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post #9421 of 9739
I got the Tach IR controller in from Amazon today. I have had no problems with setting up my Denon but am getting nowhere with the Sharp TV. I have went through all the tutorials on irule but I can't get them together. It shows up on my PC as being in the network but I can't access it from the pc like I can with the Denon. Any ideas
post #9422 of 9739
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Originally Posted by Displaced Husker View Post

I got the Tach IR controller in from Amazon today. I have had no problems with setting up my Denon but am getting nowhere with the Sharp TV. I have went through all the tutorials on irule but I can't get them together. It shows up on my PC as being in the network but I can't access it from the pc like I can with the Denon. Any ideas

Are you trying to control it thru IP or IR? what model is it?

I think I just responded to you on the irule support site. But will copy my response here for the record lol.

"A good test would be to see if it will allow a telnet connection from your pc to the sharp on that port.
In windows open a cmd window and type this command: telnet IPADDRESSOFTV PORT number. For instance my tvs ip is 10.10.25.203 and the port is 10002. So the command is: telnet 10.10.25.203 10002
If the command just sits and trys to connect the tv is not responding on that port. If the command disappears and cursor blinks it means that the tv is listening for command on that port.
(note: windows 7 needs telnet client installed from add/remove features in control panel before you can use the command above.)

Now if it does go to the blinking cursor the problem is with the gateway or something in irule.

I have the 60" version of this TV and can confirm the above instructions do work."
Edited by impmonkey - 1/18/14 at 2:49pm
post #9423 of 9739
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

Here is where we discussed it before:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1351981/irule/8370#post_23332742


I don't have any pictures, sorry. I installed the GC-100-12 in my equipment rack in the basement. When I finished things off down there I ran a couple cat5 wires to the garage with the thought that I might install a security camera there. Since then I've done nothing with them until recently when I used 1 to put a wireless access point/extender on 1 of them and used the other for control of the garage doors.

Inside the cat5 is 4 twisted pairs. I used 1 set of twisted pairs for each garage door. I connected to the buttons mounted on the wall. Stripped a bit of the wire and loosened the screws on the back of the buttons where the wires that got to the the opener motors are attached and added the cat5 wires. Then at the equipment rack I connected the other ends of the twisteed pairs into the connector blocks and plugged them in to the relay inputs on the GC-100.

In the builder I imported the Global Cache Relay device. I use command relay 1 open delay .8 seconds, relay 1 close, delay .7 seconds and relay 1 close again to make sure the garage door "button" comes unpressed so it will respond to other inputs from the remote in the car or the button the wall made things work nicely.

I think any old wire would work. Obviously you can put the GC-100-12 anywhere that it can connect to your network and can be wired to the garage door. I was kind of lucky that in my over wiring during my basement finishing process I included some extra cat5 to the garage which worked perfectly for this process.

I use it in combination with the Tasker app on my android phone. When my phone connects to my home wifi network when I get within range, Tasker launches iRule and the home page in landscape orientation that just has a big #1 and #2 button pressing either triggers the respective garage door. When taking a walk with the kids I only need my phone with me which is nice. With my phone in the cradle in my car, as I get to about 2 houses away from my drive, up pops the garage door page for easy use.

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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

1. No. You will need RS232 Global Cache gateway for Oppo. Everything else is IP controllable.
2. Not sure about Oppo, but with Denon module you should be able to do that.
3. Not sure what you mean.



Alex

For item 3, I'll rephrase - can iRule call up another app on an iphone or ipad to run. In this instance, it might be iRule calling the Oppo remote control app.


I have been wondering the same thing as the OP. It would be most useful if I rule could launch a third party app for a remote or interface inside of iRule. I would imagine it could show up in a window allowing other customized buttons for volume to still be used without having to use task manager to switch around and get back to iRule. This may not be possible today, but is it even possible with Android to launch one app inside of another app given enough programming experience?
post #9424 of 9739
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Originally Posted by eelton View Post

Having just been through this...

I believe what you need to do is reset the GC-100. You do this by shorting pins 2 and 7 of the first serial port (the second from the left in the top row and the second from the left in the bottom row) with a screwdriver, while at the same time plugging in the power cable.

After this, the GC-100 will be on its default ip address of 192.168.1.70. You can open that page in a browser, and from there set up the GC-100, giving it whatever ip address you want.

I'll give this a shot. Thanks!
post #9425 of 9739
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Originally Posted by hoehne View Post




I have been wondering the same thing as the OP. It would be most useful if I rule could launch a third party app for a remote or interface inside of iRule. I would imagine it could show up in a window allowing other customized buttons for volume to still be used without having to use task manager to switch around and get back to iRule. This may not be possible today, but is it even possible with Android to launch one app inside of another app given enough programming experience?
IRule can launch another app. I have it set up to open the Netflix and Youtube apps with buttons on a panel I use with my Chromecast.
post #9426 of 9739
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Originally Posted by Steve Goff View Post

IRule can launch another app. I have it set up to open the Netflix and Youtube apps with buttons on a panel I use with my Chromecast.

Like I said, it would be useful if iRule could launch another app inside of iRule. It has been fully stated you can launch out to a third party app, but like I said, you don't have iRule available for volume or source selection unless you use a task manager to get back to it. I currently use iRule to launch Yatze to control XBMC which is a great interface, but once you get there, you loose control of everything else and have no way to return.

I would really like to build in the Oppo, Yatze, Directv apps to iRule and have those as pages or windows within iRule. That means less possible programming for iRule users and may provide a richer user experience.

My big question is whether the Android architecture and iRule would even allow this type of action. If it is possible, I think many people would benefit from it.
post #9427 of 9739
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Originally Posted by hoehne View Post

Like I said, it would be useful if iRule could launch another app inside of iRule. It has been fully stated you can launch out to a third party app, but like I said, you don't have iRule available for volume or source selection unless you use a task manager to get back to it. I currently use iRule to launch Yatze to control XBMC which is a great interface, but once you get there, you loose control of everything else and have no way to return.

I would really like to build in the Oppo, Yatze, Directv apps to iRule and have those as pages or windows within iRule. That means less possible programming for iRule users and may provide a richer user experience.

My big question is whether the Android architecture and iRule would even allow this type of action. If it is possible, I think many people would benefit from it.
I didn't understand your meaning. I don't think that is possible, though you can include a web interface within a page.
post #9428 of 9739
What kind of success (or lack thereof) have people had with direct IR inputs--i.e., without an emitter?

I have two components, both from the same manufacturer (Lexicon) with direct IR inputs. Both worked with my GC-100. But I had other issues with that unit, so I've replaced it with an iTach wf2ir. Now only one of the two components works with the direct IR input. The other works fine with an emitter, so everything is otherwise set up correctly.

I also have an iTech flex on order. Has anyone used that unit with direct IR inputs?

I see that Global Cache says that an adapter cable (GC-CGX) is needed to use direct IR inputs with Xantech IR distribution units, but they don't say anything about other direct inputs.
post #9429 of 9739
Can't say I tried direct IR. I have seen the input in some of my devices, but have gone with with emitter, IP, or serial. Serial is probably the most solid connection. It's old and trustworthy. IP works well with some manufacturers. I seem to be having a lot of issues lately with my Marantz since their last firmware update.
The Wifi and Ethernet to IR global caches have the last port to be optionally set up as blaster. Are you using this one for either of your units? Also, I found that you can't really split the port if you need more IR outputs. The signal is too weak I assume.
post #9430 of 9739
I'm using port 1 on the wf2ir. I had planned to use splitters, but I haven't received them yet, so I have only one device plugged into each port.

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Originally Posted by isisyodin View Post

Can't say I tried direct IR. I have seen the input in some of my devices, but have gone with with emitter, IP, or serial. Serial is probably the most solid connection. It's old and trustworthy. IP works well with some manufacturers. I seem to be having a lot of issues lately with my Marantz since their last firmware update.
The Wifi and Ethernet to IR global caches have the last port to be optionally set up as blaster. Are you using this one for either of your units? Also, I found that you can't really split the port if you need more IR outputs. The signal is too weak I assume.
post #9431 of 9739
I thought you said 2 lexicons... I assumed one per port leaving one port opened. In any case port 3 is the one that can be setup as IR Blaster and is the furthest away from the power input. I would try Lexi 1 on port 1 and Lexi 2 on port 2.
post #9432 of 9739
I have been using the direct IR inputs (without an emitter) with an iTach for about 3 years with no issues on 2 different Onkyo Receivers. Never did any research on it but always thought it was the way to go and seems like it would make a more stable connection.
post #9433 of 9739
I've used direct IR to control my Oppo player, with great success.
post #9434 of 9739
Yes, that's what I'm doing. One unit works and the other doesn't. I tried swapping the two cables, so that's not it. I'll see what happens with the iTach Flex when I get it.
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Originally Posted by isisyodin View Post

I thought you said 2 lexicons... I assumed one per port leaving one port opened. In any case port 3 is the one that can be setup as IR Blaster and is the furthest away from the power input. I would try Lexi 1 on port 1 and Lexi 2 on port 2.
post #9435 of 9739
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Originally Posted by eelton View Post

Yes, that's what I'm doing. One unit works and the other doesn't. I tried swapping the two cables, so that's not it. I'll see what happens with the iTach Flex when I get it.

I had trouble getting my iTach Flex working well with more than one IR output using the 3x splitter cable option. In the end I was able to get two (IR1 and IR2) emitters working only by enabling the "IR Blaster on Port 3 = True" option even though I don't have a blaster connected. Selecting "False" would only allow IR1 to work.

I think the problem is that iRule doesn't officially support the iTach Flex (even though they sell it on their site) and that there might be some bugs in the iTach firmware. There might be something that's changed in the IR routing between the Flex and non-Flex devices where assigning the IR ports doesn't quite work the same.
post #9436 of 9739
OK I'm sort of an iRule noob. I've gotten over the technical side of the gateways, the IR/Serial/IP controll devices to make sure they all work, and I have my 4 devices listed in my builder. But if I try to add an activity, or steal a layout like someone's FIOS remote, it says I have no shared devices and therefore can't add the devices I already have to the activity, so i can't continue in the builder. For a FIOS remote, building the whole thing would be a pain. At least for watch a movie I need very few buttons total.
post #9437 of 9739
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

OK I'm sort of an iRule noob. I've gotten over the technical side of the gateways, the IR/Serial/IP controll devices to make sure they all work, and I have my 4 devices listed in my builder. But if I try to add an activity, or steal a layout like someone's FIOS remote, it says I have no shared devices and therefore can't add the devices I already have to the activity, so i can't continue in the builder. For a FIOS remote, building the whole thing would be a pain. At least for watch a movie I need very few buttons total.

Using a shared panel is a feature of the Pro builder package.
post #9438 of 9739
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

Using a shared panel is a feature of the Pro builder package.

I have that... it's not that I can't get the panel, it's that it says I have no shared devices, or that I can't or dont know how to link the devices i have to that panel
post #9439 of 9739
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

I have that... it's not that I can't get the panel, it's that it says I have no shared devices, or that I can't or dont know how to link the devices i have to that panel

So, you already got the panel and the layout?
I thought you would just need to open up that page, and then drag the device command over (yes, I did that one by one).
post #9440 of 9739
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Originally Posted by Steve Goff View Post

I didn't understand your meaning. I don't think that is possible, though you can include a web interface within a page.

He wants the ability to have the 3rd apps (like Oppo) within irule, sort of like irule overlaying on top on those apps. Currently, the problem of "linking" those apps inside irule is that once you click the link, you LEAVE irule. By having it "inside irule", the hope is that I can still open drawer to control my PJ settings, my AVR volume etc, while at the same time use the 3rd party apps to do other things like browsing, swipe and share etc.

I actually like this idea, but I think this is probably close to not possible in iOS... as not every ios apps had the URL handler (I try to get the Panasonic Remote2), let alone giving the whole interface to irule.. Android may have some chance..
post #9441 of 9739
^^ Yes I understand now, but don't think it can be done other than by a module created by the makers of iRule.
post #9442 of 9739
Are there known issues with iRule working on Android? I have recently begun using iRule on a Galaxy Tab 3... The main issue I am having is that I keep loosing the Gateways I have created . I am not sure if it is is the Galaxy tab causing the problem or if it is Android 4.1.2. Thanks
post #9443 of 9739
I have a Galaxy Tab 2 and I don't have any issues with gateways. The only gripes I have are the lack of features and updates with Android.
post #9444 of 9739
Yes, I noticed the multi-state buttons don't work in Android.. Also, the keypad hides some of the fields and have to input blind at times... (like the MAC address when WOL is enabled).. Is there an extra step to saving the Gateway after it is created? Do you just enter the information and then back out? Thanks
post #9445 of 9739
You just enter the info and back out.
post #9446 of 9739
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Originally Posted by Doug Balentine View Post

Yes, I noticed the multi-state buttons don't work in Android.. Also, the keypad hides some of the fields and have to input blind at times...

Variables don't work either
post #9447 of 9739
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Originally Posted by Doug Balentine View Post

Are there known issues with iRule working on Android? I have recently begun using iRule on a Galaxy Tab 3... The main issue I am having is that I keep loosing the Gateways I have created . I am not sure if it is is the Galaxy tab causing the problem or if it is Android 4.1.2. Thanks


Here's my list of Android issues that I posted on the iRule website (I didn't include the gateway issue you refer to, but I've had that as well):


1) Buttons placed using the full resolution grid end up across the screen from where they should be. It's worse with some devices than others.

2) With the standard resolution screen, there can be slight variations from the expected WYSIWYG behavior. I've mostly noticed this with cursor icons I've made and placed as background images--they end up a bit off on the final page, and so don't line up with buttons on the foreground layer. I'm probably asking for trouble making my own custom buttons, but it should work.

3) The sound on keypress works intermittently. Once it stops working, I have to restart the app to get it going again.

4) My buttons sometimes become nonresponsive--sometimes for a press or two, and sometimes indefinitely (at least 10 tries at pressing a key). When it's the indefinite pattern, I have to go to another page and then return, at which point it starts working again.

5) The native Android back button works some of the time and not others in iRule. It seems random, and perhaps device dependent-i.e., the same back sequence works on one device but then not another.

6) Gestures don't work for me on my Nexus 7. The tap gestures don't work at all, and the swipe gestures are unreliable, particularly the two-finger type.

7) Intermittent crashes on pressing the "sync" button.

8) Lag on swiping from one screen to another. I don't think this is my device, which responds quickly to inputs in other apps.

9) Hold on press doesn't work well (volume control, dimming lights, etc.)
post #9448 of 9739
Can someone point me in the direction on how to disable swiping between pages? If that's possible. I thought swipe disable was a newer feature and I'm finding that grabbing drawers can sometimes swipe to another page. I hope it's doable.
post #9449 of 9739
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Originally Posted by ekkoville View Post

Can someone point me in the direction on how to disable swiping between pages? If that's possible. I thought swipe disable was a newer feature and I'm finding that grabbing drawers can sometimes swipe to another page. I hope it's doable.

You click on the panel in the list on the left and below that you will see Swipe Disabled. Select Yes.
post #9450 of 9739
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

You click on the panel in the list on the left and below that you will see Swipe Disabled. Select Yes.

So it must be in the properties window in the bottom left? I seem to miss things there. Thanks, I'll have a look.
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