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post #8761 of 9759
Ok, I have a pickle I need help with. I just bought a new Sony XBR-65X900A television. It has Ethernet connectivity, and with it being such a high end set, I'm sure it is IP controllable. I do have 2 other options - a 3.5mm RS232 jack and a 3.5mm IR jack.

I would prefer the IP controlled route, but other than the commands, I can't find any other information on how to implement this into iRule (ports, method...). I already have Ethernet ran to where the TV is so no additional wire work needs to be done.

The second most desirable method would be RS232, but I will need to buy another IP2Serial unit and make a cable (which would require knowledge of the RS232 jack's pinout on the TV) as well as run another line from my AV room to my TV.

The least desired method would be the IR. Again, I would need the IR pinout on the TV (is it just signal and ground; does it need a +5 added to it; is it a 2 pole or 3 pole male plug) as well as run the line from my AV room to my TV. The reason this is the least desirable is if the TV provides feedback via IP or RS232, I will not be able to use this information via an IR control. Again, I'm not even sure the TV provides any type of feedback. If it doesn't, then IR is a very viable solution.

Any and all help is welcome with this. If you have had experience with controlling any Sony TV, it is likely it will help me in my endeavor as well.

Many thanks in advance!
post #8762 of 9759
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Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

There is always a way to do what you want, you just have to figure out how much you are willing to go through to get there.

It appears the Insteon Fanlinc will control 3 of them. So will the Lutron Electronics MIR-FQ4FMT-WH. But the other 3 (forgot, I actually have 6) have the controller built into the fan, and these are the nicer units mounted on the high ceilings.

At close to a hundred a piece for the above, an Arduino or Raspberry Pi solution seems much more affordable using the existing RF transmitters, plus I would much prefer to do this over IP than some proprietary wireless hack. I have already written an http server which acts as a bridge to Indigo, it would be trivial to expand it to sending IP commands to a raspberry pi or arduino. Most of the work would be wiring up a bunch of outputs to the existing remotes, and hoping there's a central location that is within range of all of the fans.

Oddly enough, I actually had an ir to rf gateway. A radio shack ir extender, alas it wasn't on the same frequency as any of the fan remotes.

Wish me luck.
post #8763 of 9759
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Originally Posted by s.bradford View Post

Hey Holy, Assuming you meant to reply to my post about wide-area networks, static IP and port forwarding are not a problem. It is about the lighting and the security system that I'm concerned with. Just not sure where to set up the external IP address in iRule.

Do I create another Gateway? Can I do that and still assign an existing device which is already assigned to a gateway?

Once you setup port forwarding, in the iRule app, you simply replace the IPv4 address that is your internal IP address for that gateway, with your WAN address or domain name if you have that setup. That's what I do for my ISY and Security System.



Alex
post #8764 of 9759
I'm having an issue with the MCE Eventghost controller. It seems that the Eventghost broadcaster stops receiving commands after a random period of time and I have to close and restart Eventghost. Once restarted it works just fine. Anyone else have this issue? The only thing I can think of is on the iRule download page there were two files, the MCE xml template and the broadcaster plugin. I used the MCE xml file (which I later remapped), but didn't copy the broadcaster plugin because there was already one installed.
post #8765 of 9759
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Originally Posted by maidez View Post

I'm trying to launch an IOS app using some of the advice in this thread (such as post #5610). What I'm trying to accomplish is creating a single button that will setup the system, and then launch Airplay enabled apps like Pandora. I've followed the approach of creating a page with a URL item, which contains an address like:

pandora://http://

I link to this page with a button that also executes a series of commands to set up the receiver. While this seems to have worked for others, it doesn't work for me. The link button does navigate to the page with the URL item, but the app never opens. If I use an external URL, like http://www.google.com, then content does automatically load. If I use the Launch App action attached to a button on this page, with the exact same address (cut and pasted from the URL item), it works, but this requires a 2nd button press, and doesn't really integrate with the source selection I've set up very seamlessly. I'm not sure if the auto-loading of an app launching URL has been disabled since the posts I've read were originally written, or if I'm missing something simple. Any advice appreciated.
post 5610 is mine, so maybe I can help.

First, may I first ask what device you are using to run iRule?
post #8766 of 9759
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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Once you setup port forwarding, in the iRule app, you simply replace the IPv4 address that is your internal IP address for that gateway, with your WAN address or domain name if you have that setup. That's what I do for my ISY and Security System.

Thanks Alex.

But I am looking for a way to do both as my router only port forwards certain times/days. Currently I am doing this in Tasker. BTW, it would be very nice if iRule could call Tasker tasks (and vice versa), as well as reference Tasker variables. It is one of the things that makes Android stand out.
post #8767 of 9759
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I'm having an issue with the MCE Eventghost controller. It seems that the Eventghost broadcaster stops receiving commands after a random period of time and I have to close and restart Eventghost. Once restarted it works just fine. Anyone else have this issue? The only thing I can think of is on the iRule download page there were two files, the MCE xml template and the broadcaster plugin. I used the MCE xml file (which I later remapped), but didn't copy the broadcaster plugin because there was already one installed.

Brian, i am a little confused with this. I can help with EventGhost, but not MCE Controller (never liked it, dont use it). I find EventGhost more functional over MCE controller. But you mentioned MCE EventGhost Controller.. i think you are mixing up.. both are different.. MCE Controller and EventGhost.
post #8768 of 9759
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Brian, i am a little confused with this. I can help with EventGhost, but not MCE Controller (never liked it, dont use it). I find EventGhost more functional over MCE controller. But you mentioned MCE EventGhost Controller.. i think you are mixing up.. both are different.. MCE Controller and EventGhost.

The MCE template for Eventghost. Just by controller I mean the xml file and the device in iRule that sends the broadcaster IP commands. I'm not use the MCE Controller program, even though that might solve my issue.

The Eventghost app works just fine, but then at some point there is no response from Eventghost to commands. I can look on the left side of the Eventghost screen and nothing is displayed when I press a button, after restarting Eventghost and hitting a button then the left side displays commands as expected.
post #8769 of 9759
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

The MCE template for Eventghost. Just by controller I mean the xml file and the device in iRule that sends the broadcaster IP commands. I'm not use the MCE Controller program, even though that might solve my issue.

The Eventghost app works just fine, but then at some point there is no response from Eventghost to commands. I can look on the left side of the Eventghost screen and nothing is displayed when I press a button, after restarting Eventghost and hitting a button then the left side displays commands as expected.

Ok, i checked with eventghost forum, and there had been some references to similar situation as yours.
EventGhost works on VC++, downloading and re-installing the new version should resolve this issue.
post #8770 of 9759
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Ok, i checked with eventghost forum, and there had been some references to similar situation as yours.
EventGhost works on VC++, downloading and re-installing the new version should resolve this issue.

This is for a co-worker's HTPC I'm building. I had him order an IR MCE receiver. I'll try to RDP in and re-installing. Are you saying to re-install VC++ or Eventghost?
post #8771 of 9759
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

This is for a co-worker's HTPC I'm building. I had him order an IR MCE receiver. I'll try to RDP in and re-installing. Are you saying to re-install VC++ or Eventghost?

This.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30679

Pls do check your version for x86 or 64bit.
post #8772 of 9759
I'll update it tomorrow and see if that helps. I'm just going to move his MCE control to IR using his iTach Flex. I'll keep Eventghost IP for special situations. One problem with using Eventghost with MCE is that the SMS text entry doesn't work like it does with a remote. If you try entering in the letter C by using the number pad by hitting "2" three times, you'll enter in AAA (or 222, can't remember). With MCE IR it correctly toggles A, B, then C.
post #8773 of 9759
Have a quick question about the new updates for irule on iOS today..
"Second Multi-State Deselect Group", does it mean choosing a source will automatically display that the source has been selected by highlighting it? or we gotta add another image for that source that shows selected/highlighted state? And it then shows in that state in multiple locations at the same time even if we dont choose highlighted images on other locations?

"Removed light display from vera scene module to mirror Vera functionality"
Is there a way to bring that small led display back? All the texts on the buttons i had created are misaligned now...
Previously it used to look like that..



Now after the update the small light is gone.. which i tought looked good.. and the text is pushed to one corner (well i did choose align to left when i designed), but that was to accomodate the led.



Infact the bulb image on the vera dimmer shud and the lock icon should be taken off.. if someone wants to use a custom image for the lock or the dimmer.. the icons come right on top of the images.
Edited by holyindian - 9/12/13 at 10:02am
post #8774 of 9759

Can iRule communicate with other running apps on Android?

 

I have an activity set up for Netflix with my Chromecast, which basically activates the correct HDMI port on my pre/pro and then launches the Netflix app. After starting playback in Netflix I then have to go back to iRule in order to control the volume - but then I have no playback controls so I have to keep switching back and forth between the two apps.

 

It would be really cool if iRule could send playback (pause, ffwd, etc) commands to the Netflix app...

post #8775 of 9759
I had the same problem as you for Netflix. We do spend a considerable amount of time watching movies on Netflix, and i did not like the WMC's netflix app, felt like the sound and the image quality could be better as i could compare it with xbox's netflix option.
But xbox keeps changing its layout very often, hence its hard to set macro's to navigate to netflix through xbox UI using iRule.
For this i brought an AppleTV console.. now i can do everything in one irule page, including gestures, easy access to netflix app with macro's including launching netflix app in appletv with one button.. etc. sound and clarity for netflix is day and night difference from WMC's netflix app.
post #8776 of 9759
Well I don't do Apple so that's out. wink.gif
I have Netflix on the PS3 and the HTPC but using the Chromecast is infinitely better because the Chromecast streams while the Android app - which I like a lot - controls it.
So if iRule somehow could send playback controls to the Android Netflix app I'd be in heaven.
post #8777 of 9759
Quote:
Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Have a quick question about the new updates for irule on iOS today..
"Second Multi-State Deselect Group", does it mean choosing a source will automatically display that the source has been selected by highlighting it? or we gotta add another image for that source that shows selected/highlighted state? And it then shows in that state in multiple locations at the same time even if we dont choose highlighted images on other locations?

"Removed light display from vera scene module to mirror Vera functionality"
Is there a way to bring that small led display back? All the texts on the buttons i had created are misaligned now...
Previously it used to look like that..



Now after the update the small light is gone.. which i tought looked good.. and the text is pushed to one corner (well i did choose align to left when i designed), but that was to accomodate the led.



Infact the bulb image on the vera dimmer shud and the lock icon should be taken off.. if someone wants to use a custom image for the lock or the dimmer.. the icons come right on top of the images.

HolyIndian,
I must say for a design that seems newly designed, it's beautiful. Not only that, it doesn't seem you've left any functionally unturned. From A/V to lights to HVAC to what looks like the garage door. Well done.
post #8778 of 9759
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Originally Posted by LaoChe View Post

That looks awesome! Very clean looking!

I've searched iRule Builder for this panel; it's no longer there.
If anybody has a copy, please share.





I've searched iRule Builder for this panel; it's no longer there.
If anybody has a copy, please share.
post #8779 of 9759
Quote:
Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Have a quick question about the new updates for irule on iOS today..
"Second Multi-State Deselect Group", does it mean choosing a source will automatically display that the source has been selected by highlighting it? or we gotta add another image for that source that shows selected/highlighted state? And it then shows in that state in multiple locations at the same time even if we dont choose highlighted images on other locations?

"Removed light display from vera scene module to mirror Vera functionality"
Is there a way to bring that small led display back? All the texts on the buttons i had created are misaligned now...
Previously it used to look like that..



Now after the update the small light is gone.. which i tought looked good.. and the text is pushed to one corner (well i did choose align to left when i designed), but that was to accomodate the led.



Infact the bulb image on the vera dimmer shud and the lock icon should be taken off.. if someone wants to use a custom image for the lock or the dimmer.. the icons come right on top of the images.

I had a conversation about this a few weeks ago when I was setting up my Vera. We were talking about scenes and through my setup the lights weren't actually working properly for scenes so it was removed. I didn't understand at first but he explained it to me. If u change the state of a scene on the Vera the light would still stay on which it shouldn't so it wasn't displaying the scene correct. The Vera is unable to do scenes properly for feedback. It's not irule just to let you know so they removed it.

Ya I liked it too but I guess it's gone now. I didn't update yet. I guess I'll have to changexsomecstuff too now.

Jimi
post #8780 of 9759
Ok I am a bit confused here

I hooked up my Denon Receiver, and Motorola FIos DVR Box. Everything seems to work fine for "Watch TV"

I also setup "Watch Movie" and the Denon switches to DVD but the Pansonic BDT-310 does nothing. Under the "Watch Movie" it shows the Panasonic Blu Ray All Models as a "Controlled Device". When I check the various button, they all show the Panasonic Blu Ray All Models and the related command.

I don't get what I did wrong??? I'm on the trial version
post #8781 of 9759
If you're controlling the Panny via IP, then I think you have to set something up on it, like quick start and a few other things. Set up the Panny as if you were going to control it from a smartphone app. I'd give more details, but I haven't owned a Panny in a while.
post #8782 of 9759
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Originally Posted by ekkoville View Post

HolyIndian,
I must say for a design that seems newly designed, it's beautiful. Not only that, it doesn't seem you've left any functionally unturned. From A/V to lights to HVAC to what looks like the garage door. Well done.

Thanks for your encouraging words ekkoville, while building the panel i always felt i am doing one of the most dumbest panel. I am not even doing my own graphics, just picking up graphics from the library and placing them in the irule grid. People here on the forum do the graphics from the scratch. I wished i was as talented.. applause to all the artists.
But yea i have done quite a bit of home automation at home, technology is my forte.. I used zwave Remotec ZFM-80 switch to open/close the garage door using the phone, just recently i have attached a NFC tag on the garage door to open the garage door. Its easier to bring the phone close to the garage door to open, and another nfc tag on the garage door frame nearby to close. Works like a charm... better than opening an app and locking/unlocking.
Theres atleast a dozen of HSM-100 3-in-1 sensor around the house controlling various lights, and other scenes.. have included a method called wasp in the box linking it with AVR thus making the sensors more smarter to detect and when not to detect. Have used Google Latitude for geo-fencing which tells the thermostat when to turn on and off depending on how far we are from the home, nfc tags, speech recognition based home automation etc.

I am a big fan of iRule, but i dont like the home automation module integration, as the automation panels itself take so much time to load in order to work. No option to control the security camera's.. the locks keeps polling forever.

Fun part is, the wife gets upset with all the things i do with the iRule, tells me every few days she gets confused with various panels/pages and designs, i keep changing/adding making it better... the iRule integration just gets better and better.. its like a whole new hobby for me now. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by jimim View Post

I had a conversation about this a few weeks ago when I was setting up my Vera. We were talking about scenes and through my setup the lights weren't actually working properly for scenes so it was removed. I didn't understand at first but he explained it to me. If u change the state of a scene on the Vera the light would still stay on which it shouldn't so it wasn't displaying the scene correct. The Vera is unable to do scenes properly for feedback. It's not irule just to let you know so they removed it.

Jimi

I think the option to remove those led lights from the scene button should have been optional in the settings section. if someone wants to keep it they can using a drop down yes or no option.
I never had a problem with feedback, for me the leds lit up accurately. Using the Leviton switches gives accurate feedback.

I still think there should be an option to keep or remove the default icons that come with the scenes and other vera modules.
post #8783 of 9759
What interface do you use for your z-wave lighting? The Vera? I'm using Homeseer with a USB z-wave stick sending IP triggers from iRule. For my standard IR remote I send some dummy IR commands (probably some old VCR codes) into my USB-UIRT as Homeseer triggers for my z-wave events. I'd like a standalone IR and IP to z-wave box.
post #8784 of 9759
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If you're controlling the Panny via IP, then I think you have to set something up on it, like quick start and a few other things. Set up the Panny as if you were going to control it from a smartphone app. I'd give more details, but I haven't owned a Panny in a while.

I tried the Panny under the IR control first and no response. I tried under the IP model and no response either. (Any button)
I searched through the menu and I don't see anywhere on the BR player to adjust controls but maybe I'm not seeing it
post #8785 of 9759
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

Thanks for your encouraging words ekkoville, while building the panel i always felt i am doing one of the most dumbest panel. I am not even doing my own graphics, just picking up graphics from the library and placing them in the irule grid. People here on the forum do the graphics from the scratch. I wished i was as talented.. applause to all the artists.
But yea i have done quite a bit of home automation at home, technology is my forte.. I used zwave Remotec ZFM-80 switch to open/close the garage door using the phone, just recently i have attached a NFC tag on the garage door to open the garage door. Its easier to bring the phone close to the garage door to open, and another nfc tag on the garage door frame nearby to close. Works like a charm... better than opening an app and locking/unlocking.
Theres atleast a dozen of HSM-100 3-in-1 sensor around the house controlling various lights, and other scenes.. have included a method called wasp in the box linking it with AVR thus making the sensors more smarter to detect and when not to detect. Have used Google Latitude for geo-fencing which tells the thermostat when to turn on and off depending on how far we are from the home, nfc tags, speech recognition based home automation etc.

I am a big fan of iRule, but i dont like the home automation module integration, as the automation panels itself take so much time to load in order to work. No option to control the security camera's.. the locks keeps polling forever.

Fun part is, the wife gets upset with all the things i do with the iRule, tells me every few days she gets confused with various panels/pages and designs, i keep changing/adding making it better... the iRule integration just gets better and better.. its like a whole new hobby for me now. smile.gif
I think the option to remove those led lights from the scene button should have been optional in the settings section. if someone wants to keep it they can using a drop down yes or no option.
I never had a problem with feedback, for me the leds lit up accurately. Using the Leviton switches gives accurate feedback.

I still think there should be an option to keep or remove the default icons that come with the scenes and other vera modules.

I use only leviton also. I thought they were working proper too but they aren't. Example. Fire up a scene. Light goes on. Good. Now change one of those lights in that scene. The light should go out now on that scene cause the state changed. It doesn't but in say a radio ra setup it would. As soon as u change the setting if the scene that light should go off cause the state of that scene changed but it doesn't not because the leviton isn't sending back proper feedback but because the vera can't handle it. It has nothing to do with the leviton or irule it's the vera that doesn't handle scenes properly. It's deff a good solution but not the best. I really like my vera. I'm using until I get my hai up and going someday.

I really like how the vera handles my irrigation via the etherrain and it works nicely in irule too. The only thing not in my vera yet but that is in my irule setup is my security cameras but I use the everfocus app on my phone for that when I'm not home.

Jim
post #8786 of 9759
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Ok I am a bit confused here

I hooked up my Denon Receiver, and Motorola FIos DVR Box. Everything seems to work fine for "Watch TV"

I also setup "Watch Movie" and the Denon switches to DVD but the Pansonic BDT-310 does nothing. Under the "Watch Movie" it shows the Panasonic Blu Ray All Models as a "Controlled Device". When I check the various button, they all show the Panasonic Blu Ray All Models and the related command.

I don't get what I did wrong??? I'm on the trial version

You have IR codes for Panasonic BD player. Any time you see codes in the Database, Global Cache or Pronto Hex codes sections, that is 100% IR codes. IP and Rs232 codes go into NETWORK CODES section. For IP control of Panasonic BD player, you need to search for Type=Bluray+Vendor=Panasonic+Codes Type=IP. For Panasonic BD player over IP, you have to click on YES when you are presented with the Unassigned Devices message after you sync and then touch the Panasonic IP Control device and follow the steps. Then just input your IP address. You also need to enable control in the Panasonic itself.



Alex
post #8787 of 9759
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Originally Posted by nosdude View Post

I've searched iRule Builder for this panel; it's no longer there.
If anybody has a copy, please share.





I've searched iRule Builder for this panel; it's no longer there.
If anybody has a copy, please share.
It's still there. Search the User Panel for "plainsimple". The complete title is: "Onkyo TX-SR875 from Plainsimple.dk"
post #8788 of 9759
There is not a lot of stuff in the library for the onkyo panel above.. Just a few buttons and the screenshot. But it's a great design nevertheless, I hope the author shares other panels as well.
post #8789 of 9759
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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

You have IR codes for Panasonic BD player. Any time you see codes in the Database, Global Cache or Pronto Hex codes sections, that is 100% IR codes. IP and Rs232 codes go into NETWORK CODES section. For IP control of Panasonic BD player, you need to search for Type=Bluray+Vendor=Panasonic+Codes Type=IP. For Panasonic BD player over IP, you have to click on YES when you are presented with the Unassigned Devices message after you sync and then touch the Panasonic IP Control device and follow the steps. Then just input your IP address. You also need to enable control in the Panasonic itself.



Alex
Is my player an IP player? I'm guessing it is since I can't control it itch the IR version? I can't find an IP address in my player menu
post #8790 of 9759
Hey guys,

How do you macro radio channels on your receivers? unlike the cable channels, its easy to drag and drop series of numbers from the device.. but in the case of a radio channel say like 94.3 FM how do you set this up through your denon reciever in your irule?
I do see digits macro in the denon device panel.. but still i cannot get to put that dot.. am i doing something wrong?

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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

What interface do you use for your z-wave lighting? The Vera? I'm using Homeseer with a USB z-wave stick sending IP triggers from iRule. For my standard IR remote I send some dummy IR commands (probably some old VCR codes) into my USB-UIRT as Homeseer triggers for my z-wave events. I'd like a standalone IR and IP to z-wave box.

I am using Vera 3, this was my first home automation project at home, i am looking forward to be replacing this with a better interface in the future. I would love to do creston.. but having it done through an installer is going to cost arm and a leg, and they dont have a learning path for direct consumers. I will reserach at a later time to see whats doable at a later time.
Edited by holyindian - 9/16/13 at 8:19pm
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