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post #9631 of 9745
I'll be checking my email tomorrow. Thanks
post #9632 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ScAndal View Post

Damn you! I was looking forward to a good night sleep tonight wink.gif
Gave you a thumbs-up for that one! biggrin.gif

You know, you should probably get that good night of sleep tonight, because tomorrow night you'll want to stay up and play. wink.gif

SC
post #9633 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

There wouldn't happen to be any iRule Android users here that would be interested in a brand new, re-built, optimized, shiny new version of iRule would there? If so, you may want to sign up for the iRule newsletter, and you may also want to watch your inboxes. Tomorrow, perhaps. That's all I'm saying… Wait… I see something about variables, multi-state buttons, a full-resolution grid, new handset templates, and a whole slew of other stuff, too.

'Night, all. smile.gif

Cheers,
SC

Great. I've got to update a handset in the next couple days because of an equipment swap. I've also been holding out on perfecting my lighting screens until the next update.

I don't know if I was already signed up for the newsletter, but I submitted my address just now to be sure. Still haven't received the confirmation that it said I would receive.

My Android handsets are 2x Nexus 5 (same config), 4x Nexus 7 (3 same config, 1 different), and an HP Touchpad that I may or may not finish.
post #9634 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

There wouldn't happen to be any iRule Android users here that would be interested in a brand new, re-built, optimized, shiny new version of iRule would there? If so, you may want to sign up for the iRule newsletter, and you may also want to watch your inboxes. Tomorrow, perhaps. That's all I'm saying… Wait… I see something about variables, multi-state buttons, a full-resolution grid, new handset templates, and a whole slew of other stuff, too.

'Night, all. smile.gif

Cheers,
SC

My LG G2 can not wait.. I may have already rebuilt most of the remote in anticipation of the release!
Edit: It is now completely rebuilt. Don't fail me now!
Edited by impmonkey - 2/25/14 at 1:21pm
post #9635 of 9745
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Originally Posted by impmonkey View Post

My LG G2 can not wait.. I may have already rebuilt most of the remote in anticipation of the release!
Edit: It is now completely rebuilt. Don't fail me now!

Now waiting on Google. Any of you who don't want to wait the 30 minutes to an hour or two for Google to approve, there's a spanky new .apk file on the downloads page.

You heard about it here first! wink.gif

Hope you all like it!

Cheers,
SC
post #9636 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

Now waiting on Google. Any of you who don't want to wait the 30 minutes to an hour or two for Google to approve, there's a spanky new .apk file on the downloads page.

You heard about it here first! wink.gif

Hope you all like it!

Cheers,
SC

Updated! Looks pretty good.
Had to adjust my screen usable area for my G2 to scale it correctly. But looks good.
Update. When I go to the home screen and then reopen the app it displays the panel selection screen instead of the panel it was on when I hit home. If I hit back it goes back to the panel I left it at. If out of the app for an extended period of time the app opens back up the home panel.
Ideas?
Edited by impmonkey - 2/25/14 at 6:37pm
post #9637 of 9745
I'm an early adopter of iRule but my setup has been stagnant for a long time. I want to give iRule another go and really want to control interior and exterior (landscape) lighting.

Lighting does not seem very straightforward. There doesn't appear to be light switches that are directly IP controllable. Why can't there be a light switch with an ethernet jack on the back that controls it? I feel like I am missing something. What is the best most straightforward way to do lighting controlled by iRule?
post #9638 of 9745
Android update seems to have broken my ISY module.
post #9639 of 9745
I using it for about 3 hours now the new version and had it lock up had to force close applications started back up
post #9640 of 9745
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Originally Posted by poppakap View Post

I'm an early adopter of iRule but my setup has been stagnant for a long time. I want to give iRule another go and really want to control interior and exterior (landscape) lighting.

Lighting does not seem very straightforward. There doesn't appear to be light switches that are directly IP controllable. Why can't there be a light switch with an ethernet jack on the back that controls it? I feel like I am missing something. What is the best most straightforward way to do lighting controlled by iRule?

Lighing automation in general is not as well evolved as you might like. I think it will get there, but for now it is expensive and clunky.

Zwave works pretty well. iRule supports the Leviton 232 - zwave interface. You do not need the leviton plug in, which in my experience does not work well. There are zwave devices in iRule that work better than the plug in.
post #9641 of 9745
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Originally Posted by Club Chapin View Post

Lighing automation in general is not as well evolved as you might like. I think it will get there, but for now it is expensive and clunky.

Zwave works pretty well. iRule supports the Leviton 232 - zwave interface. You do not need the leviton plug in, which in my experience does not work well. There are zwave devices in iRule that work better than the plug in.

Thanks. I appreciate it. Im pretty by the lack of good lightin solutions.

I just found this which is interesting: http://www.controlanything.com/Relay/Device/P12C2-250HS_USB&Category_Code=LIGHT_DIMMER
It looks like a multi channel dimmer. Basically attach your romex and control with Cat5. Anyone heard of this before?
post #9642 of 9745
I've had over 165 Insteon lighting devices for over 7 years now when they were supposedly unstable ( have replaced 3 in 7 years) and they have been getting controlled by iRule for 16 months......rock solid every time
post #9643 of 9745
Anyone having trouble with the new Android update taking longer to lock into the gateways?
post #9644 of 9745
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Originally Posted by poppakap View Post

Thanks. I appreciate it. Im pretty by the lack of good lightin solutions.

I just found this which is interesting: http://www.controlanything.com/Relay/Device/P12C2-250HS_USB&Category_Code=LIGHT_DIMMER
It looks like a multi channel dimmer. Basically attach your romex and control with Cat5. Anyone heard of this before?

Insteon stuff is very cheap for lighting control. ISY994 and serial PLM for controller is under $300. Irule's ISY module is $25.

It's far from expensive or half baked.

ISY can have a learning curve, but you get out of it what you put in. There's a multitude of great, inexpensive lighting solutions.
post #9645 of 9745
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Originally Posted by poppakap View Post

Thanks. I appreciate it. Im pretty by the lack of good lightin solutions.

I just found this which is interesting: http://www.controlanything.com/Relay/Device/P12C2-250HS_USB&Category_Code=LIGHT_DIMMER
It looks like a multi channel dimmer. Basically attach your romex and control with Cat5. Anyone heard of this before?

With all due respect, there are several good lighting solutions, suitable for almost every budget, application, and project size.

The controller you posted is fairly expensive for what it is, and I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense for how most of use automated lighting solutions in a home. It would require special wiring, and it controls only LED and incandescent lighting; no inductive or fluorescent loads. Just to give you an example, for the same money as that controller, you could get an ISY with PLM along with a dozen dimmer switches. The automation would be far superior to trying to put together something on your own, and the system would be far more expandable, supporting more dimmers, switches, lamp and appliance modules, sensors, contact closure, and much more.

Before we make a recommendation though, let's answer some questions about your needs and wants. How many loads would you like to control? What type(s) of lighting? Would you like to expand to more later? Do you want to control just your theater, or would you like to control several different rooms? Do you want automation or just basic control? Do you have a target budget for lighting control?

Cheers,
SC
post #9646 of 9745
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Originally Posted by Club Chapin View Post

Lighing automation in general is not as well evolved as you might like. I think it will get there, but for now it is expensive and clunky.

Zwave works pretty well. iRule supports the Leviton 232 - zwave interface. You do not need the leviton plug in, which in my experience does not work well. There are zwave devices in iRule that work better than the plug in.

just to add a bit. instead of the leviton serial controller. . . a micasa verde

i switched to one a year ago and it is much faster than the leviton controller. the module works fine in irule for it. this will also open up other automation options for a user on a cheaper basis vs HAI which would also be another more expensive solution for zwave lighting control.

jim
post #9647 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

Now waiting on Google. Any of you who don't want to wait the 30 minutes to an hour or two for Google to approve, there's a spanky new .apk file on the downloads page.

You heard about it here first! wink.gif

Hope you all like it!

Cheers,
SC

Great news about the Android update. When will this update be available on the Amazon Kindle store?

Thanks.

Mark
post #9648 of 9745
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Great news about the Android update. When will this update be available on the Amazon Kindle store?

There were apparently some issues releasing on Amazon, but they're working on it.

In the meantime, you can download the APK from the iRule site and side-load to your Kindle Fire.

http://iruleathome.com/support/irule-downloads

There is apparently an updated build with a minor fix just about ready, so you may want to wait a couple of hours.

Cheers,
SC
post #9649 of 9745
I posted this on the irule support board, but I thought i'd go ahead and put it here too, in case anyone here has any insight...

I've recently added a venstar t1900 thermostat w/ 2441v adapter to my insteon setup, and I'm having trouble with some of the feedback from it. All of my irule insteon communications are raw hex (plm connected to digi portserver), and I'm using docklight to interact with and observe the communication. The problem arises from the fact that for the 2441v, several different queries use the same cmd1 with different values in cmd2, and the responses don't differentiate other than in the echoed command... and irule seems to ignore the echoed command. For instance, to query for temperature you send the following command:

02 62 14 13 AC 00 6A 00

where 6A is cmd1 and 00 specifies temperature in cmd2. To query for humidity, the command is

02 62 14 13 AC 00 6A 60

where 6A is again cmd1, but this time cmd2 changes to 60 to specify humidity as opposed to temp.

the responses, respectively, are

02 62 14 13 AC 00 6A 00 06 02 50 14 13 AC 18 CE F4 21 6A xx
and
02 62 14 13 AC 00 6A 60 06 02 50 14 13 AC 18 CE F4 21 6A yy

where xx and yy are temperature and humidity. The first 9 bytes of each response are the echoed command and the acknowledgement from the plm, while the remaining 11 are the actual response message from the thermostat. As you can see, the thermostat's responses only give the blanket command they're responding to (cmd1 - 6A) and the value of the parameter they were queried for. They give no indication of which parameter the value corresponds to. For that, you have to look at cmd2 in the echoed command.

To deal with this situation I initially set my feedbacks up with prefixes that included the echoed command (note that the "starts with", "ends with", and "suffix" boxes are left blank). My temperature prefix was \x02\x62\x14\x13\xAC\x00\x6A\x00*\x6A, and my humidity prefix was \x02\x62\x14\x13\xAC\x00\x6A\x60*\x6A. This resulted in nothing at all being displayed when queries are made. However, if I change it so that my prefix looks only at the thermostat's response (\x02\x50\x14\x13\xAC*\x6A) it works fine... except that without the echoed command, the prefixes for both temperature and humidity wind up being the same thing. So any time you query for either temperature OR humidity, you get the returned value displayed for both temperature AND humidity. I've tried it as both tokenized and non-tokenized, and the results are the same either way - works without the echoed command, does not work with the echoed command.

Can anyone tell me why it is that irule seems to ignore the echoed command part of the response, and what I might be able to do work around this if it can't be changed? The three most important parameters - temperature, humidity, and setpoints - are all 6A commands.
post #9650 of 9745
In case anybody isn't updating automatically, Android version 2.0.4 is available on Google Play and on the iRule site downloads page. There are a couple of fixes for ISY and drawer and variables in 2.0.3, and HTTP connected devices in 2.0.4.

Hope everybody has a great weekend playing!

Cheers,
SC
post #9651 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

In case anybody isn't updating automatically, Android version 2.0.4 is available on Google Play and on the iRule site downloads page. There are a couple of fixes for ISY and drawer and variables in 2.0.3, and HTTP connected devices in 2.0.4.

Hope everybody has a great weekend playing!

Cheers,
SC

Yes, I've been noticing an iRule update every time I look at my tablet. I guess that makes up for the dry period before version 2.0.
post #9652 of 9745
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Originally Posted by ecrabb View Post

In case anybody isn't updating automatically, Android version 2.0.4 is available on Google Play and on the iRule site downloads page. There are a couple of fixes for ISY and drawer and variables in 2.0.3, and HTTP connected devices in 2.0.4.

Hope everybody has a great weekend playing!

Cheers,
SC

I'm still having trouble with variable substitution for the "name" field in a command on the Android V2.0.4 release. It works in the iOS version but the Android version is just executing the "original" underlying command instead of the value of the variable.

Anyone else trying to use this feature?

Jeff
post #9653 of 9745
Is there a single code for the JVC lens memory settings that can be used to switch aspect ratios? I have 16:9 on the first spot and 2.35:1 in the second. On the JVC remote you have to hit a total of three buttons to make them switch (Lens Memory, arrow down/up, then Enter).

I may also add several other aspect ratios so I may need a code for each of the 5 slots.
post #9654 of 9745
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

Is there a single code for the JVC lens memory settings that can be used to switch aspect ratios? I have 16:9 on the first spot and 2.35:1 in the second. On the JVC remote you have to hit a total of three buttons to make them switch (Lens Memory, arrow down/up, then Enter).

I may also add several other aspect ratios so I may need a code for each of the 5 slots.

 

 

Here is the HEX command to go to Memory Slot 1:

 

21 89 01 49 4E 4D 4C 30 0A

 

Do you have the JVC RS232 and LAN guide?  If not, it has more commands than are included in the projector manual.  You can download it here:

 

RS-232C, LAN and Infrared Remote Control Guide

 

It mentions several models, but it works with the newer projectors as well.

 

Nick

post #9655 of 9745
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post


Here is the HEX command to go to Memory Slot 1:

21 89 01 49 4E 4D 4C 30 0A

Do you have the JVC RS232 and LAN guide?  If not, it has more commands than are included in the projector manual.  You can download it here:

RS-232C, LAN and Infrared Remote Control Guide

It mentions several models, but it works with the newer projectors as well.

Nick

I did not have that. I will give it a shot and see if I can add them all. Thanks.
post #9656 of 9745
Is there anyone doing feedback using the Yamaha HTTP codes or maybe a similar XML based GET? All the feedback devices in iRule are for YNCA (RS232/IP) and I need to switch to YNC (HTTP) due to YNCA only supporting one device at a time. I need to be able to fire up my tablet or my wife use hers at any time. I noticed I'm having a gateway issue with using IP codes and only one device will connect. I think it worked before version 2.0, but it probably wasn't supposed to. I see in the YNC/YNCA spec that YNC supports 4 devices and YNCA supports 1.

post #9657 of 9745
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

Is there anyone doing feedback using the Yamaha HTTP codes or maybe a similar XML based GET? All the feedback devices in iRule are for YNCA (RS232/IP) and I need to switch to YNC (HTTP) due to YNCA only supporting one device at a time. I need to be able to fire up my tablet or my wife use hers at any time. I noticed I'm having a gateway issue with using IP codes and only one device will connect. I think it worked before version 2.0, but it probably wasn't supposed to. I see in the YNC/YNCA spec that YNC supports 4 devices and YNCA supports 1.


Search again under IRULE tab. I just enabled the sharing on zone 1-4 of the yamaha http feedback.
post #9658 of 9745
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Originally Posted by osupike99 View Post

Search again under IRULE tab. I just enabled the sharing on zone 1-4 of the yamaha http feedback.

I see it. Thanks!
post #9659 of 9745
I was wondering if someone could help me with creating a custom feedback. I'm trying to get just a simple volume feedback to display on my Samsung Galaxy Tab. I have a Sherbourn PT-7030. There are no feedbacks uploaded in the community tab for this device. I have the RS-232 protocol documentation but it seems much more complicated than some of the other stuff I've looked at. I've done hours of research and can't seem to figure out exactly what I'm supposed to be typing into the prefix and suffix field, etc. I think this particular unit requires you to calculate a checksum for the final byte and I have no clue how to do that.
Here is what the manual says:

Standard Command String Format
Start Count DeviceID Type Key Checksum
0xFE 0x03 0xA5 0x10 0xXX 0xXX
The count byte only includes the ID, Type and Key Bytes. It does not include the start or checksum byte.
Do not include any carriage returns or line feeds after commands.

Standard Response String Format
Start Count ID Type Data Checksum
0xFE 0x31 0xA5 0x20 Char1 … Char42 Flag1 … Flag 5 0xXX
The feedback string is a representation of the display of the unit. The Char1-Char42 data bytes contain ASCii data representing the text that appears across the 2 lines of the front display. It can contain source input, volume, and surround mode data and should be parsed to obtain information. The flag data bytes contain data on which of the various icons on the front display are currently illuminated. The display status uses 2 bits in Flag3 to confirm if the front display is on or off. Here is a link to the full document in case I'm missing something, here. It is a PDF so I think you may have to download it but I typed out exactly what the manual said verbatim.

There is a table explaining what the flag data bytes are but I don't need to know about any of that. I just want the volume feedback. I'm assuming that means this would be tokenized feedback, correct? Like I said I've done hours upon hours of research but I can't find anywhere that explains what all the fields are supposed to be filled with such as constant length. Obviously everything starts with FE but once you get into the code section of the feedback, it asks for a prefix and a suffix. Then the actual value asks for a formula. The Sherbourn uses a volume scale of 0-100. So what would the formula be for that?

HELP!!!
post #9660 of 9745
So with the Android 2.0 update is there now any reason to prefer iOS over Android? I don't use any modules so maybe that is the difference, but since the update the Android app now does everything I was missing from the iOS app.

I've got three Nexus 7s (2013) and two Nexus 5s controlling my home system and an option of either a Nexus 7 (2013) or iPad Mini (1st Gen) for a home theater. I had switched the theater over to the iPad prior to Android 2.0, but now I can't think of anything I'd be missing from the iOS layout.

One big plus for me on the Android app is that it is so easy to launch apps without hoping the iOS developer added the needed code to allow launching. I want a Chromecast page that has a list of all the compatible apps (Pandora, Netflix, Hulu Plus, Plex) where you can get the system powered up, land on the Chromecast page, and then select what app you wish to connect. With iOS I can only do apps that allow launching from iRule, but with Android I can do any app with a simple Play Store address copy and paste.
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