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post #1051 of 1119
I was surprised to see you can't really email them.
post #1052 of 1119
Yes, they do have a somewhat "eccentric" support policy! i.e. No formal support. But they are very active on their own forums and either they or their experIenced users are mostly fast at resolving significant issues.
post #1053 of 1119
Eccentric? That's about as nice a thing as anyone's ever said about JRiver. It sounds almost like "distinguished". Thanks!

Here's a little about our support..
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=43159.0
post #1054 of 1119
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post #1055 of 1119
Well at least support didn't tell me to go to Facebook, but honestly you ought to be able to email them IMO. Once I get it installed I'll probably join the forum, what's one more username and password I have a gazillion of them now biggrin.gif I just want to make sure that high res is supported from places like HD Tracks?
post #1056 of 1119
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Well at least support didn't tell me to go to Facebook, but honestly you ought to be able to email them IMO. Once I get it installed I'll probably join the forum, what's one more username and password I have a gazillion of them now biggrin.gif I just want to make sure that high res is supported from places like HD Tracks?

Yes JRiver supports high Rez and I download music from HD Tracks and play it through JRiver.
post #1057 of 1119
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Well at least support didn't tell me to go to Facebook, but honestly you ought to be able to email them IMO. Once I get it installed I'll probably join the forum, what's one more username and password I have a gazillion of them now biggrin.gif I just want to make sure that high res is supported from places like HD Tracks?

You aren't using Lastpass?

I recommend reading some of the getting started stuff on the wiki if you have the time before installing.
post #1058 of 1119
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Originally Posted by rec head View Post

You aren't using Lastpass?



Hi, what's Lastpass?



Edit;
I see what it is, I prefer to just manage them myself.
Edited by comfynumb - 12/8/13 at 3:11pm
post #1059 of 1119
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hi guys, I'm thinking about buying JRiver for my laptop. Will JRiver manage all my downloads? In other words can I put HD Tracks and iTunes downloads into it or will they automatically import?

Yes iTunes Download all supported. If they are DRM protected, iTunes and QuickTime will need to be installed on the computer too. Also the HD tracks situation: there is actually an HD tracks download plug-in for MC so I am very sure HD tracks downloads are supported
post #1060 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

Yes iTunes Download all supported. If they are DRM protected, iTunes and QuickTime will need to be installed on the computer too. Also the HD tracks situation: there is actually an HD tracks download plug-in for MC so I am very sure HD tracks downloads are supported



Hi, exactly what I wanted to know thanks!
post #1061 of 1119
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hi, exactly what I wanted to know thanks!

http://jriver.com/hdtracks.html
post #1062 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

http://jriver.com/hdtracks.html



Oh I missed that and that's all I needed to confirm my purchase. I know much has been made about high res not being audible but someone (a well known name in the audio world) posted in a thread here recently that there is a little more to high res than just the sample rate. I'm not saying iTunes and others sound bad but I've found HD Tracks to be very comparable with good CD quality. Thanks for the link smile.gif
post #1063 of 1119
Hi,

I am going to be building a new htpc after xmas based around intel NUC on a windows 8.1 OS.

I am currently trying to decide between xbmc and Jriver (I use media protal on my current htpc). I have played with xbmc before and I like many of its features. However I unsderstand Jriver has better video/audio quality playback at the expense of the GUI. (things like madvr support)

I am struggeling to find any good demo videos of jriver, so I am just wondering how clunky is it? (I dont mind a painful setup procedure so long as day to day it runs perfectly) What are the negatives to Jriver?


Thanks in advance
post #1064 of 1119
Here are some videos
http://www.screencast.com/t/6RPtNbbKN4
http://www.screencast.com/t/52KgBYF34vSD

I haven't seen them but it might help. I don't find JRiver MC clunky. The theater view is easy to use. In standard view there is a learning curve because it is so powerful. Once you get the basics you are pretty good. They are both free or free to try and neither requires you to install codec packs so you can try both and see what works.
post #1065 of 1119
AVS member BrolicBeast has a nice YouTube overview of JRiver:
post #1066 of 1119
Awesome videos, thanks for those. Looks a very impressive MC. Very tempted to use this instead of xbmc.

Anyone else who has used both extensively got any insight?
post #1067 of 1119
I haven't used both but I think Jriver is fantastic. I am really impressed how Jriver and TVDB work together to organize your movie, mini-series and TV show library.
Here is that site
http://thetvdb.com/
As long as your series is in there, and you name it correctly, it will show up in Jriver for you. It is really cool.
post #1068 of 1119
So the guy in the Youtube video buys Blu rays so he can view via the digital copy eek.gif
post #1069 of 1119
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

So the guy in the Youtube video buys Blu rays so he can view via the digital copy eek.gif
I pretty much stopped watching at that point biggrin.gif. Maybe he didn't want to go on record showing that he's "illegally" ripping his Blurays and have lawyers come knocking at his door.
post #1070 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Awesome videos, thanks for those. Looks a very impressive MC. Very tempted to use this instead of xbmc.

Anyone else who has used both extensively got any insight?

I have not used XBMC extensively but I have installed more than once. I really can't remember what I didn't like about it. It just wasn't for me. I will say that if you are trying to keep the budget low (not pay for Windows) XBMC-untu or whatever it's called is a great option. I installed it on my brother's old PC to make it him an HTPC and it was pretty easy to do and works nicely.
post #1071 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Awesome videos, thanks for those. Looks a very impressive MC. Very tempted to use this instead of xbmc.

Anyone else who has used both extensively got any insight?

JRiver works great right out of the box, and is easy to adjust for the highest possible PQ (if your hardware can handle it). Where it takes considerable time to configure xbmc to match the output quality of JRiver. People unanimously consider xbmc a nicer looking product, but JRiver the better performing.

But like other's have suggested, try out the demo and see if it works for you.

Initially, importing all my media files was a slow process, but I think that's the case with any MC you use. But after that initial process, the application is very responsive.
post #1072 of 1119
I'm still grinding my way through this thread so I'm sorry if this is obvious or been asked before. How much support does JRiver provide when ripping audio discs? Does it confirm via AccurateRip and or do FLAC conversions? Will I need dBpoweramp as well? I have EAC of course.

All my movies are .mkv, so that side is not an issue.
post #1073 of 1119
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Originally Posted by A9X-308 View Post

I'm still grinding my way through this thread so I'm sorry if this is obvious or been asked before. How much support does JRiver provide when ripping audio discs? Does it confirm via AccurateRip and or do FLAC conversions? Will I need dBpoweramp as well? I have EAC of course.
They don't use AccurateRip, but do use Secure Ripping and have a wide range of format support.
I still use dBpoweramp because it's what I'm used to, and because it does use AccurateRip.
post #1074 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Awesome videos, thanks for those. Looks a very impressive MC. Very tempted to use this instead of xbmc.

Anyone else who has used both extensively got any insight?
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Hi,

I am going to be building a new htpc after xmas based around intel NUC on a windows 8.1 OS.

I am currently trying to decide between xbmc and Jriver (I use media protal on my current htpc). I have played with xbmc before and I like many of its features. However I unsderstand Jriver has better video/audio quality playback at the expense of the GUI. (things like madvr support)

I am struggeling to find any good demo videos of jriver, so I am just wondering how clunky is it? (I dont mind a painful setup procedure so long as day to day it runs perfectly) What are the negatives to Jriver?


Thanks in advance

Great question. If I had to choose between the two, I would pick both!

I use J River for all my music. IMHO, it is the hands down best choice for audio files. Easy to customize, plays just about any file you throw at it. Sounds superb.
It can do video, too". But J River is just ok on video.

I will give an example. Let's say you have a concert DVD ripped to your hard disc. Full rip, jriver plays it without a hitch, right? Just those annoying FBI warnings. BUT if it needs to be deinteraced, get ready for an education in external video rendering. When a video is playing on a big screen, try changing audio streams. Lettering so small you have to get up to read it.
I love J River, and if it were half as good at video as it is at audio, there would be no need for XBMC. But for now, XBMC is far superior.
post #1075 of 1119
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post


Great question. If I had to choose between the two, I would pick both!

I use J River for all my music. IMHO, it is the hands down best choice for audio files. Easy to customize, plays just about any file you throw at it. Sounds superb.
It can do video, too". But J River is just ok on video.

I will give an example. Let's say you have a concert DVD ripped to your hard disc. Full rip, jriver plays it without a hitch, right? Just those annoying FBI warnings. BUT if it needs to be deinteraced, get ready for an education in external video rendering. When a video is playing on a big screen, try changing audio streams. Lettering so small you have to get up to read it.
I love J River, and if it were half as good at video as it is at audio, there would be no need for XBMC. But for now, XBMC is far superior.

You know that in jriver there is a 10' interface in theater view to change things like soundtrack, subtiles, chapters, etc...
post #1076 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Apgood View Post

You know that in jriver there is a 10' interface in theater view to change things like soundtrack, subtiles, chapters, etc...
And you can control it with a remote.
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/OSD
post #1077 of 1119
Aware of the theater view, my screen is in fact 10 feet. Know the remote thing too.

Do yourself a favor. Play a video in JRMC, sit 10 feet away and change audio tracks.

Do the same in XBMC. You'll see my point.
post #1078 of 1119
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

Aware of the theater view, my screen is in fact 10 feet. Know the remote thing too.

Do yourself a favor. Play a video in JRMC, sit 10 feet away and change audio tracks.

Do the same in XBMC. You'll see my point.

I only use theater view and have no problems seeing the text on 60" TV from 3 meters (about 9.8 feet) away. Also change subtitles and language tracks all the time as watch a lot of foreign language films, but I do use a small wireless media keyboard/remote which is much easier since my htpc isn't line of sight.

Having used both xbmc and jriver I find the osd font size about the same and once I got used to it now prefer using just the up key to get to the osd and scrolling through the options.

Only thing I really miss from xbmc is the subtitle addon to download subtitles on the fly.
post #1079 of 1119
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

Aware of the theater view, my screen is in fact 10 feet. Know the remote thing too.

Do yourself a favor. Play a video in JRMC, sit 10 feet away and change audio tracks.

Do the same in XBMC. You'll see my point.
It's been quite a while since I gave XBMC a shot, so I installed it and played around with it a bit. I quite honestly don't see what you're getting at for changing audio tracks. The UI for it in XBMC may look a bit slicker, but IMO they both work just fine for a 10 foot user interface.
post #1080 of 1119
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

Aware of the theater view, my screen is in fact 10 feet. Know the remote thing too.

Do yourself a favor. Play a video in JRMC, sit 10 feet away and change audio tracks.

Do the same in XBMC. You'll see my point.

I think you're behind the times, or don't know of a feature that's been in MC since at least version 16 iirc. Just press the down arrow on a keyboard, or down on a remote while a movie is playing. The OSD comes in, and one of the options is the ability to change audio streams using only the directional keys. I think you're using the right-click method, which is there in addition to the on-screen display.
Edited by fitbrit - 12/16/13 at 8:40am
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