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post #61 of 950
8/9/11 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

Go to Options and examine the Theater view settings. Start with low settings and hardware acceleration and see if that works. Do you have the latest drivers from nVidia? Often, the theater view issues are with graphics card drivers or the settings. It should work just fine with maximum settings in your case, though, at least with hardware acceleration.

Also, check your anti-virus settings too.

I've found J. River Media Center to be extremely stable, provided my PC was in good shape to begin with. When I had an iffy PC, it would crash more often. Starting with a cleanly installed OS, I've had very few issues at all.

Oh well, I uninstalled j river. Updated my display driver. Tried what you said and same error. I'm over it.
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post #62 of 950
8/9/11 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Oh well, I uninstalled j river. Updated my display driver. Tried what you said and same error. I'm over it.

Sorry, I couldn't be of more help. At least you had an excuse to upgrade your video card drivers. Did you ask the real experts at the J. River forums for help?
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post #63 of 950
8/9/11 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by markabuckley View Post

on trial of JRMC at moment - but already decided to buy it

as an audio processor - best I've tried so far - so many options and features its great.

I'm now using it with multichannel FLAC into my Pioneer 59TXi - the best bit being that JRMC allows me to add 10dB to the LFE (LFE not subwoofer which is the key as most don't differentiate) as the Pioneer doesn't add the 10dB to the LFE

also the Parametric Equalizer is great - so I can remove the 9dB narrow peak I have at 41hz

JRMC also allows me - at a higher quality to re-sample before outputting to the Pioneer as well

only slight annoyance is the video going slow every 10 minutes or so(I have smooth video enabled) - when it happens - if I press space to pause and space to un-pause again it immediately goes smooth again - for another 10 minutes anyway !


What sound card or chip does your HTPC have? What cable connection to 59txi? I have been trying to output multichannel flac and WMA-Pro with mixed results. Any help on JRiver settings would be appreciated.
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post #64 of 950
8/9/11 at 8:35pm
Can JRiver be a true replacement to Win7 Media Center running Media Browser?

My needs are only to browse and playback my large music, movie, and TV collections via a normal Windows IR remote (Or actually, in my case, a Harmony remote). I do not need TV tuner support.
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post #65 of 950
8/9/11 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by Smitty2k1 View Post

Can JRiver be a true replacement to Win7 Media Center running Media Browser?

My needs are only to browse and playback my large music, movie, and TV collections via a normal Windows IR remote (Or actually, in my case, a Harmony remote). I do not need TV tuner support.

The answer to that is yes - at least, that's what I use it for. The only downfall is that metadata scraping (automatic gathering and tagging) for video is not currently built-in, and requires plug-ins. However, I believe this may change soon if all goes well.

The software excels at large collections. For example, currently in my library, I have:
17,280 video files. 8,222 are 720p or higher.
30,356 audio files. 10,520 are FLAC.
15,980 image files. Most are cover art for the video and audio files.

I probably have another 500 or so video files to enter into the system. All this is handled without a hiccup.
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post #66 of 950
8/10/11 at 2:13am
The good thing about MC's "Red October" is that it downloads the filters, configs/uses them programmaticaly - so they are never installed and hence the "goodness" or "badness" of your existing DirectShow config does not interfere (or via versa). It is one of the big reasons that video playback "just works"!
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post #67 of 950
8/10/11 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by CountryBumkin View Post

Do not register any of the Filters. JRiver sets everything up itself and runs independant of Windows. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=64277.0


BTW, you should see LAVCUVID in the DirectShowFilters display (right click screen when running movie and highlight DirectShow Filters): At this point you can click on the filter to open/adjust its properties.


CB my version does not have the "Red October " (automatic direct show)
under options as shown in your link. LavCuvid also was not in the list of filters, I had to import it. I did run an update before doing any configuration.
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post #68 of 950
8/10/11 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by Alan Gouger View Post


CB my version does not have the "Red October " (automatic direct show)
under options as shown in your link. LavCuvid also was not in the list of filters, I had to import it. I did run an update before doing any configuration.

I think it wasn't there because you had madvr configured to decode; RO only downloads what it needs, and in your case it didn't need lavcuvid since you already had a decoder (madvr).
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post #69 of 950
8/10/11 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

I think it wasn't there because you had madvr configured to decode; RO only downloads what it needs, and in your case it didn't need lavcuvid since you already had a decoder (madvr).

Ahh that explains it. I spent several hours last night putting the player through its paces with madVR and lav cuvid running mainly video files and not a glitch in playback. Perfect judder free motion with no dropped frames. Creating a playlist it navigated from file to file without a hitch. I am really impressed so far and Im just getting my feet wet. I think the competition has some serious competition here
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post #70 of 950
8/10/11 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by Alan Gouger View Post

CB my version does not have the "Red October " (automatic direct show)
under options as shown in your link. LavCuvid also was not in the list of filters, I had to import it. I did run an update before doing any configuration.

I think you know this, but just in case, I'll wil point out that you don't see "Red Obtober" in the DirectShow Filters. It is RO that gives you the filters Lav Splitter, MadVR (if you choice RO+HQ) and Lav CUVID (if you have an Nvidia GPU). You select RO from the Video Properties page.
See picture here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1351742&page=4 Link#102.

I can't post a screen shot from this computer.
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post #71 of 950
8/10/11 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

Sorry, I couldn't be of more help. At least you had an excuse to upgrade your video card drivers. Did you ask the real experts at the J. River forums for help?

I was trying it on my desktop. I went and installed it on my htpc and it worked fine.

Its just not for me, I don't like the way it handles my tv shows. The UI is just not for me at all, thanks for the help.
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post #72 of 950
8/10/11 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

I was trying it on my desktop. I went and installed it on my htpc and it worked fine.

Its just not for me, I don't like the way it handles my tv shows. The UI is just not for me at all, thanks for the help.

Yeah. I'm fine with the UI but I really hope they get some smart people working on the TV integration part now that audio and video are working so well.

Now if they can get it up to SageTV level, JRiver will be unstoppable.

Hey Jim, aren't there some Sage programmers looking for work now?
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post #73 of 950
8/10/11 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by CountryBumkin View Post
Yeah. I'm fine with the UI but I really hope they get some smart people working on the TV integration part now that audio and video are working so well.

Now if they can get it up to SageTV level, JRiver will be unstoppable.

Hey Jim, aren't there some Sage programmers looking for work now?
Imo it really can't touch media browser in the UI department, I mean they are miles away. I'm sure I could mess with it more, but in theater view, I selected tv and tried every sort method but it didn't recognize my folder structure. So like 200 season of various shows were all together in one list
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post #74 of 950
8/10/11 at 7:56pm
I have searched the jriver's forum but can't find the answer.

Can anyone tell me if subtitles can be moved up or down for Bluray playback? (disk, iso or folders)
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post #75 of 950
8/10/11 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post
I was trying it on my desktop. I went and installed it on my htpc and it worked fine.

Its just not for me, I don't like the way it handles my tv shows. The UI is just not for me at all, thanks for the help.
What don't you like about the way it handles TV shows? Between custom fields, calculated fields, and custom views you can make it look/work most anyway you can imagine. For example, in Theater View I recently added a 'Unwatched TV Shows' section that sorts the episodes from oldest to newest by show. Once I watch an episode it automatically drops out of that section.
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post #76 of 950
8/10/11 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post
Imo it really can't touch media browser in the UI department, I mean they are miles away. I'm sure I could mess with it more, but in theater view, I selected tv and tried every sort method but it didn't recognize my folder structure. So like 200 season of various shows were all together in one list
MC16 works off of the tag data by default, not the folder structure. Step one is to get your tags correct (you can populate tags based on folder structure and file name).
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post #77 of 950
8/11/11 at 12:44am
I'm trying to like it just for dvd replay at the moment. I have xbmc and the meta data is all there but jrmc is blind to it. They need to add a plugin that sees existing data.

Oh, and it doesn't seem to see movies that are stored as isos.
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post #78 of 950
8/11/11 at 12:56am
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post
Imo it really can't touch media browser in the UI department, I mean they are miles away. I'm sure I could mess with it more, but in theater view, I selected tv and tried every sort method but it didn't recognize my folder structure. So like 200 season of various shows were all together in one list
And there you have the main problem of JRiver - it doesn't act anything like any of the other 'front end' offerings.

I agree that it isn't nearly as user friendly as the other 'main stream' apps, but its playback quality far outweighs that issue.

Until you manually tag your files properly in JRiver, no amount of sorting will provide you with anything even remotely close to what you will see in Media Browser, XBMC etc. There are 3rd party apps available to assist the process, but none are a solution to the problem and require far too much manual intervention.

I use JRiver as my main player, living in the hope that metadata collection will be integrated at some point, but as I have stated at other times, until it does it will remain a sideshow (for HTPC) users to other more user-friendly apps - which is a shame.
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post #79 of 950
8/11/11 at 5:05am
Try the library tool called Fill Properties from Filename. It can populate your tags from your directory structure.
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post #80 of 950
8/11/11 at 5:56am
I'll say this since this is an owner's thread...
I absolutely love JRMC for it's organization, speed, and browsing ability. Add the feature to split a single sound card into multiple audio zones and it's untouchable.

With that said, until they develop a native app for Android/iOS/Win Mobile it will be a disappointment for multizone playback. Yes, I know there are 3rd party apps and the (sorry, but quite lame) web browser, but it really needs to work like (as much as it kills me to say it....) iTunes and the iOS app.
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post #81 of 950
8/11/11 at 5:59am
Hi Jim - thanks for that tip - so much to learn, so little time - hence the need for automation. Like others I want the experience and eye-candy, without the hard work. Others have shown it isn't a pipe dream and can be achieved - anything in the pipeline?
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post #82 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Imo it really can't touch media browser in the UI department, I mean they are miles away. I'm sure I could mess with it more, but in theater view, I selected tv and tried every sort method but it didn't recognize my folder structure. So like 200 season of various shows were all together in one list

I am very interested to see how this pans out as well. I hope to start testing JR MC this weekend or early next week. Been a long time Media Browser user so one of my tests will be if I feel JR MC can adequately replace Media Browser with all activity managed via my Harmony remotes (in particular when it comes to the all important WAF). Should be fun/interesting...
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post #83 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by video321 View Post

I'll say this since this is an owner's thread...
... until they develop a native app for Android/iOS/Win Mobile ...

Gizmo on Android is our native app for remote control and remote playback:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network
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post #84 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

Hi Jim - thanks for that tip - so much to learn, so little time - hence the need for automation. Like others I want the experience and eye-candy, without the hard work. Others have shown it isn't a pipe dream and can be achieved - anything in the pipeline?

The point of J. River MC is that you customize things the way YOU want. Not everybody wants to see their media organised in the same way. However, I think enough people want to see their video collection in a certain, previously-learned, way that maybe some default views could be made. I'll take this to the Interact forum and suggest it. There could, for example, be an optional view for those migrating from other software that pre-applies the "properties from filename" filter and is based on that.
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post #85 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by jriver View Post


Gizmo on Android is our native app for remote control and remote playback:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network

And now it has AirVideo like functionality to allow playback of your audio/video library on your android device.
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post #86 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:21am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

The point of J. River MC is that you customize things the way YOU want. Not everybody wants to see their media organised in the same way. However, I think enough people want to see their video collection in a certain, previously-learned, way that maybe some default views could be made. I'll take this to the Interact forum and suggest it. There could, for example, be an optional view for those migrating from other software that pre-applies the "properties from filename" filter and is based on that.

To get more of the current market (i.e. the Media Browser, My Movies, XBMC, etc... crowd) you would definitely want to have some sort of default views with Eye Candy that require very little tweaking (at that point it can then be up to the user to customize if they want)
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post #87 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

The point of J. River MC is that you customize things the way YOU want. Not everybody wants to see their media organised in the same way. However, I think enough people want to see their video collection in a certain, previously-learned, way that maybe some default views could be made. I'll take this to the Interact forum and suggest it. There could, for example, be an optional view for those migrating from other software that pre-applies the "properties from filename" filter and is based on that.

Yeah I agree totally and an accurate summing up. But IF JRiver is serious about capturing a larger size of the market - which I assume they want to otherwise they wouldn't have promoted RO as they did, then a rethink of metadata collection should be a priority.

I don't think it's a case that people want to see their videos in a certain way, but more that they want the collection of the required metadata to be more automated - if that recognised previously scraped material from another previous app, then fine - if not then a robust, included automated metadata collection feature, should be a minimum requirement. The current theatre view, while basic, certainly provides all the detail I require from a 10' UI. However the collection of that data leaves a lot to be desired

I don't make this critiscm lightly as I am an enthusiastic user of the software, but others I am sure will be put-off with the vast array of options available.
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post #88 of 950
8/11/11 at 6:49am
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

Yeah I agree totally and an accurate summing up. But IF JRiver is serious about capturing a larger size of the market - which I assume they want to otherwise they wouldn't have promoted RO as they did, then a rethink of metadata collection should be a priority.

I don't think it's a case that people want to see their videos in a certain way, but more that they want the collection of the required metadata to be more automated - if that recognised previously scraped material from another previous app, then fine - if not then a robust, included automated metadata collection feature, should be a minimum requirement. The current theatre view, while basic, certainly provides all the detail I require from a 10' UI. However the collection of that data leaves a lot to be desired

I don't make this critiscm lightly as I am an enthusiastic user of the software, but others I am sure will be put-off with the vast array of options available.

+1

How ya doing steelman?
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post #89 of 950
8/11/11 at 8:13am
I really want to like this software. It seems very powerful and I'd likely never use 10% of it's capabilities. But, it doesn't seem intuitive enough to me.

One thing I'd love is to be able to directly access TiVo recordings. I wouldn't even care about anything else if I could do that. LOL
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post #90 of 950
8/11/11 at 8:46am
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One thing I'd love is to be able to directly access TiVo recordings. I wouldn't even care about anything else if I could do that. LOL

This may work, depending on what you mean by directly access.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=64420.0
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