series 3 that has only IP codes
post #8572 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

Ok guys, after getting Sonos and the new Nexus 7 tablet, I want to do more with the tablet and have been looking at iRule. I just don't know what I need.

Components in Great room that I want to control consist of:

Sony KDL60EX645 smart tv (wired w/ cat5e)
Yamaha RX-V2600 Receiver
PS3 (wired w/ cat 5e)

Cable modem, router, switch are located in the basement utility room up on a shelf.

Thanks!

You would need a global cache IP2IR if you have an ethernet connection available in the great room, or a WIFI2IR if only wifi is available. If the Sony TV and Yamaha receivers are IP controllable then you need no extra equipment to control them. The iRule builder shows IP control devices are available just not sure if your specific equipment can be controlled that way. If not they surely can be controlled by IR and the ITACH device mentioned is what is needed. For PS3 control via iRule you'll definitely need the ITACH and also an IR to Bluetooth adapter. There are several on the market, make sure to get one that supports both power on and power off. I use the RE-BL version, there are others from Logitech and Schmartz and those devices are in the iRule builder.

From there you need to purchase the iRule builder license and install the app on your tablet. You could start with the basic license, especially if you find that your receiver and tv do not support IP control as feedback would not be possible making the pro version useless.

Hope that helps.
post #8573 of 9744
Hey iRule guys. I need to remotely control a subwoofer amp that I want to put in another room. I need to control the power on/off. I looked at some IR switches and they are either really cheap or really expensive. I figure someone using iRule has run into this suituation.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=IR-Infrared-Remote-Control-Power-Outlet-Switch-Plug-
http://www.smarthome.com/81302/Xantech-Controlled-AC-Outlet-w-IR-Control-AC2/p.aspx

Does anyone have a recommendation that would work with a QSC 3102 that is a commercial grade amplifier? It puts out 1,000 watts per channel.

Thanks
post #8574 of 9744
Ecrabb, thanks for the heads up.

Is there a way to update the firmware?

What is the best source for the IR emitters that work with the GC 100?

I did not know about the one client at a time restriction but as you said it does not affect me with a dedicated theater.
post #8575 of 9744
If you plan on doing lighting control eventually, you might want to look at the Insteon products. That's my plan for my speakers. I will be using active studio monitors that each need their own power source. I'll have them plugged into Insteon outlets and Insteon modules in my lights. Add a Smartlinc to interface between your network and your electrical system and you can control any Insteon device anywhere in your home.
post #8576 of 9744
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

Is there a way to update the firmware?
Yes. Send it back to Global Caché to be updated. wink.gif Seriously.

No worries, though. You won't likely run into any major functional differences, other than how the box gets set up, and if I recall, there's a slight difference in RS-232 that you'd run into only with a couple of very specific devices. Sorry, I don't recall the specifics.
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

What is the best source for the IR emitters that work with the GC 100?
The GC-100 is good with about any standard mono-jack IR emitter. Just try to find the non-illuminated variety...

https://globalcache.zendesk.com/entries/20697276-IR-emitter-compatibility

Cheers,
SC
post #8577 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

That's unfortunate. Yes, there was just a new release. Did you just update to it?

For starters, try rebooting your iPad.

If rebooting doesn't fix the bad behavior, then try deleting iRule HD and install the main iRule app. The two should be the same, but maybe there is a difference. The iRule HD (just for iPad) app is going away at some point; the main iRule app is already universal, so in short, nobody needs the dedicated iRule HD app anymore. Anyway, make sure your gateways are backed up before you delete iRule HD. Once you install iRule, you can enter your user/pass, sync the handset, then Restore Gateways, and you should be back up and running. Post whether you're back up and running or not.

Cheers,
SC

Thanks for taking the time. Unfortunately I've had it with the iPAD and Apple's golden handcuffs. I sold it. The matter is moot.

Again, Thanks, Rich
post #8578 of 9744
For the Denon 4311CI AVR, what are guys in here using for the Dynamic Volue for Day, Evening, Midnight?
I havent been able to find any device codes going through multiple device libraries for this AVR. Or are you guys using a combination of multiple codes to set it up?
post #8579 of 9744
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

For the Denon 4311CI AVR, what are guys in here using for the Dynamic Volue for Day, Evening, Midnight?
I havent been able to find any device codes going through multiple device libraries for this AVR. Or are you guys using a combination of multiple codes to set it up?

Are you using IP/rs232 or IR to controll the AVR? I use rs232 and added the codes myself. The complete controll protocol is available online. Just do a google search for it.
post #8580 of 9744
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Originally Posted by raymagnu View Post

Are you using IP/rs232 or IR to controll the AVR? I use rs232 and added the codes myself. The complete controll protocol is available online. Just do a google search for it.

Thanks for your reply.. I am using IP/rs232, using IP2SL to connect to the 4311CI.
I tried searching this forum but could not find anything, google search throws everything that i dont want, but not this. biggrin.gif Can you help.. where did you pick up the codes from? I have picked up all these buttons from the user library and tried to organize it in a better way to my own irule setup.. but the buttons are all the same, and have not been able to find codes for atleast 40% of the controls.

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