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post #9091 of 9744
I don't want to bag on Smarthome or Insteon. I love my dimmers and am asking for more for Xmas to add automation in other areas of my house. I got my smartlink just as the hub was being released and they were selling both at the same time. There were some complaints about the new Hub then being "beta" so I went with the cheaper and slightly less feature rich Smartlink.

Reviews of the Hub are still mediocre at best:

http://www.smarthome.com/asp/ReviewRead/ReviewRead.asp?itemnumber=2242-222
post #9092 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I definitely think I can make an Insteon setup work for me. I even have a solution to extend the serial controller outside my equipment room, so it can plug into my "normal" house electrical circuits, and bypass my balanced power sub-panel.

I am actually excited, as this is a lot cheaper than RadioRa2, and I can do a lot more automation than what I was planning.

For those using it, I would appreciate comments on how you have it integrated in iRule. I was thinking a mix of Insteon remotes and keypads along with iRule would be useful.

Thanks.

Mark

I use my Insteon setup with ISY99/994 and use ISY Module. I have 8 button, 6 button keypads, dimmers, switches, lamp modules, garage door kit.




Alex
post #9093 of 9744
Ok so I need someone to tell me what to do because I'm so lost in numbers and hardware i'm going nuts lol.

All I want to do is control my equipment:
Sony BDP S5100 BD player
Pioneer 1222k AVR
JVC RS46 Projector

AND my various Insteon outlets and plug in modules from my Kindle Fire.

What is the best and easiest setup for all of this?

From what I've gathered my options are:
ISY 994i and PLM
Insteon Hub and GC-100
GC-100 and PLM

Is that correct? If so which would be the easiest setup.


Thank you.
Do I even need a Global Cache if all 3 of my equipment irule already has codes for?
post #9094 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

Ok so I need someone to tell me what to do because I'm so lost in numbers and hardware i'm going nuts lol.

All I want to do is control my equipment:
Sony BDP S5100 BD player
Pioneer 1222k AVR
JVC RS46 Projector

AND my various Insteon outlets and plug in modules from my Kindle Fire.

What is the best and easiest setup for all of this?

From what I've gathered my options are:
ISY 994i and PLM
Insteon Hub and GC-100
GC-100 and PLM

Is that correct? If so which would be the easiest setup.


Thank you.
Do I even need a Global Cache if all 3 of my equipment irule already has codes for?

I vote for the ISY and PLM. I had the Smartlinc and it gave me nothing but trouble, and the reviews of the Insteon Hub do not inspire confidence. The ISY made configuring all my Insteon devices simple - no pressing/holding buttons on the devices needed, just tell the ISY the device addresses and how you want them to work and it programs them all for you.
post #9095 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

An irule employee said that out of my equipment my JVC RS46 projector is the only they don't have codes already built in and that I would need the Wf2ir global cache. How would this work, I don't think the projector sends a wireless signal? Would it be hardwired to the projector then? If that's the case the global cache would have to be up by the projector location. Which, will I need an additional global cache for the front of the room where the rest of my equipment is at? Will it interrupt or mess with the projector at all as far as picture quality goes?


Since Insteon is already built in the irule I wouldn't be controlling the Insteon devices through the Global Cache right, but through the Insteon PLM?

I see in a later post you ran CAT5 to your projector. Why not use IP control on the JVC? It seems to be supported, read below. iRule has a free trial, and all of your devices have IP control. Not sure why iRule would tell you to use IR. I have an RS40, codes are probably the same. Import the JVS-RSxxx IP/RS232 in the builder and try it out.

http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/550599-jvc-rsxx-projector-ip-control
https://getsatisfaction.com/irule/topics/cant_power_up_jvc_rs46_x35_projector_on_lan
post #9096 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

Ok so I need someone to tell me what to do because I'm so lost in numbers and hardware i'm going nuts lol.

All I want to do is control my equipment:
Sony BDP S5100 BD player
Pioneer 1222k AVR
JVC RS46 Projector

AND my various Insteon outlets and plug in modules from my Kindle Fire.

What is the best and easiest setup for all of this?

From what I've gathered my options are:
ISY 994i and PLM
Insteon Hub and GC-100
GC-100 and PLM

Is that correct? If so which would be the easiest setup.


Thank you.
Do I even need a Global Cache if all 3 of my equipment irule already has codes for?

Like I said before, if all of your devices work with IP control, the ISY + PLM is a no brainer over a GC-100 + PLM solely for Insteon control. I don't think you need a global cache with the Insteon hub, but I've never really looked at it.

Your best bet is to use iRule trial and see if your devices work via IP and go from there.

Codes in the builder are listed by IR/RS232/IP. You will need a gateway (global cache or otherwise) for stuff listed with IR or RS232. Anything listed with IP can be sent over your current network.
post #9097 of 9744
Does anyone know if there will be a way to control the PS4 via IP codes and therefore through iRule?
post #9098 of 9744
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Originally Posted by krakhen View Post

Does anyone know if there will be a way to control the PS4 via IP codes and therefore through iRule?

Not unless Sony publishes control protocol documentation.
post #9099 of 9744
Ok you guys sold me on the ISY994i. Do I get the 994i or the 994i/IR? Hopefully it's as easy as people say it is.

Also, will it work with AT&T U-verse?

I checked irule. My AVR and BD player have IP and it says for the projector:

JVC Projector RS and X series all models RS232/TCP. Then under the codes column it says IP/RS232

Does this mean my JVC RS46 has the IP control?
Edited by mijotter - 11/21/13 at 11:15pm
post #9100 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

Ok so I need someone to tell me what to do because I'm so lost in numbers and hardware i'm going nuts lol.

What is the best and easiest setup for all of this?

From what I've gathered my options are:
ISY 994i and PLM
Insteon Hub and GC-100
GC-100 and PLM

Is that correct? If so which would be the easiest setup.

Since we are discussing options for Insteon control with iRule, I was wondering if

HouseLinc software (PC required) + PLM

is also an option? I have a media PC running 24/7, so the software could potentially work for me. My custom-built PC even has 3 serial ports on it, so I can use the PLM with serial. The only thing I cannot get my head around is how do I control the HouseLinc software via the PC with iRule? Could I use my Digi PortServer to control the PC via serial, and then in turn, control HouseLinc?

Thanks.

Mark
Edited by giomania - 11/22/13 at 7:00am
post #9101 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Since we are discussing options for Insteon control with iRule, I was wondering if

HouseLinc + PLM

is also an option? I have a media PC running 24/7, so the software could work for me. My custom-built PC even has 3 serial ports on it, so I have the connection for the PLM with serial. The only thing I cannot get my head around is how do I control HouseLinc via the PC with iRule?

Thanks.

Mark

you can't control houselinc with irule. in fact, you can't control houselinc with anything other than mouse clicks. houselinc is a controllER, not a controlEE. instead, houselinc and irule would both be controling the insteon setup itself. if you wanted the plm to be hooked up to the serial port on a pc, and to control that with irule, the pc would need to be running something like tcp2serial. and in that case, i'm pretty sure once one of those programs (houselinc or tcp2serial) opens the serial port, the other won't have access to it.

but since you've got a portserver, i would just do it that way instead. the beauty of the portserver is that it not only supports multiple connections to the same serial port, but it supports them in different "formats" at the same time. so again, it's not that irule controls houselinc which controls the insteon setup; it's that irule and houselinc simultaneously control the insteon setup via the portserver. irule does it by sending commands to the portserver as a tcp server, and houselinc does it by sending commands to the portserver as a virtual serial port thanks to driver software running on the pc (digi's realport). this is exactly how my setup works... and it works great smile.gif
post #9102 of 9744
Anyone? Post # 9099
post #9103 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by absolootbs View Post

you can't control houselinc with irule. in fact, you can't control houselinc with anything other than mouse clicks. houselinc is a controllER, not a controlEE. instead, houselinc and irule would both be controling the insteon setup itself. if you wanted the plm to be hooked up to the serial port on a pc, and to control that with irule, the pc would need to be running something like tcp2serial. and in that case, i'm pretty sure once one of those programs (houselinc or tcp2serial) opens the serial port, the other won't have access to it.

but since you've got a portserver, i would just do it that way instead. the beauty of the portserver is that it not only supports multiple connections to the same serial port, but it supports them in different "formats" at the same time. so again, it's not that irule controls houselinc which controls the insteon setup; it's that irule and houselinc simultaneously control the insteon setup via the portserver. irule does it by sending commands to the portserver as a tcp server, and houselinc does it by sending commands to the portserver as a virtual serial port thanks to driver software running on the pc (digi's realport). this is exactly how my setup works... and it works great smile.gif

Thanks for the information. I understand what you are telling me, and I think that is a great solution, since I already have the hardware (PortServer and PC). Since the HouseLinc software is free, it will just cost me $80 for the PLM. I assume you use HouseLinc for initial setup / programming, and to run any scheduled timer events? Do you think there is anything lacking with this solution compared to the ISY994i & PLM route?

Mark
post #9104 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by mijotter View Post

Ok you guys sold me on the ISY994i. Do I get the 994i or the 994i/IR? Hopefully it's as easy as people say it is.

Also, will it work with AT&T U-verse?

I checked irule. My AVR and BD player have IP and it says for the projector:

JVC Projector RS and X series all models RS232/TCP. Then under the codes column it says IP/RS232

Does this mean my JVC RS46 has the IP control?

Go with 994i



Alex
post #9105 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I assume you use HouseLinc for initial setup / programming, and to run any scheduled timer events?

yep
Quote:
Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Do you think there is anything lacking with this solution compared to the ISY994i & PLM route?

oh you can absolutely take things a lot further with an isy. i have no personal experience with them, but from the research i've done its my understanding that not only can you build more complex logic just through drag and drop, but that you also have access to write from scratch in it's language, so if you're code-inclined you can do even more still than whats available with isy drag and drop. i've definitely come across a few situations where i wished i had access to a bit more logic than what houselinc offers, but so far its not been so many situations, nor have any of them been so important, that i thought it was worth the expense and hassle of converting my entire setup.

also, if i'm not mistaken, irule feedback with the isy is a bit of a nightmare. it has less of a learning curve than when using direct serial commands, being that its xml and reads more "englishish". But the raw insteon hex you get back from the direct serial commands is much easier for irule to deal with and once you learn to read it like keanu in the matrix, it's all the same to you.
post #9106 of 9744
I'm curious:

Where are you folks accessing the necessary data bases of remote codes for iRule systems?

To get any half-way sophisticated system you need access to hex codes etc. When you get a new piece of equipment - AV receiver, display, etc - where do you find all the codes?

Thanks.
post #9107 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

I'm curious:

Where are you folks accessing the necessary data bases of remote codes for iRule systems?

To get any half-way sophisticated system you need access to hex codes etc. When you get a new piece of equipment - AV receiver, display, etc - where do you find all the codes?

Thanks.


Quite often the codes are already in the Builder database. If not, I usually try to get the codes from the equipment manufacture or other online sources and add them manually.

____

Axel

post #9108 of 9744
Ok thanks Axel.
post #9109 of 9744
Hello all,

Can someone tell me how to get the correct info. on the weather and clock apps. The clock shows wrong time and date and the weather is also wrong.
post #9110 of 9744

Hi all, I've just purchased the pro license and am trying to set iRule up, but it's a real pain in the rear-end, even with the video tutorials.  I purchased the Sonos module and it won't activate, but that's not why I'm posting.  

 

Here's my question: what do I need to do to get iRule to control JRiver?  I currently use a Harmony 900 remote with learned commands from a Windows Media Center remote.  It sends these commends to a USB IR dongle connected to my HTPC. I do have my computer's IP address, but I don't know how to turn that into something iRule can use.  ANY help would be most appreciated!  Thanks! 

post #9111 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel View Post


Quite often the codes are already in the Builder database. If not, I usually try to get the codes from the equipment manufacture or other online sources and add them manually.
____
Axel

You can also learn the codes thru an iTach/existing remote if you are unable to get them other places.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ty wonon View Post

Hello all,

Can someone tell me how to get the correct info. on the weather and clock apps. The clock shows wrong time and date and the weather is also wrong.

This requires you to have location services enabled on your device. Look in your device's settings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Hi all, I've just purchased the pro license and am trying to set iRule up, but it's a real pain in the rear-end, even with the video tutorials.  I purchased the Sonos module and it won't activate, but that's not why I'm posting.  

Here's my question: what do I need to do to get iRule to control JRiver?  I currently use a Harmony 900 remote with learned commands from a Windows Media Center remote.  It sends these commends to a USB IR dongle connected to my HTPC. I do have my computer's IP address, but I don't know how to turn that into something iRule can use.  ANY help would be most appreciated!  Thanks! 

Jriver can be controlled thru IP commands. There is a Device in the builder with the codes built in. Make sure your firewall on the pc allows the commands thru.
Edited by impmonkey - 11/26/13 at 6:44pm
post #9112 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by impmonkey View Post

Jriver can be controlled thru IP commands. There is a Device in the builder with the codes built in. Make sure your firewall on the pc allows the commands thru.

When I search for Jriver, nothing pops up.  Should I be searching for a different name?

post #9113 of 9744
Search in the community section.
post #9114 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by impmonkey View Post

Search in the community section.

BINGO!!!!  Many thanks! it'll automatically pick up Jriver on the network, right?  This is exciting!

post #9115 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

BINGO!!!!  Many thanks! it'll automatically pick up Jriver on the network, right?  This is exciting!
Nope. You will need to setup an HTTP gateway, port 52199, and HTTP GET method, pointed at your computers IP address. Then add the device to the gateway.
I know this sound difficult but after you add one you will be a pro.

You might also want to look at embedding the webgizmo as an embedded url widget.
post #9116 of 9744
Thanks impmonkey, got it to work.
post #9117 of 9744
Hi,
I'm trying iRule in trial version for now on my phone (Sony Xperia, Android), and I have network problem.

I configured it to control my preamp by a global cache GC100-12, and this part works good.

But I also would like to control my HTPC with iRule.

For this, I installed Eventghost on my computer, and read several tutorials to make it works.... but it doesn't.
Or more precisely, it works, and after one hour, it doesn't work anymore. Yesterday and today it does the same thing...
I don't understand. mad.gif

If my buttons already worked once, it says my gateway and network are well parametred. No ?

Here is my network :

IP internet box : 192.168.1.1
IP HTPC : 192.168.1.12 with username and password
mask 255.255.0.0
Broadcaster in eventghost Zone : 192.168.1.1
UDP port 33339 (open in the firewall)
Listening address : 192.168.1.12
Respond to self broadcast : yes


IP phone : 192.168.1.13

In iRule, my Gateway :
ipV4 adress 192.168.1.12
Port 33339
Username and password from my HTPC


The problem may come from iRule, because when it doesn't work, the emitting symbol is yellow.
When it works, it's green.




If you have an idea ? Thanks...wink.gif
post #9118 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

BINGO!!!!  Many thanks! it'll automatically pick up Jriver on the network, right?  This is exciting!
I think there are two J. River devices in the community section. I created the first one after the J. River folks responded to my request to make the controls available via http. You can use MCE Controller to start and exit from J. River Media Center. You can also embed WebGizmo in an iRule page as a URL.
post #9119 of 9744
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazuya (FR) View Post

Hi,
I'm trying iRule in trial version for now on my phone (Sony Xperia, Android), and I have network problem.

I configured it to control my preamp by a global cache GC100-12, and this part works good.

But I also would like to control my HTPC with iRule.

For this, I installed Eventghost on my computer, and read several tutorials to make it works.... but it doesn't.
Or more precisely, it works, and after one hour, it doesn't work anymore. Yesterday and today it does the same thing...
I don't understand. mad.gif

If my buttons already worked once, it says my gateway and network are well parametred. No ?

Here is my network :

IP internet box : 192.168.1.1
IP HTPC : 192.168.1.12 with username and password
mask 255.255.0.0
Broadcaster in eventghost Zone : 192.168.1.1
UDP port 33339 (open in the firewall)
Listening address : 192.168.1.12
Respond to self broadcast : yes


IP phone : 192.168.1.13

In iRule, my Gateway :
ipV4 adress 192.168.1.12
Port 33339
Username and password from my HTPC


The problem may come from iRule, because when it doesn't work, the emitting symbol is yellow.
When it works, it's green.




If you have an idea ? Thanks...wink.gif
Have you made the address of the htpc static or reserved it in your router settings? If the address changes you lose control.
post #9120 of 9744
Thanks for your answer, yes, I think so.

Here is what I did :

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