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post #8911 of 9744
This is disheartening and hopefully something irule can address. I understand technology advances and irule is growing as well, however to go from working flawlessly to not in one update is not cool. I hoped to use my iPad one as a dedicated irule control for a long time to come as the hardware itself still works great.
post #8912 of 9744
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

This is disheartening and hopefully something irule can address. I understand technology advances and irule is growing as well, however to go from working flawlessly to not in one update is not cool. I hoped to use my iPad one as a dedicated irule control for a long time to come as the hardware itself still works great.

Yeah, my thought as well. Last night I had changed up my homepage a bit. I had just four sources and the weather widget, then I moved the source buttons/links and deleted the widget. Replaced the wx widget with a URL within an iPhone wx page from weather underground. Looked fine and I tested everything I had done, including adding a drawer with favorite channels. I get up this morning, and the app crashed at some point. That's how I find it a few times a week, it's good at bedtime but some time during the night it just crashes. Don't know why.
post #8913 of 9744
I use iRule on Ipad 1 and recently noticed it not acting right... Crashing, slow to connect to gateways and the weather widget would not work most of the time... I removed the weather from my panels and rebooted my routers, iTachs and anything else iRule used as a gateway... After this my iRule on iPad 1 started acting normal again... for now at least....
post #8914 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Doug Balentine View Post

I use iRule on Ipad 1 and recently noticed it not acting right... Crashing, slow to connect to gateways and the weather widget would not work most of the time... I removed the weather from my panels and rebooted my routers, iTachs and anything else iRule used as a gateway... After this my iRule on iPad 1 started acting normal again... for now at least....

Interesting, most of my crashes have been with some wx data being displayed. I'll have to keep an eye on the other pages to see if that might be it.
post #8915 of 9744

In my case I do not have the WX widget active.

post #8916 of 9744
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

In my case I do not have the WX widget active.
Got up today and it hadn't crashed. That's a positive but it's just intermittent so far which is more frustrating, I think. You think it's fine and then bam, it crashes. I changed the URL refresh time also, the default was -1.0 which I don't understand. I made every 10 minutes, let's see if that causes issues.
post #8917 of 9744
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Originally Posted by ekkoville View Post

Interesting, most of my crashes have been with some wx data being displayed. I'll have to keep an eye on the other pages to see if that might be it.

Also, I would think if you use a lot of variables the system performance will drop. My iPad 1 is running perfectly now and I don't use variables. I am currently looking at rebuilding my setup to use variables but may want to rethink if it makes iPad 1 unstable. Are any of you guys using variables that are having iPad 1 problems? Variables could eat up RAM which would create problems. I think Ipad 1 has only 256mb of ram and the newer ones have 512.
post #8918 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Doug Balentine View Post

[quote name="ekkoville" url="/t/1351981/irule/8910#post_23828232"]Interesting, most of my crashes have been with some wx data being displayed. I'll have to keep an eye on the other pages to see if that might be it.[/quote]Also, I would think if you use a lot of variables the system performance will drop. My iPad 1 is running perfectly now and I don't use variables. I am currently looking at rebuilding my setup to use variables but may want to rethink if it makes iPad 1 unstable. Are any of you guys using variables that are having iPad 1 problems? Variables could eat up RAM which would create problems. I think Ipad 1 has only 256mb of ram and the newer ones have 512.

I don't use variables as they have yet to get them working on Android, but the amount of RAM they would consume would be negligible in the grand scheme of things. If their use affects stability, the feature is poorly developed.
post #8919 of 9744
Is anyone using iRule via the BlueStacks emulator on a PC? I can't use smartphones or tablets due to a disability. I'm looking to replace a Redeye remote which is easily controlled through a web browser.
post #8920 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Doug Balentine View Post

Also, I would think if you use a lot of variables the system performance will drop. My iPad 1 is running perfectly now and I don't use variables. I am currently looking at rebuilding my setup to use variables but may want to rethink if it makes iPad 1 unstable. Are any of you guys using variables that are having iPad 1 problems? Variables could eat up RAM which would create problems. I think Ipad 1 has only 256mb of ram and the newer ones have 512.

I haven't started variables yet although I've been doing the tutorials from the manual. Last night it crashed twice, once in the homepage and once inside the DirecTV page. It's rare that it does that inside the DTV page. I just don't know why or what to do. Most of what Steve Crabb has mentioned, like gateways off of auto detect, I have already checked.
post #8921 of 9744
Is anybody here using iRule on a Nexus 7 (2013) and managed to arrive at working panel dimensions. I have tried experimenting to no end and it seems it is pretty severely borked (background and foreground images not lining up on the device as they do in iBuilder).

Seeing the same thing on my Nexus 4 as well (even when using the available template).
post #8922 of 9744
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Originally Posted by s.bradford View Post

Is anybody here using iRule on a Nexus 7 (2013) and managed to arrive at working panel dimensions. I have tried experimenting to no end and it seems it is pretty severely borked (background and foreground images not lining up on the device as they do in iBuilder).

Seeing the same thing on my Nexus 4 as well (even when using the available template).

I have. Create a custom Android handset and use 1200 x 1920 with a top margin of 130 and bottom margin of 0. I've mostly used x3 scale graphics with a grid of 25 x 50. I shared my panels as "Nexus 7 2013".
post #8923 of 9744
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

[quote name="s.bradford" url="/t/1351981/irule/8910#post_23836399"]Is anybody here using iRule on a Nexus 7 (2013) and managed to arrive at working panel dimensions. I have tried experimenting to no end and it seems it is pretty severely borked (background and foreground images not lining up on the device as they do in iBuilder).Seeing the same thing on my Nexus 4 as well (even when using the available template).[/quote]I have. Create a custom Android handset and use 1200 x 1920 with a top margin of 130 and bottom margin of 0. I've mostly used x3 scale graphics with a grid of 25 x 50. I shared my panels as "Nexus 7 2013".
Thanks... I'll check it out!
post #8924 of 9744
BTW... what is the size of your background graphic?
post #8925 of 9744
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Originally Posted by s.bradford View Post

BTW... what is the size of your background graphic?
I'm not sure. It is from the Black template images.
post #8926 of 9744
I just got started with irule and was wondering if anyone can tell me their experience with a Denon receiver and whether it works well with IP control vs serial. I have a AVR3313 which does have a serial port. The irule customer support was trying to talk me into that because he said there are fewer problems, but I couldn't pin him down to figure out exactly what he meant by that. He said I would probably have to reboot my receiver more frequently if I used IP control.
post #8927 of 9744
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Originally Posted by hoops2 View Post

I just got started with irule and was wondering if anyone can tell me their experience with a Denon receiver and whether it works well with IP control vs serial. I have a AVR3313 which does have a serial port. The irule customer support was trying to talk me into that because he said there are fewer problems, but I couldn't pin him down to figure out exactly what he meant by that. He said I would probably have to reboot my receiver more frequently if I used IP control.

I have a Denon x4000 and it works perfectly as far as I can tell using IP. No issues and have been able to control everything I need.
post #8928 of 9744
I can't say for Denon, but I have an Onkyo and when I started my iRule build, I used the IP control. It worked, but tended to get flaky after a few weeks causing me to have to reboot the AVR. I switched to serial control and haven't had to pull the plug since (except to move to a new home, moving electrical outlets, or other such activities indirectly related to the receiver).
post #8929 of 9744
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Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

I can't say for Denon, but I have an Onkyo and when I started my iRule build, I used the IP control. It worked, but tended to get flaky after a few weeks causing me to have to reboot the AVR. I switched to serial control and haven't had to pull the plug since (except to move to a new home, moving electrical outlets, or other such activities indirectly related to the receiver).

Thanks. That confirms what they told me. Do you notice any lag with the serial connection? I am afraid the wifi connection from my phone to the itach and then a serial communication would be somewhat slow. Is the response pretty good? I also assume you get a 2-way communication so you can see status for things like volume and input selection. Is that true?
post #8930 of 9744
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Originally Posted by disker72 View Post

I can't say for Denon, but I have an Onkyo and when I started my iRule build, I used the IP control. It worked, but tended to get flaky after a few weeks causing me to have to reboot the AVR. I switched to serial control and haven't had to pull the plug since (except to move to a new home, moving electrical outlets, or other such activities indirectly related to the receiver).

Likely Onkyo/Integra issue. Their network interfaces have been prone to issues.




Alex
post #8931 of 9744
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Originally Posted by hoops2 View Post

I just got started with irule and was wondering if anyone can tell me their experience with a Denon receiver and whether it works well with IP control vs serial. I have a AVR3313 which does have a serial port. The irule customer support was trying to talk me into that because he said there are fewer problems, but I couldn't pin him down to figure out exactly what he meant by that. He said I would probably have to reboot my receiver more frequently if I used IP control.

I have the Denon 3313 and I have had no issues with IP. I have been using IP exclusively for about 3 months.
post #8932 of 9744
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Originally Posted by hoops2 View Post

Thanks. That confirms what they told me. Do you notice any lag with the serial connection? I am afraid the wifi connection from my phone to the itach and then a serial communication would be somewhat slow. Is the response pretty good? I also assume you get a 2-way communication so you can see status for things like volume and input selection. Is that true?

Actually, it seems more responsive via rs-232 if there is any difference at all (IE perceived).
post #8933 of 9744

I used IP on my 4311 for a few weeks before switching to serial.  The IP worked just fine but I switched to serial because one I have a 16 port digiserver that has too many unused ports :) and also IP only supports one connection at a time and I have multiple "Remotes" connecting at once as my wife and I often both have our ipads running the same activity at once.  It does seem to me that serial feedback is snappier and I have not had one hiccup in almost a year with the serial.

post #8934 of 9744
Thanks for the replies. I'll start with IP since no extra hardware is required.

Just curious if everyone with irule is content with only smartphone/tablet control or do you also find yourself using remotes as well. I am building a cabinet without glass doors, so I can't operate with IR. I guess I'm trying to decide to go with just irule or also get a harmony remote which uses RF + ir blasters.
post #8935 of 9744
Can iRule turn on a shut down PC?
post #8936 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Can iRule turn on a shut down PC?

If you have the right hardware on the PC then it can. Unfortunately that hardware is of questionable quality. Look for Soundgraph / iMon / Antec remote solutions. They intercept the power button cables unlike regular USB IR receivers.
post #8937 of 9744
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Originally Posted by hoops2 View Post

Thanks for the replies. I'll start with IP since no extra hardware is required. Just curious if everyone with irule is content with only smartphone/tablet control or do you also find yourself using remotes as well. I am building a cabinet without glass doors, so I can't operate with IR. I guess I'm trying to decide to go with just irule or also get a harmony remote which uses RF + ir blasters.
I would say I am less than happy with either. The hub in the harmony only supports 8 devices, and that was a deal breaker for me. And the handset interface is very limiting, and the software, IMHO, has taken a step backward from the original Harmony Remote software.

The only place I desire physical buttons is when watching TiVo, and I now use the stock remote with iRule.

But if you're using Android, there is much in iRule that is horribly broken. From significant missing features, to something as fundamental as not being able to display graphics properly. There are also a number of bugs on iOS but I have spent comparatively little time with that platform.

I have been with iRule for a couple of months. It started out great with great support, but after I got deeper into it, I ran into problems they didn't have answers for, and then the silence ensued. I now have my doubts about their engineering resources and quality control.

I do still think iRule is the best low cost solution out there for the home user, but it is laughable they present this as a pro product. It simply isn't there yet.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
post #8938 of 9744
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Can iRule turn on a shut down PC?

 

I use iRule via EventGhost to launch a command line tool, called psshutdown on the PC, I want to shut down (or send to hibernate, or reboot, or...)

 

____

Axel 

post #8939 of 9744
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

I use iRule via EventGhost to launch a command line tool, called psshutdown on the PC, I want to shut down (or send to hibernate, or reboot, or...)

____
Axel 

But he wants to turn on a PC that is physically off.
post #8940 of 9744
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

I use iRule via EventGhost to launch a command line tool, called psshutdown on the PC, I want to shut down (or send to hibernate, or reboot, or...)

____
Axel 

But he wants to turn on a PC that is physically off.

 

Sorry, I have not had my morning coffee yet and misread....

 

To turn the PC on I use the WOL feature of my NIC. While the PC is not physically off, the system itself is shut down (with Windows Shut Down command) and only the NIC listens. Per my Kill-a-Watt the system then consumes around 2 watt.

 

Only limitation is that in case power was interrupted during this shutdown period, the NIC will afterwards not respond to a WOL command and the PC needs to be manually started with its power button. 

 

____

Axel

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