The "Official" Pioneer Elite SC-55/SC-57 Owners Thread - Page 105

Originally Posted by purdyd

Really? Are you saying mcacc completely fabricates the reverb after curve?

I doubt that

Originally Posted by ccotenj


unless it re-measures AFTER it has made the adjustments (i don't remember, it's been a LONG time since i played with reverb), it can only be a "predicted" curve...

also don't ignore the smoothing comment...

Originally Posted by ccotenj

i would start with 80, and unless proven by measurements to be mo' bettah at 50, stay at 80... i would NOT do this strictly by ear, as you are already predisposed to "want" a certain outcome... i would take a somewhat educated guess that 80 will be better, simply based on years of 'sperience setting up systems (not to mention having seen heaven knows how many graphs from others)...

as noted earlier... you need to think of your system as a whole, not as a
"am i getting the most out of one piece of it"...

for instance, my mains have measured (not spec'd) in room response well into the 30's... they are crossed at 80, for two very big reasons...

- crossing them there allows me to work with the two dominant modes in my room with the subs... with the combination of positioning/eq (primarily eq, including other tweaks), i make those modes "go away" in the end result... solving this issue can't be done by "ear", at least not by me, since in this region, peaks are very evident to my ears, but dips/nulls aren't... i am not alone in that, judging by ancdotal reports from many who report "i lost my bass when i eq'd my sub"... no, the user didn't "lose their bass", they lost the mountainous response curve, and likely eliminated a monster peak that they were identifying as "good strong bass"...

- regardless of the measured response (and if by some miracle the mains placement works well with the room modes, which virtually never happens), the mains cannot even dream of producing that 40-80hz octave with the authority that the subwoofers do... also, relieving the mains of producing that octave will allow them to perform "better"...

there's more, but those two reasons alone speak favorably of edging your xover points as high as they will go* vs. as low as they will go...

subwoofers have one job, and that's to produce 2 octaves (or in the case of some of us, 3 and a bit more )... let them do it...

* assuming no localization, etc. and when it comes to localization, keep in mind that many times when people loclaize their sub, it's because of outside influences (rattles, etc.), not because of the frequencies coming from the sub...

Originally Posted by dscottj

Any further word on a new firmware update?

Originally Posted by rswelter


is this for real?

Originally Posted by amp74

anyone know why id get a "file format error" message when trying to load any kind of podcast from the internet radio menus?

Originally Posted by Stefan_AVS

I can't update because the option Firmware update is disable.
I tried many times to reset the avr following these steps:
- unplug all the cables (power, hdmi, network and the Bluetooth device)
- wait a few minutes to empty the capacitors
- plug only the power cable
- reset the avr
- turn off the avr
- plug the TV cable
- turn on the avr
- check the option Network Information
Even if there is no network connection, when I check the option Network Setup it displays a dialog box with the message Network Setup. Applying settings. and the display is frozen.
When the option Network Information is disable, the option Firmware update is also disable.
When the receiver is not able to detect the network, it also is not able to connect with an iPad via Bluetooth (AS-BT200). On the avr display it shows Starting. When it shows Starting nothing works.

Originally Posted by Edllguy

Found this for our SC-55/57's from the Pioneer website:

CHANGE HISTORY

MODELS: SC-57/UXJCB, SC-55/UXJCB, SC-1526-K/CUXJ

Version : 1-203-086-703-069

- Enhances connectivity when using an HDMI extender
- Performance improvements

For me this is one of the major reasons for upgrading my receiver to the SC-57. The main firmware can now be finally upgraded at home. I was sick and tired of disconnecting everything from my VSX-94TXH, hauling it to an authorized service centre, waiting for 2 weeks, then hauling it back and reconnecting it. I did this 3 times and I really got fed up. One time they even did not have the latest firmware with them and I traveled a long way for nothing.

Thank goodness that the SC-57 came along to meet my home theater needs.

Also, sure it would be nice to have an SC-68, however, the only thing that would have interested me would be the 4K2K passthrough feature but my fellow forum members here stated not to worry because:

1- there is no 4K2K content yet and 2 - all I would need is a dual HDMI 4K2K blu-ray player and go directly to the tv for the video and directly to receiver for audio

plus

3 - the SC-68 cost a lot more for features that I will not be using and 4 - received my SC-57 35% off Canadian MSRP on boxing day.

Thank you Pioneer

Originally Posted by Stefan_AVS

I can’t update because the option “Firmware update” is disable.
I tried many times to reset the avr following these steps:
- unplug all the cables (power, hdmi, network and the Bluetooth device)
- wait a few minutes to empty the capacitors
- plug only the power cable
- reset the avr
- turn off the avr
- plug the TV cable
- turn on the avr
- check the option “Network Information”
Even if there is no network connection, when I check the option “Network Setup” it displays a dialog box with the message “Network Setup. Applying settings.” and the display is frozen.
When the option “Network Information” is disable, the option “Firmware update” is also disable.
When the receiver is not able to detect the network, it also is not able to connect with an iPad via Bluetooth (AS-BT200). On the avr display it shows “Starting”. When it shows “Starting” nothing works.

Originally Posted by Slackjaw747

^^^

Trying to update over the Internet is pointless anyway. I just now updated my firmware via the flash drive. When I selected "Update over Internet", it said I already had the latest version. Pfft...

Originally Posted by jimjr

When you say that you "reset the avr," exactly what do you mean by that? Are you resetting back to factory defaults? If not, try that. The procedure is on page 61 of the manual and it requires holding down the "enter" key on the front panel while pressing the "on" button. That resets everything to factory defaults.

Although I'm not sure it will make any difference, you might also consider rebooting your router, reserving a specific IP address assigned to the AVR's MAC address at the router level, or both these things. Once you've cleared the error you might also think about assigning the AVR a static IP address. Everything you've done so far is limited to the AVR. You might try looking for the culprit elsewhere in the network.

Originally Posted by purdyd


Performance improvements is sort of vague

Originally Posted by purdyd

Well I did update and it didn't blow up or reset any settings

Not sure what performance upgrades have been implemented

I am hoping for a little more stable network connection

Originally Posted by Vallhall

Hi

Have a LX85(SC57) to play with and have a some question.

Then i enable the PCLS the volume lowers, and i cant get my android phone to stream to the amp. This was not problem with the Onkyo 1009.

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by Vallhall

Have to bump this

So can anyone explain to me why i cant stream from my droid phone to the pioneer?. The Pioneers lan connection is cabled.I use Pioneers icontrol app from my droid phone

Plz help me before i send it back again

Version : 1-203-086-703-069

- Enhances connectivity when using an HDMI extender
- Performance improvements

Originally Posted by jimjr

I'm not sure you can stream a droid to the SC-57 without a Bluetooth adapter. Airplay works only with Apple products. I can stream a Blackberry to the SC-57 via Bluetooth. And iControlAV is not a media streaming app.

There might be a way to get the droid to appear on your network as a windows media server, and then you could see it from the HMG menu, but it's doubtful and in any event I don't know how to do it.

EDIT: I take that back. I read an article on CNET about streaming to a Pioneer receiver from an Android device using the "DLNA-friendly Skifta app" and accessing the droid from the HMG menu. I don't have a droid so I can't test it but you might want to check it out.

Originally Posted by jimjr


I'm not sure you can stream a droid to the SC-57 without a Bluetooth adapter. Airplay works only with Apple products. I can stream a Blackberry to the SC-57 via Bluetooth. And iControlAV is not a media streaming app.

There might be a way to get the droid to appear on your network as a windows media server, and then you could see it from the HMG menu, but it's doubtful and in any event I don't know how to do it.

EDIT: I take that back. I read an article on CNET about streaming to a Pioneer receiver from an Android device using the "DLNA-friendly Skifta app" and accessing the droid from the HMG menu. I don't have a droid so I can't test it but you might want to check it out.

Originally Posted by Vallhall

Many many thanks, i will look into that.

On the Onkyo you could stream both from PC and droid phones with Onkyo android app to the receiver...much more userfriendly than Pioneer

Originally Posted by clemdog

I have the 55 and have been trying to hook up a second pair of speakers to essentially just play the same audio as in the main listening room but in another room too.
Seems this should be relatively straight forward but I've not been able to get the second pair to work.
The manual is not much help here with all it's talk of zones and B speakers.
I've hooked up the second pair of speakers per the instructions but no sound to the second set...

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Joost80

A european review of the Sc57 (LX85).

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news...le.asp?a=10421

Big thumbs up.