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post #91 of 1119
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Originally Posted by jriver View Post

This may work, depending on what you mean by directly access.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=64420.0

By that, I mean access the recording on the TiVo drive (without transferring it to the PC).

I understand TiVo is now experimenting with streaming from one Premiere to another, so this may be possible soon.
post #92 of 1119
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

+1

How ya doing steelman?

Yeah fine mate - nice to see you testing JRiver, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Looking forward to your assessment it really is a great app - but I won't spoil it too much for you.
post #93 of 1119
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

To get more of the current market (i.e. the Media Browser, My Movies, XBMC, etc... crowd) you would definitely want to have some sort of default views with Eye Candy that require very little tweaking (at that point it can then be up to the user to customize if they want)

I can't disagree with this.
post #94 of 1119
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

For example, in Theater View I recently added a 'Unwatched TV Shows' section that sorts the episodes from oldest to newest by show. Once I watch an episode it automatically drops out of that section.

How did you do that? I see that it has all these categories built in, but I haven't figured out how to assign a movie to a category. How do I set up and flag things as, say, sports, concerts, classic movies, comedies, action, etc.

I was hoping it would extract that data from the downloaded metadata, but it doesn't seem to.

Thanks for the help.

I'm going to go ahead and buy it this weekend, because with the help of these threads I'm starting to get it into a workable setup (finally got the manual metadata grab to work), but I still need a lot of help in actually getting things organized. I don't have enough media at the moment that doing it manually is a problem. I just need to learn how. Thanks.
post #95 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

How did you do that? I see that it has all these categories built in, but I haven't figured out how to assign a movie to a category. How do I set up and flag things as, say, sports, concerts, classic movies, comedies, action, etc.


You can tag all this, creating your own custom fields if you like, in StandardView (the iTunes-like interface). Just right click on the column headings to display existing categories. You can create new fields in the Options>Library&Folders>Manage Library Fields.

A newly-written Wiki appears here, but it's still being modified according to user feedback.
post #96 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post


I'm going to go ahead and buy it this weekend, because with the help of these threads I'm starting to get it into a workable setup (finally got the manual metadata grab to work), but I still need a lot of help in actually getting things organized. I don't have enough media at the moment that doing it manually is a problem. I just need to learn how. Thanks.

What format is the metadata in? Is it in an additional file, or tagged in the files themselves? If the latter, you can just right click on the files in Standard View and go to Library Tools>Update Library (from tags). You can choose as many files as you like and update in one go.

If the metadata is in a supplemental file, there may be a way to convert it into a J. River Sidecar format, but I am not able to help here, I'm afraid.
post #97 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

What format is the metadata in? Is it in an additional file, or tagged in the files themselves?

Don't have any idea. It's in whatever form it is saved when you use the built in "get data from Wikipedia" function.
post #98 of 1119
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

Don't have any idea. It's in whatever form it is saved when you use the built in "get data from Wikipedia" function.

Oh! I misunderstood... I thought you had metadata from another, previously-used, program. If you're getting it from Wikipedia from within MC16, it'll be a much easier endeavour for you/us.
post #99 of 1119
Some screenshots again, salvaged from the closed thread. The last two are from user glynor. I haven't done as much customisation of my views as I'd like, and my second shot doesn't really show what is available for TV shows, except for automatically downloaded and displayed TV backdrops:




post #100 of 1119
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

MC16 works off of the tag data by default, not the folder structure. Step one is to get your tags correct (you can populate tags based on folder structure and file name).

Why would I want to manually "tag" everything. What a pain, my shows are listed like this
Seinfeld
Season 1
S01E01.avi

Is that not good enough? They all also have metadata already included. No worries though its not for me. Doesn't seem like a real front end to me but more like a fancy windows media player.


EDIT^^^ The above post has some decent looking screens. Better then what I saw but I honestly gave it like 5 minutes.
post #101 of 1119
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Why would I want to manually "tag" everything. What a pain, my shows are listed like this
Seinfeld
Season 1
S01E01.avi

Is that not good enough? They all also have metadata already included. No worries though its not for me. Doesn't seem like a real front end to me but more like a fancy windows media player.

Unless things have changed with the newer versions you can also use standard folder structure for browsing. That's what I do for my shows.
post #102 of 1119
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Originally Posted by KramerTC View Post

I have searched the jriver's forum but can't find the answer.

Can anyone tell me if subtitles can be moved up or down for Bluray playback? (disk, iso or folders)

Anyone?
post #103 of 1119
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Why would I want to manually "tag" everything. What a pain, my shows are listed like this
Seinfeld
Season 1
S01E01.avi

Is that not good enough? They all also have metadata already included. No worries though its not for me. Doesn't seem like a real front end to me but more like a fancy windows media player.


EDIT^^^ The above post has some decent looking screens. Better then what I saw but I honestly gave it like 5 minutes.

You don't have to manually tag everything. If your folder structure and filenames contain the info you can use that to populate the tags automatically using the 'fill properties from filename' feature.
post #104 of 1119
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Originally Posted by KramerTC View Post

I have searched the jriver's forum but can't find the answer.

Can anyone tell me if subtitles can be moved up or down for Bluray playback? (disk, iso or folders)

I'm not sure about this, but I can check. Why would you want to do this? Is it so that subtitles can be onscreen on a scope screen?

If so, this is just the sort of feature that I think they'd be quite accommodating with.
post #105 of 1119
It looks like the subtitles are fixed. I could request this feature and see what happens.
post #106 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

It looks like the subtitles are fixed. I could request this feature and see what happens.

Thanks a bunch. Yes, I need this functionality for a wide scope screen.
post #107 of 1119
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Originally Posted by lewispaul View Post

Doesn't J. River have its own interactive forum? Why are we posting here rather than there. Is Fitbrit the 'official' poster to J. River or can anyone post there? Confused.

JRiver has its own Forum http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=22.0 All you have to do is register there. I don't want to send anyone away from here but you will most likely get a lot better coverage of your questions by very experienced users if you post there.

I don't think fitbrit has any 'official' capacity - just a good guy who really likes JRMC and is trying to help folks out here.

Rod
post #108 of 1119
I don't work for J. River. I've enjoyed their software a lot over the past 4 years. I'm trying to help others give it a fair go to see if they see it as a valuable alternative to their current setups. In the process there have been some suggestions that might improve the software overall for others, including myself.
post #109 of 1119
Very true. I could have posted on jriver's support forum. I chose to do it here because AVS is where I hang out and feel more comfortable asking here. I'm considering getting back into the HTCP thing after burning out on it back in the DVD days.
post #110 of 1119
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Originally Posted by nwboater View Post

JRiver has its own Forum http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=22.0 All you have to do is register there. I don't want to send anyone away from here but you will most likely get a lot better coverage of your questions by very experienced users if you post there.

I don't think fitbrit has any 'official' capacity - just a good guy who really likes JRMC and is trying to help folks out here.

Rod

Thanks Rod. I don't know how much of a 'good' guy I am, but the rest sums it up.
post #111 of 1119
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Originally Posted by KramerTC View Post

Thanks a bunch. Yes, I need this functionality for a wide scope screen.

I should add that I didn't test with BluRay subtitles, but I believe all subtitles are handled similarly. All the ones I tested (just a handful of m2ts files) showed their subtitles on the movie itself, never below on the letterboxed "black-bars". In any case, I've started this thread over at Interact:

Feature requests from AVS users who tried, are trying or are thinking of trying.

To address your other question:
MC16 recognises m2ts files, BDMV folders too. Also the BD playlists are recognised and can be individually tagged (so you can choose your favourite episode of Lost from a disk with many, for example).
For ISO, you may need additional software running in the background like VirtualCloneDrive to mount the disk, and you have to specify ISO as a video type ('cos it could be anything) in order to see the associated metadata.
post #112 of 1119
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Why would I want to manually "tag" everything. What a pain, my shows are listed like this
Seinfeld
Season 1
S01E01.avi

Is that not good enough? They all also have metadata already included. No worries though its not for me. Doesn't seem like a real front end to me but more like a fancy windows media player.


EDIT^^^ The above post has some decent looking screens. Better then what I saw but I honestly gave it like 5 minutes.

You don't have to tag anything. I don't. My TV Series are setup the same way yours are except my file name is "Seinfeld s01.e01. Name of Episode. mkv". JRiver handles this fine.

One thing that I do, that is probably different from others, is that I have/use the program MyMovies4. So I use MyMovies to download the IMBD movie data, then JRiver uses that (meta) data for display. I just rip a movie to a named folder and then start MyMovies, which detects the new movie and downloads the movie data. I know you don't need MyMovies, but since I already have it its nice that it works with JRiver program.
post #113 of 1119
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Originally Posted by CountryBumkin View Post

You don't have to tag anything. I don't. My TV Series are setup the same way yours are except my file name is "Seinfeld s01.e01. Name of Episode. mkv". JRiver handles this fine.

One thing that I do, that is probably different from others, is that I have/use the program MyMovies4. So I use MyMovies to download the IMBD movie data, then JRiver uses that (meta) data for display. I just rip a movie to a named folder and then start MyMovies, which detects the new movie and downloads the movie data. I know you don't need MyMovies, but since I already have it its nice that it works with JRiver program.

Surely you would have to undertake some form of tagging, otherwise JRiver, wouldn't know the media sub category of video - ie: Movies from TV Shows?
post #114 of 1119
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

Surely you would have to undertake some form of tagging, otherwise JRiver, wouldn't know the media sub category of video - ie: Movies from TV Shows?

You can customize your views for things such as "path does not contain: movies" and only your shows will be listed. Of course all of your movies would have to be a subdirectory under "movies."
post #115 of 1119
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

Surely you would have to undertake some form of tagging, otherwise JRiver, wouldn't know the media sub category of video - ie: Movies from TV Shows?

In the JRiver setup section, you have to tell MC where your movies (video), Audio, Pictures, etc. are located. So when setting everything up for each media type, you browse to the directory (such as "\\\\HTPC\\Movies" for example) and JR uses that location and assigns all the folders in that directory as movies (video). Same for the other media types. My TV-Series are all stored in folders (by series name) in its own Directory (called "My TV"). So the TV-series are not added into the Movie listings.

Then you tell MC where the meta data, cover art, etc. is located. You can select "same folder as movie", or point to a different location.
I use MyMovies4 for collecting the movie cover art and meta data. With MyMovies the movie cover art and meta data is created/downloaded and stored in the same folder with the movie. If you use Video_TS format, your movie would be one folder down (in the Video folder). MC knows how to handle this. I don't know how the movie data is gathered by JRiver if you don't have a MyMovies type program.

Now with my Blu-ray movies I create a folder called "movie name [Blu-ray]", then JR adds the movie to the HD category. The "[Blu-ray]" is not used in the title/name display but distingishes the movie as a BD rather than a DVD.

Lastlym I'm still learning MC, so there may be other/better ways to get the job done. This is just how I do it.
post #116 of 1119
I'm still experimenting with a front end for my HTPC. Started with MediaBrowser, currently I'm using XBMC, and experimenting with jriver as I like what everyone is saying about the playback "just works". But I have to agree with the many users that say it is not very intuitive. It took me hours just to figure out how to move my isos from data to videos even using the jriver forum. This thing has so many customizable options that it makes it completely confusing. I am not giving up yet, but you would think that if they can fully automate Madvr and lav filters being integrated, that it should be easy to import videos of all types like with other media center software.

I don't mean this to be taken offensively, just voicing my opinion.

By the way, what is the easiest way to import my cover art for bluray files? Jriver imports mkvs and isos cover art just fine, but do I have to individually import for each movie from the individual file?

Also would be nice to get some sort of cover flow type display for theater mode. If it's there I'm sorry I just can't figure out how to get to it.

Thanks
post #117 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fyrfyter71 View Post

... it should be easy to import videos of all types like with other media center software...

Tools/Options/Import. You can set up autoimport to watch folders. In the same place, use Edit to select which filetypes to import. You can also exclude folders there.

You should be able to right click on a Blu-ray to get art from Wikipedia. There are other cover art solutions for movies on our Third Party board. Blu-ray is new, so I'm not sure if they will work.
post #118 of 1119
Am I understanding this correctly that if I create, say, 4 folders, entitled "Movies", "TV", "Sports," and "Concerts", the program will sort the files that I have in those four folders accordingly, without my having to individually tag the files?

Is there something I need to do to tell it to do that?
post #119 of 1119
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Originally Posted by fyrfyter71 View Post

I'm still experimenting with a front end for my HTPC. Started with MediaBrowser, currently I'm using XBMC, and experimenting with jriver as I like what everyone is saying about the playback "just works". But I have to agree with the many users that say it is not very intuitive. It took me hours just to figure out how to move my isos from data to videos even using the jriver forum. This thing has so many customizable options that it makes it completely confusing. I am not giving up yet, but you would think that if they can fully automate Madvr and lav filters being integrated, that it should be easy to import videos of all types like with other media center software.

I don't mean this to be taken offensively, just voicing my opinion.

By the way, what is the easiest way to import my cover art for bluray files? Jriver imports mkvs and isos cover art just fine, but do I have to individually import for each movie from the individual file?

Also would be nice to get some sort of cover flow type display for theater mode. If it's there I'm sorry I just can't figure out how to get to it.

Thanks


There's a 3D coverview, which is kind of cool, but still needs some polish IMO. There's also a wall of covers type view as seen in my screenshots above.
I too found the program daunting at first, and to be honest I keep still finding cool features and applications of these after 4 years. I'm very glad I stuck with it. One of my posts above links to a thread in the J.River forum that I made to discuss what you guys want. Feel free to post there.
Many J. River users have been using the software for years and have evolved with the program. So for us, it's not always clear where the improvements are required to get new users to give it a fair chance.

Since MC is so actively developed, with constant improvements often happening everyday, it's hard to write a static manual. I'm going to encourage users and the staff at J. River to post video how-tos - an idea that other users have already proposed and is gaining some support.
post #120 of 1119
I like the 3D cover art too. When you scroll left or right (and hold scroll button down) the rows of cover art (the movie covers) rotate to an angle (and go off into the disatnce) and then the art work scrolls quickly. it's a good way to get through a lot of covers. Once you stop scolling (stop holding right or left scoll button) the image rotates to a forward view and enlarges. I tried to get a screen shot but the action was too fast. Here is the best capture I good get.

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