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post #871 of 3861
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I'm sorry I missed some questions over the last week... been crazy at work.

Just want to note that I am going to be obtaining another AVR for my theater in order to conduct some work/business related listening in my theater, for which I specifically need some things the 57 doesn't offer...

As such, my Pioneer 57 is going up for sale...

I just want to make sure that it will be missed, and at this point it really is one of the finest pieces of gear I've had in my room.. it will be missed, and for those on the fence, it is at the top of my list as far as AVR's go.. it leaving my possession is in no way any kind commentary on this amazing piece of gear..

I will make sure to stay on top of the posts at the top of the thread, and will still actively participate here as much as time allows.

This should be a poll: What will FilmMixer get next

My guess is an 80.3...

Regardless, whatever he picks, the owners are going to get some great info!
post #872 of 3861
I'm just curious what the 57 doesn't specifically do...

(I think we all realize that FilmMixer might just not have "normal" AVR needs, but that doesn't stop me from wondering... )
post #873 of 3861
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Originally Posted by bakerzdosen View Post

I'm just curious what the 57 doesn't specifically do...

(I think we all realize that FilmMixer might just not have "normal" AVR needs, but that doesn't stop me from wondering... )

The first things that come to mind are 11.2 and dual sub eq (or any sub eq for that matter).

Note, this is not taking shots at the 57, just trying to answer the question.
post #874 of 3861
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Originally Posted by shine5555 View Post

Thank You... I just ordered that one. I hope it is plug and play. I have decided to run a cable to the rack, so I should be able to plug this to my router and then the switch to my SC55, PS3, Dish 722, Samsung PN8000, and xbox360. I have all ways heard that hard wire is better, so, I might as well do them all

You have heard correct about going wired, but I hope that the 5 port is enough ports for you, it uses 1 of the 5 ports as an uplink port from the router so you can only plug 4 devices into it. They also have an 8 port version of the same one if needed. It costs $3 more but doesn't have the $10 rebate going on. Alternately you could just leave your device that you need the internet the least unplugged and swap one of the cables when you need it. Probably have to power the switch down when you do this so it will link to the new MAC address of whatever you swap in and out.

I would also recommend using cat6 (or cat 7 which will support 10Gbs in the future, but there is a good chance that the standard may be going to fibre since the equipment to transfer at 10Gbs is much cheaper using fibre so may not be worth bothering with cat 7 unless it is not much more) cables from newegg as well. Rosewell has some reasonable cables there and I have never had a faulty one in the 20 or so I have used.

I just received my asus switch plugged it in and was up and running in about 1 min. Make sure you unplug your router to reset it when you plug the switch into the cable. I already had 2 cat 6 cables running through my attic to the living room, one to my PS3 and one to my Mede8or MED500X2. I unplugged the one from my 500x2 and plugged it into the port 1 on the new switch and then plugged a new cable from the switch port 2 to my 500X2. Now i have 3 extra ports available for when my SC-55 gets here and for when I get a new TV that has ethernet which i'm sure my next one will. The port 1 is also called the VIP port and from what I read online, it allows for 80% faster speed in that one port if you have a device that needs priority. I decided to use it as my uplink port (for the cable running out there from the router) since I don't think I need any particular device to get special priority. Actually, I can't see where I will be using the ps3 while i am watching a movie on the 500x2, or something on the avr or tv at the same time, it will pretty much be used one at a time. I believe if you wanted to use the VIP port for some particular device, any of the other ports can be an uplink port from the router, but port 1 will always get priority up to 80% of the bandwidth if needed.

So far I just plugged it in and it worked perfectly. I streamed a blu-ray avatar collectors edition with DTS-HD audio and it streamed perfectly! This has been my Achilles heel since I always had problems streaming this from my samba network share until I got the good gigabit router. At least I know it seems to be allowing full speed through the switch since the audio didn't drop and the video didn't get jerky like it will if it's not getting the data fast enough.

If you guys are in need of an excellent dual band n gigabit router, look at the Asus RT-N65U http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...62&Tpk=rt-n56u . It is the best router I have owned and I have went though quite a few of them. It was rated very high on smallnetbulder.com for wireless and the fastest they have ever tested for gigabit wired routing. Highly recommended.
post #875 of 3861
Hi, I'm a newbie. I am already playing my cd collecion from my NAS to WINAMP on my pc and love it. I am using CatRaxx to organize the single and multirecord sets; I hit F2 and they pop up in WINAMP and play beautifully. I just bought the SC-57 and I am wondering how to use the sc-57 to get this music to play on my audio system in the living room without losing the CatRaxx and WINAMP functionality. I doubt the SC-57 has collection software on it so I will still need CatRaxx. The pc is Windows 7 64 bit. I suppose the sc-57 won't have the interface of CatRaxx in organizing my 700 flac files so I may need to settle with using the pc to select the albums to play. Can someone give me some tips to set up the home media gallery to achieve my dream?
post #876 of 3861
I have been reading through the manual for the SC-55 and have a few questions about the settings. I have attached a pic of my living room 5.1 setup. All the speaker model numbers are in the pic and they are all onyx rockets. The only thing different from the pic is the rear channel speakers are not what they say in the pic but rather onyx rockets OD100 speakers. They are actually some decent outdoor speakers about 1' tall and 8" wide with a mid and a tweeter in them. My subwoofer is a SVS PB-12 Ultra.
Some places say that I should set my front speakers to small since I have a subwoofer, but these front speakers are actually great for listening to 2 channel music as they have a 8" powered sub built in to them firing out of the sides at the bottom (for people who don't know how the high end onyx rockets floor speakers were designed) so i would think that I would leave these on large, as well as the massive center channel. Here is a link to a site that shows what I have as far as front and center goes including their specifications, except for my RS1000 fronts are about a foot taller than the 750's and have the 8" sub on the sides firing out. I believe I bought all of these back in early 2005 but they are still sounding great and have never had a problem out of any of them. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...rs-8-2003.html

So would I pick 5.1ch +zone 2+3 even though I am not hooking up any more speakers to the other zones or is there a setting to say just 5.1ch with no other zones on? I didn't see it in the manual. I just want to run it as 5.1 so should I set the front and center to large and the rear to small and set the subwoofer to THX? One thing also, I do not usually run the 10"sub in the front speakers when I am watching surround movies so when I do the calibration for the room correction I should just leave the sub turned off? Or do you think it would sound better with them on all the time even though I do have the massive svs sub? I honestly never notice a difference when I am using the PB-12 ultra if the 8" subs are turned on or off, that is why I decided to only use them when i want 2 channel music without the large sub playing when listening to certain music.

I hope this was not too long winded and confusing and I appreciate all of your input.
LL
post #877 of 3861
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Originally Posted by ant master View Post

Hi, I'm a newbie. I am already playing my cd collecion from my NAS to WINAMP on my pc and love it. I am using CatRaxx to organize the single and multirecord sets; I hit F2 and they pop up in WINAMP and play beautifully. I just bought the SC-57 and I am wondering how to use the sc-57 to get this music to play on my audio system in the living room without losing the CatRaxx and WINAMP functionality. I doubt the SC-57 has collection software on it so I will still need CatRaxx. The pc is Windows 7 64 bit. I suppose the sc-57 won't have the interface of CatRaxx in organizing my 700 flac files so I may need to settle with using the pc to select the albums to play. Can someone give me some tips to set up the home media gallery to achieve my dream?

Is this the best way to go? Will the SHOUTcast DSP Plug-In for Winamp stream to the SC-57?
post #878 of 3861
Has anyone had a chance to really compare the speaker terminals between both models?
I always felt that the ones on my SC-07 are pretty average to the point that I'm afraid that one day one of them will break.
post #879 of 3861
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Originally Posted by bfreedma View Post

The first things that come to mind are 11.2 and dual sub eq (or any sub eq for that matter).

Note, this is not taking shots at the 57, just trying to answer the question.

Well I got my SC-57 last night ,The only HDMI inputs that work are
BD-DVD-DVR/BDR

HDMI 1-2-3-4 VIDEO do not function I tried 2 sources blu ray and cable box
both sources work fine on the inuts

Any Ideas ?

And whats up with the loose fitting power cord

Otherwise I did watch a movie last night just to see if I even want this model and my answer is yes
I just want one that works
post #880 of 3861
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post


Well I got my SC-57 last night ,The only HDMI inputs that work are
BD-DVD-DVR/BDR

HDMI 1-2-3-4 VIDEO do not function I tried 2 sources blu ray and cable box
both sources work fine on the inuts

Any Ideas ?

And whats up with the loose fitting power cord

Otherwise I did watch a movie last night just to see if I even want this model and my answer is yes
I just want one that works

I'd check input setup page 34 of the manual
post #881 of 3861
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Originally Posted by purdyd View Post

I'd check input setup page 34 of the manual

HDMI 1 @ HDMI 1 INPUT
HDMI 2 @ HDMI 2 INPUT
HDMI 3 @ HDMI 3 INPUT

Really nothing to change
post #882 of 3861
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Originally Posted by a1usedcomp View Post


HDMI 1 @ HDMI 1 INPUT
HDMI 2 @ HDMI 2 INPUT
HDMI 3 @ HDMI 3 INPUT

Really nothing to change

Hdmi 3 is the front panel input by default
Hdmi 4 is video

Hdmi 1 & 2 should work unless they got assigned 2 something else
post #883 of 3861
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Originally Posted by purdyd View Post

Hdmi 3 is the front panel input by default
Hdmi 4 is video

Hdmi 1 & 2 should work unless they got assigned 2 something else

They dont work and nothing else is using HDMI 1 & 2 and even HDMI 3 should work and it dont .

Place of purchase is sending me a new unit .
post #884 of 3861
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Originally Posted by bakerzdosen View Post

I'm just curious what the 57 doesn't specifically do...

(I think we all realize that FilmMixer might just not have "normal" AVR needs, but that doesn't stop me from wondering... )

overlain osd (volume, source, etc). biggest shortfall of pioneers...full stop.
post #885 of 3861
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

overlain osd (volume, source, etc). biggest shortfall of pioneers...full stop.

Is pioneer a bad choice for a avr ? Is there a better choice for around the cost of the SC-57

I had a Integra 50.2 the menu was alot simpler , but to be honest the SC-57 made a big diffrence in sound
or would the SC-37 be a better choice ?

Also I will be sending the SC-57 back on Monday they offerd to send me another one but Im going hold off

Thinking about a SC-37
post #886 of 3861
I haven't had any issues at all with my NIB SC-37, but I haven't tried every jack in this AVR.
post #887 of 3861
Did you choose the hdmi inputs by number for each input on the main setup screen?
post #888 of 3861
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Originally Posted by SSaull View Post

Did you choose the hdmi inputs by number for each input on the main setup screen?

Again you cannot change Hdmi 1-2-3 and no there not
asigned to another input .

I got a unit with problems

I think Im going to go to a SC-37
post #889 of 3861
Looking at the SC-55/57 or Yamaha 2010/3010. I currently have a Yamaha AVR with a 5.1 set up but have also use Yamaha's "presence speakers" (which I happen to like having) Are Pioneer's "Front Height" speakers the same thing? Can I do a 5.1 plus Front Height with the SC-55/57?

Thanks!
bwb
post #890 of 3861
guys,

i had a question for Pioneer avr owners and also for people who have heard the previous generations of Pioneer vs. the SC 55.

I had always read that the Pioneer have a "Bright sound". But recently i demoed the LX 75 with B&W CM series speakers and didn't find it to be bright.

This review says that the Pioneer SC 57 sounds Warm.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/p...eceiver-page-2

Has the Pioneer Sound become more towards Warm with the newer Class D3 amps ?

Regards,

Rana
post #891 of 3861
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Originally Posted by rana_kirti View Post

guys,

i had a question for Pioneer avr owners and also for people who have heard the previous generations of Pioneer vs. the SC 55.

I had always read that the Pioneer have a "Bright sound". But recently i demoed the LX 75 with B&W CM series speakers and didn't find it to be bright.

This review says that the Pioneer SC 57 sounds Warm.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/p...eceiver-page-2

Has the Pioneer Sound become more towards Warm with the newer Class D3 amps ?

Regards,

Rana

I have the SC55 with CM1's, and do not find the sound bright at all. The sound appears laid back to me
post #892 of 3861
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

overlain osd (volume, source, etc). biggest shortfall of pioneers...full stop.

I have Full HDMI control on, with my Samsung PN638000, and I get OSD, for the volume. Just an FYI
post #893 of 3861
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by shine5555 View Post

I have Full HDMI control on, with my Samsung PN638000, and I get OSD, for the volume. Just an FYI

That is the TV creating the OSD volume (which is relatively useless as it is a absolute 0-100 scale..)

The Pioneer SC series does not have OSD for volume or any other information.
post #894 of 3861
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

That is the TV creating the OSD volume (which is relatively useless as it is a absolute 0-100 scale..)

The Pioneer SC series does not have OSD for volume or any other information.

OK Thanks, I just knew that it said "Receiver" and the volume, so I had "Assumed" it was from the sc55
post #895 of 3861
Shine,
Did you get the 5 port switch yet? Mine has been working perfectly. Were you able to make it work out since it seemed like you had 1 too many devices or did you send it back for an 8 port?
post #896 of 3861
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Originally Posted by Swamibob View Post

Shine,
Did you get the 5 port switch yet? Mine has been working perfectly. Were you able to make it work out since it seemed like you had 1 too many devices or did you send it back for an 8 port?

It should arrive in the mail today... I had all ready ordered the 5 port, before I realized I need the 8 port. I will just try the 5 port out for now, and leave one thing as wifi. I would like to hard wire the TV, as I stream Hulu and Netflix, through the TV, but not sure I can get the wire through the wall
post #897 of 3861
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Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post

Has anyone had a chance to really compare the speaker terminals between both models?
I always felt that the ones on my SC-07 are pretty average to the point that I'm afraid that one day one of them will break.

I'm concerned with the quality of the speaker terminals as well; Any owner care to comment on how solid they are?
post #898 of 3861
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Originally Posted by rickcfer View Post

I'm concerned with the quality of the speaker terminals as well; Any owner care to comment on how solid they are?

They aren't great; they are plastic. However, they work, and I have not feared mine to break.
post #899 of 3861
had a question about bi-amping and bi-wiring the sc-57

im using m&k s-5000 speakers for the front and center channels, which have single binding posts in back. these are 4ohm speakers that like 400watts RMS.

im only using two surround channels, so my current setup is 5.1

is it possible for me to set the receiver to the 5.1 bi-amped front/center option and connect the two sets of speaker outputs from the receiver to the single input on the back of my speakers?

and is there an advantage to doing so?
post #900 of 3861
hey: i know this is gonna sound stupid...but i'm into function as well as performance. i've got a 7 year old vsx 55txi. it's been great. only thing that drives me crazy is when you mute the unit, you can't use "volume up" to unmute it... you must hit the mute button again. seems like even a $200 tv has the ability to "unmute" with either (or all) volume up, down, or re-hitting the mute button (my preference is only using the mute button again or the volume up button). Probably a silly inquiry for most of you, but i actually used to thoroughly evaluate a tv's remote before buying (but now they hide them all in the back of the store). i'm probably still pissed that i had an otherwise great sony tv for years that had the mute button in the upper corner of the remote with the volume and channel buttons on the bottom...drove me crazy![/size]
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