The "Official" Pioneer Elite SC-55/SC-57 Owners Thread - Page 97

Originally Posted by PV Boy

My SC-55, which is working well generally, has repeatedly (every couple of days) refused to respond to the iControl AV2 app on various of my IOs Apple devices, an iPhone 4, an iPhone 3 GS, and 2 iPads, 1 first generation, and the other an iPad 2. I get an error message code 57113 and "check your device" message and cannot reconnect until I go to the receiver, pull the power cord or hold the power button for about 10 seconds, then turn the receiver back on. Anyone know what the bug is? and, of course, how to fix it. Very annoying to have the machine repeatedly lose remote connectivity. The receiver is connected to my home network via ethernet and two hubs back to my Apple Time Machine Station/Router.

Also, I could not get the Zone 2 hook-up to run for more than about 20-30 minutes without shutting off when I was connecting the Front Wide speaker outs via a Niles Impedance compensated speaker switch and volume control with two sets of small 8 ohm bookshelf speakers. It continued to shut down even after I changed the hook-up to one using my vintage MacIntosh 2100 power amp connected to the ZONE 2 Pre-amp outs on the SC-55. There must be some thermal overload circuit to prevent you from conncecting more than one set of speakers to any Zone 2 configuation. It's kind of ironic, too, because my old Integra AV amp, jury-rigged to switch component video through a Zector a/v switch would run all day via its multi-source pre-amp outs connected to multiple speaker pairs via the Niles. Not so, for the Pioneer in Zone 2. When I switched the MacIntosh to the ZONE 3 pre-amp outs, the system plays perfectly, with no shut-offs. Anyone know why this is?

Any help or advice about the repeated IOS remote app problem would be helpful. Is this problem wide-spread with Pioneer Air Play receivers. Also, the receiver won't play any podcasts, even though the web site lists hundreds you can connect to. Why is this? The internet radio stations play OK, though.

Originally Posted by DEF66

Thanks. I also contacted pioneer support and they explained it the same way. I have that now. I am now trying to figure out the icontrol 2 app. i have it on my iphone but it is telling me there is a network error. I am on my home wifi, and I was not sure if i need to manually enter my ip address. I didnt have to do any of that for the receiver at initial intstall it did it automatically. Having trouble finding any setup info online . I just dont want to get everything screwed up. I have everything working now afraid to start punching buttons.

Originally Posted by PV Boy

My SC-55, which is working well generally, has repeatedly (every couple of days) refused to respond to the iControl AV2 app on various of my IOs Apple devices, an iPhone 4, an iPhone 3 GS, and 2 iPads, 1 first generation, and the other an iPad 2. I get an error message code 57113 and "check your device" message and cannot reconnect until I go to the receiver, pull the power cord or hold the power button for about 10 seconds, then turn the receiver back on. Anyone know what the bug is? and, of course, how to fix it. Very annoying to have the machine repeatedly lose remote connectivity. The receiver is connected to my home network via ethernet and two hubs back to my Apple Time Machine Station/Router.

Also, I could not get the Zone 2 hook-up to run for more than about 20-30 minutes without shutting off when I was connecting the Front Wide speaker outs via a Niles Impedance compensated speaker switch and volume control with two sets of small 8 ohm bookshelf speakers. It continued to shut down even after I changed the hook-up to one using my vintage MacIntosh 2100 power amp connected to the ZONE 2 Pre-amp outs on the SC-55. There must be some thermal overload circuit to prevent you from conncecting more than one set of speakers to any Zone 2 configuation. It's kind of ironic, too, because my old Integra AV amp, jury-rigged to switch component video through a Zector a/v switch would run all day via its multi-source pre-amp outs connected to multiple speaker pairs via the Niles. Not so, for the Pioneer in Zone 2. When I switched the MacIntosh to the ZONE 3 pre-amp outs, the system plays perfectly, with no shut-offs. Anyone know why this is?

Any help or advice about the repeated IOS remote app problem would be helpful. Is this problem wide-spread with Pioneer Air Play receivers. Also, the receiver won't play any podcasts, even though the web site lists hundreds you can connect to. Why is this? The internet radio stations play OK, though.

Originally Posted by maygit

Well, i ended up buying the SC-55 tonight from an online dealer. I'm really excited for it to come and a little nervous as well. The unit is brand new in box, but according to pioneers website since the company is "unauthorized" i have no warranty. Has anyone dealt w/ service from pioneer on "unauthorized" products and are they really strict about not covering it or are they lenient?

Originally Posted by Chris Blount

OK so here's the deal. Earlier in the thread I posted how bright the sound is from the SC-55. A few of you gave me some very good suggestions (switching to THX mode, etc) which somewhat worked but the sound was still a bit too bright.

The other day just for kicks I went into MCACC settings to see how MCACC equlized the speakers. Turns out that it basically lowered the volume on the lower frequencies (around 2K and below) and turned up the 5K band setting above all the others. I flattented out the equlizers for all speakers and Voila!, nice warm and full sound.

On all of the other Pioneer receivers I've had, I don't think I've ever seen the MCACC get it this wrong for my room. Really weird.

In any case, now my SC-55 sounds like it should and much better than my last Elite receiver.

Originally Posted by Chris Blount

OK so here's the deal. Earlier in the thread I posted how bright the sound is from the SC-55. A few of you gave me some very good suggestions (switching to THX mode, etc) which somewhat worked but the sound was still a bit too bright.

The other day just for kicks I went into MCACC settings to see how MCACC equlized the speakers. Turns out that it basically lowered the volume on the lower frequencies (around 2K and below) and turned up the 5K band setting above all the others. I flattented out the equlizers for all speakers and Voila!, nice warm and full sound.

On all of the other Pioneer receivers I've had, I don't think I've ever seen the MCACC get it this wrong for my room. Really weird.

In any case, now my SC-55 sounds like it should and much better than my last Elite receiver.

Originally Posted by erick granato

I really think this MCACC stuff is for the birds. Trust your ears, take some time, and it will work out, Grasshopper!

Originally Posted by hifi59


If you dl pocket rta on your device, play back pink noise on all 5 channels, you can manually adjust your receivers EQ to emulate my graph. This will be a very good approxiamation of a pro calibrated system. Much,much better than its built in auto cal system.

Originally Posted by ccotenj

no comment any part of post except the bolded part... i seriously doubt that jeff would agree with your conclusion...

i think that jeff would laugh himself silly at the thought of accomplishing the bolded part with an idevice microphone and a crude rta iapp...

Originally Posted by hifi59

All I'm suggesting is that you will get a very good approx. of pro cal. Not outstanding,not excellent,but very good. It could get to be excellent with some final tweaks,but for sure very good. Point being it will be much better than any auto cal that I've ever tried. Jeff doesn't have anything good about them either ,for the most part.

Originally Posted by WiWavelength


Is this with your Onkyo NR906? If so, the limiting factor is not the RTA. Rather, it is the seven band manual EQ built into your AVR. You are free to prefer whatever you like, but you are crazy if you think that a seven band EQ can even approach the level of correction that Audyssey offers. You have shown your low res Pocket RTA screenshot, but I would love to see a higher res waterfall plot of your system in your room. The amplitude vs frequency and time performance may not be nearly as good as you believe it to be.

Furthermore, not to impugn Jeff Meier, but he has a vested interest in manual calibration, as auto EQ programs compete against his services.

AJ

Originally Posted by DEF66

Finally have the bugs worked out with my icontrol 2 and noticed that my zone 2 keeps shutting down. I had main zone and zone 2 working at the same time and about like clockwork zone 2 would shut off and I would have to turn it back on. I also operated zone 2 independently and it still shut off. I was wondering if there was some selection on the set up that I need to adjust. I was listening to internet radio I didnt try another audio source.

Originally Posted by DEF66

Finally have the bugs worked out with my icontrol 2 and noticed that my zone 2 keeps shutting down. I had main zone and zone 2 working at the same time and about like clockwork zone 2 would shut off and I would have to turn it back on. I also operated zone 2 independently and it still shut off. I was wondering if there was some selection on the set up that I need to adjust. I was listening to internet radio I didnt try another audio source.

Originally Posted by Solo_NZ

I double checked in the menu and Zone 2 auto shut down is off (This turns it off automatically if no signal is received) but mine shuts down mid song like yours but had to check as that was the only thing I could think of in the menu that would cause this problem.

Originally Posted by purdyd

Actually, zone 2 shuts down automatically even if it receives a signal, unless you turn auto shutdown for it off

Originally Posted by davideyes

This is my first post to this forum, which I've found to be a real education. I just got an SC-57 on the advise of a local HT store as having the best change of handling the Martin Logan reQuest hybrid electrostats I inherited from my dad, for under $2K. A storm a month ago fried my entire AV system & the refrigerator (but the speakers survived), despite a MonsterPower HTS5000 protector. I was previously using a Pioneer VSX816K, and sending the pre-amp out to my father's Krell 250 wpc amp which bi-amped the speakers. This was capable of being painfully loud without trouble (and the Krell kept the room warm in the winter).

When I got the SC-57 I set it up as "7.2 channel surround system & Front Bi-amping," as per page 18 in the manual. The center and surround speakers are small old book-shelfs (college tuition comes first). With all channels running (but no subwoofer) after the MCACC, I tried a Star Wars DVD (Samsung BDD5500 player) and was woefully disappointed in the limited volume. When I had the volume over -10dB, the receiver would shut down at loud passages (which weren't so loud), which I presume is a self-preservation behavior. This problem applied to 2 other Star Wars DVDs and I was ready to take the unit back and get the cheaper SC-55 plus an outboard 2ch amp (I'd like to stay within the insurance company's reimbursement).

The next day on a whim I tried the Avatar BD, and the SC-57 rattled the floor and my gonads! I'd like to hear an explanation for this phenomenon; is it the DVDs, the blue-ray disc player, or the receiver, responsible for this behavior? For the meantime, I've set the SC-57 to limit the volume to -10dB to avoid the issue as I don't know if there's any chance of this damaging the speakers when the SC-57 shuts down.

I'd also like advise on whether I just have to buckle down and get an outboard 2ch amp to drive the speakers. Alternatively, is the problem one of some setting or incompatibility between components (I can get a Pioneer BD player if need be at your advise) such that I can keep the SC-57? I desperately want to keep using the Martin Logans, both for their wonderful sound stage and as they are a fond reminder of my dad for the entire family.