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post #751 of 1119
Please try the settings under Tree & View/Full Screen.
post #752 of 1119
Thanks for the quick response all set now!
post #753 of 1119
hi, just decided to try this out. I've been using xbmc with mpc-hc for awhile and wanted to use something that was all in one. couple of questions after playing last night.

when using madvr with mpc-hc and lav video. It uses cuvid on my nvidia card to do the decoding. Can media center not do this as its using 100% of my cpu when using the madvr option.

2nd, XBMC has barely a problem with any movie and the rare occasion it does, I can just edit the title and it goes from there. This can't seem to figure out any movie that has HSBS in the title. I have to edit every 3d movie title to get it to show up. finally, one or two movies it decided are television shows and won't let me search for movie and tv info, it says something about I can edit the properties of it but after 30 minutes last night, I can't find out how to do that. XBMC handled these without an issue.
post #754 of 1119
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

when using madvr with mpc-hc and lav video. It uses cuvid on my nvidia card to do the decoding. Can media center not do this as its using 100% of my cpu when using the madvr option.

Do you have the option to use hardware acceleration (in the video settings section) enabled?
post #755 of 1119
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

Do you have the option to use hardware acceleration (in the video settings section) enabled?

Of course
post #756 of 1119
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

when using madvr with mpc-hc and lav video. It uses cuvid on my nvidia card to do the decoding. Can media center not do this as its using 100% of my cpu when using the madvr option.

If you use Red October HQ (which uses madVR), and enable hardware acceleration, decoding and deinterlacing should be hardware accelerated.

If you're using a standalone madVR (so not Red October), you might double-check your madVR settings (right-click on a playing movie > Directshow Filters > madVR...) to enable

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2nd, XBMC has barely a problem with any movie and the rare occasion it does, I can just edit the title and it goes from there. This can't seem to figure out any movie that has HSBS in the title. I have to edit every 3d movie title to get it to show up. finally, one or two movies it decided are television shows and won't let me search for movie and tv info, it says something about I can edit the properties of it but after 30 minutes last night, I can't find out how to do that. XBMC handled these without an issue.

You need to make sure the 'Media Sub Type' field is correctly set to 'TV Show', 'Movie', etc. You can edit values in Standard View, using Action Window > Tag, or in-place editing in any list.
post #757 of 1119
Trust me, stand alone madvr uses 30 percent, this uses 100 percent. With red October standard it uses like 15 percent like it should with hardware accel

Ill try to look for the media tag, but what about the naming issue,I shouldn't have to manually edit every file
post #758 of 1119
MC has a "Find and replace" feature. It's under Library Tools.
post #759 of 1119
okay, I found the media subtype, it wasn't showing by default, also checked the cpu usage, seems to be normal now. But basically I would have to change every file that I add to this thing when xbmc can find them without any editing? I guess thats fine if you just load movies and leave them, but I add and delete movies each weekend so thats kind of a pain.
post #760 of 1119
I see when playing the movie I can change the aspect ratio to 1.78 to 1. Can I set that as a default, I don't see it in default settings?

And can the gizmo android remote start the media center or do I have to have it running first and then push the green button?
post #761 of 1119
If Media Server is running on the server, Gizmo will be able to connect to it and start any playback on it.
post #762 of 1119
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

okay, I found the media subtype, it wasn't showing by default, also checked the cpu usage, seems to be normal now. But basically I would have to change every file that I add to this thing when xbmc can find them without any editing? I guess thats fine if you just load movies and leave them, but I add and delete movies each weekend so thats kind of a pain.

You can set up an import for your movie folder that specifically applies the movie subtype to everything it imports. Just use the "apply these tags" option and set the media subtype to movie. http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Import

You can also discuss this on the Media Center Forum: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=23.0. They are pretty responsive generally if people provide full details of the problem in a civil, non-confrontational style.
post #763 of 1119
Maybe a bit obscure, but I've got a Bach Media case with an iMon VFD module that has been playing glorified digital clock since installing jRiver Media Center.



Stumbled across a fix if anyone else is interested ...

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=63181.msg503755#msg503755

It's still fairly useless considering I've got a 24" monitor sitting right next to it giving me the same info, and it still doesn't do the graphic eq fancy dance, but hey ... I paid good money for it, and it's extra BLING!
post #764 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

You can set up an import for your movie folder that specifically applies the movie subtype to everything it imports. Just use the "apply these tags" option and set the media subtype to movie. http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Import
You can also discuss this on the Media Center Forum: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=23.0. They are pretty responsive generally if people provide full details of the problem in a civil, non-confrontational style.

sorry, my fault, i should have been clearer, I didn't mean the media tags, I meant when HSBS or HOU movies are loaded, i'll always have to change the title. I assume there is probably a setting to have it filter the name but haven't found it.
post #765 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jriver View Post

If Media Server is running on the server, Gizmo will be able to connect to it and start any playback on it.

i thought that should be the case, i'll check later.

can you comment on this?

"I see when playing the movie I can change the aspect ratio to 1.78 to 1. Can I set that as a default, I don't see it in default settings?"
post #766 of 1119
Like many of you, I've been using XBMC for a while.

JRiver offers us the promise of better video quality, and more advanced sound options.

Wanting to try it out, I got my JRiver MC17 running a little over a week ago.

PROs

Wonderful video and audio reproduction
Automatically found all my files and imported them like a champ
TheaterView is nice, with integrated Hulu and Youtube interface. Very slick!

Cons

It's way too complicated. It takes a good amount of configuration to look anything the easy/simple/intuitive XBMC. Why can't TheaterView be the default view?
Flicker/Display handshake issues on display while playing 720p sources. No combination of Nvidia drivers resolved this. 720 content is unwatchable.

Conclusion - With power and flexibility comes complication and buggy-ness. I can't help but feel this is still a beta product. That being said, I would gladly still buy it if it just worked properly out of the box... OR I could get it to work properly with support from JRiver.

YMMV
post #767 of 1119
Cross link to your thread on our forum:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=75071.0

This may be an Nvidia driver problem.
post #768 of 1119
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Originally Posted by NorCalJason View Post

Like many of you, I've been using XBMC for a while.
JRiver offers us the promise of better video quality, and more advanced sound options.
Wanting to try it out, I got my JRiver MC17 running a little over a week ago.
PROs
Wonderful video and audio reproduction
Automatically found all my files and imported them like a champ
TheaterView is nice, with integrated Hulu and Youtube interface. Very slick!
Cons
It's way too complicated. It takes a good amount of configuration to look anything the easy/simple/intuitive XBMC. Why can't TheaterView be the default view?
Flicker/Display handshake issues on display while playing 720p sources. No combination of Nvidia drivers resolved this. 720 content is unwatchable.
Conclusion - With power and flexibility comes complication and buggy-ness. I can't help but feel this is still a beta product. That being said, I would gladly still buy it if it just worked properly out of the box... OR I could get it to work properly with support from JRiver.
YMMV

its nice that instead of using xbmc and MPC-hc with reclock and madvr, I can just use jriver. But a number of issues stop me from using it now. For one, it doesn't find my movies very well where xbmc nails them 99% of the time. Next there doesn't seem to be a way to make the stupid thing stick on 16:9 aspect ration without changing each movie individually. And finally the remote is just unintelligible. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to use it. It seems I have to switch screens just to start a movie and then control it. I can't find any instructions on how to actually use the remote as well.
post #769 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jriver View Post

Cross link to your thread on our forum:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=75071.0
This may be an Nvidia driver problem.

Dunno. I've tried a half dozen different driver packages - spent over 4hrs uninstalling, reinstalling and testing last night.

I really wish it would work. But alas...
post #770 of 1119
Did you try another PC?
post #771 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jriver View Post

Did you try another PC?

I need it to work on my HTPC. Not another computer in the house.

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post #772 of 1119
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Originally Posted by NorCalJason View Post

I need it to work on my HTPC. Not another computer in the house.
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But you do realise the power of trying another PC in the house to help you diagnose why it's not working with your HTPC, don't you?
post #773 of 1119
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Originally Posted by NorCalJason View Post

Conclusion - With power and flexibility comes complication and buggy-ness. I can't help but feel this is still a beta product. That being said, I would gladly still buy it if it just worked properly out of the box... OR I could get it to work properly with support from JRiver.
YMMV
There is certainly a trade-off between power and flexibility. Coming from MeediOS about 6 months ago, which is, if anything,more complicated and less easy to understand, but also infinitely configurable, I could never get comfortable with XBMC. It was just too limiting. JRiver MC IMO combines immense flexibility (and so a certain learning curve for sure) with rock solid stability.

Honestly, I do not recognise your comments about JRiver bugginess at all. An inevitable aspect of the PC world is there is no one standard platform and different installed software interact in pretty unpredictable ways. You only have to look at the forums for EVERY game released to see many working just fine and others suffering from any myriad of weird and wonderful problems. But JRiver MC has proved for me, and I think the vast majority of its users, to be one of the most rock solid PC products I have ever bought, beating for sure major commercial products like Photoshop. Considering its vast feature set and configurability, in fact regardless of that, it is a pretty bullet proof product. I'd urge you to stick with it, follow any diagnostic tips you are given and try to iron out any system/driver problems. You will certainly appreciate the power and the audio/video quality.
post #774 of 1119
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

its nice that instead of using xbmc and MPC-hc with reclock and madvr, I can just use jriver. But a number of issues stop me from using it now. For one, it doesn't find my movies very well where xbmc nails them 99% of the time. Next there doesn't seem to be a way to make the stupid thing stick on 16:9 aspect ration without changing each movie individually. And finally the remote is just unintelligible. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to use it. It seems I have to switch screens just to start a movie and then control it. I can't find any instructions on how to actually use the remote as well.
Feel free to explain your issues in more detail and I am sure someone will try to help.

Sometimes MC does get my movies wrong, but it is pretty rare and easily fixable inside JRiver. Maybe if you gave some examples it could be fixed or at least understood and a workaround found.

I've never seen your 16:9 problem, but I'm not denying it is possible. Are these letterboxed? What file type? Codec? A short sample from one of the videos would be helpful.

I don't use the hardware remote myself, but use JRiver with the Harmony 900 (via an inbuilt iMon IR receiver) and it works beautifully. I'm sure any IR receiver would work similarly. Also there are both IOS, Android and browser-based apps (some free, the IOS one (JRemote) from a third party and chargeable) which work well.

I'm not quite sure what your problem is starting a movie but it sounds like you may need to change options/general/behavior/"Jump on Play (video)" to "Displayview". if that isn't it, then maybe you can explain what you are seeing in a bit more detail.
post #775 of 1119
I bought v17 back when it was in beta and I used it right up until the last update (.184 maybe?) which broke DLNA for me for some reason. I haven't really looked into it. I used to use my WDTV player in the bedroom to stream movies from the HTPC and with some update whenever I would click on the "server" from the WDTV, JRMC would crash on the HTPC. I then went through the couple of steps of getting network shares working on the WDTV and I can get movies playing, but it's not nearly as elegant at when JRMC wasn't crashing.
post #776 of 1119
Just DL Jriver 18 to give it a try. First time user.

Why does Jriver create and leave an audio file in my movies folders? Odd?

So far not thrilled how it handles my .iso files.

Jriver's Naming of a lot of my files is odd.
post #777 of 1119
iso handling is a little basic in MC17. We are hoping for improvements in MC18. So far MC18 has a lot more features to add before it is finalised.

Most of the issues with .iso can be fixed by changing the importer. Specifically it is possible to automatically import them as eg. movies (instead of data, as by default!) and import all the right metadata, just search for .iso in the JRiver forum. It would also be useful if you added your thoughts to one or more of the .iso handling threads as it may help get more dev focus!

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=72872.0
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=70528.0
post #778 of 1119
Update: I got it working with a discrete video card. Running smooth now.
post #779 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

iso handling is a little basic in MC17. We are hoping for improvements in MC18. So far MC18 has a lot more features to add before it is finalised.
Most of the issues with .iso can be fixed by changing the importer. Specifically it is possible to automatically import them as eg. movies (instead of data, as by default!) and import all the right metadata, just search for .iso in the JRiver forum. It would also be useful if you added your thoughts to one or more of the .iso handling threads as it may help get more dev focus!
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=72872.0
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=70528.0

Thanks for the info.

I am trying to figure out what I use as a virtual drive, but no luck yet.

Like what I have seen so far. Getting the audio correct took a bit longer than I thought, I had to use WASPI wasn't too familiar with that.

All in all unless something changes for .ISO I doubt I will convert over to mkv or TS_video. I will continue to mess with Jriver to maximize my trial, but at this point it is still XBMC and or media-browser.
post #780 of 1119
I do like the theatre view a lot, clean and simple. Enjoying listening to my music on it; Like how it populates pics of the artist while the music is on.
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