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post #151 of 277
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

that is a VERY optimistic outlook...

and when 4k displays are readily available, guess what they'll include?
yes, that's right, 4k video processing....

... and if there is 4K source material, you will need a new player, processor, and display anyway

- Rich
post #152 of 277
^^^

yup... there's those minor details as well...
post #153 of 277
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

... and if there is 4K source material, you will need a new player, processor, and display anyway

- Rich

and "just because" its available will be the reason some will want it


Warren
post #154 of 277
Putting two video processing chips in the product looks like a Kluge.

Oppo does very well with just the QDEO.

- Rich
post #155 of 277
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

yup... there's those minor details as well...

Toshiba just released a 4K capable LED..in the UK....along with glassless 3D capability...for the " low" suggested MSRP of $11,500(55")

Maybe next year..it might make it to the US...so then you can have 2 out of the 3 products in hand


Warren
post #156 of 277
Thread Starter 
Well, no recent news on the 5509?
post #157 of 277
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Originally Posted by cougar75 View Post

Well, no recent news on the 5509?

Any recent discussion has been in the 5508 thread. IMO, these units are so similar that the thread should be 5507/8/9.
post #158 of 277
From what I heard from a dealer is that these won't be released in the USA.
post #159 of 277
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

From what I heard from a dealer is that these won't be released in the USA.

It affirms my decision to get the 5508 and not wait for the 5509. Does the 5509 get hot like the 5508 does?
post #160 of 277
I'm not sure what you consider hot but my 5508 doesn't get "hot". I've had two onkyos before this and they got hot. This one gets warm just like my xpa5 or any other electronic.
post #161 of 277
Mine gets quite warm to the touch. A small very quiet fan takes care of it though. My XPA-3 and UPA-5 run cool.
post #162 of 277
It must be in a closed space.
post #163 of 277
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

From what I heard from a dealer is that these won't be released in the USA.

Score: Dealers: 1, Consumers: 0.

- Rich
post #164 of 277
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

It must be in a closed space.

Actually it has 4" above it and open on all sides. When it was in a closed space it was actually hot, not too hot to touch, but by my judgement "hot."
post #165 of 277
The heat just wasn't dissipating fast enough.
post #166 of 277
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

The heat just wasn't dissipating fast enough.

Yes, I know. And the Emotiva amps remain nearly cool to the touch. The fan has really helped too.
post #167 of 277
The HDMI board certainly produces more heat than I thought. My 3008 would get quite warm/hot especially at the upper-rear-left corner - even when idle. When is use, it wouldn't take long to get the temperature high enough to trigger the cooling fans. This was down to the speaker load and only having 5" clearance above it. Using some fans solved the problem.

I replaced the 3008 with a 5508 and UPA-7. The 5508 still got pretty warm/hot, but the UPA-7 also got fairly warm. This also suggested that the speaker load was a bit of a tricky one, as other people were saying that their UPA-7's remain relatively cool.

The 5509 is pretty similar in heat to the 5508. It is not easy for me to provide more than 5" clearance, so I'll continue to use the fans I bought for the 3008.
post #168 of 277
Yes, a fan is cheap insurance and the USB port powered one I have is very quiet.
post #169 of 277
Anyone find the following odd? Try and visit http://www.onkyopro.com to be greeted with:

"Onkyo Pro is closed. Please visit Onkyo USA instead.
Click here if you are not automatically redirected within 15 seconds.

Thank you."

Between this and the lack of a 5509 US release my conspiracy theory is that the Onkyo Pro line is going away to leave basically Onkyo/Integra as the only two product lines.

I was hoping to get a 5509, but looks like I'll be stuck with a 80.3

Thoughts?
post #170 of 277
I dont see why having a 80.3 is bad?
post #171 of 277
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

I dont see why having a 80.3 is bad?

Certainly not bad, but typically I could get the Onkyo Pros for materially less money...and I think the Onkyo Pros look better. But you are right, this isn't a huge issue. Just interesting.
post #172 of 277
Hi all
I have an Onkyo PR-SC5509 Network receiver with the PA-MC5501 amplifier; I upgraded the firmware via network successfully to version 1061-0500-0110-3101. I noticed that if I select any NEO x mode the processor indicates that the front wide speakers are suppose to be active but I made 100% sure there are no sound coming from them (Front wide). Audyssey DSX and any other mode on the other hand do work correctly, all speaker play as indicated on the receivers display including the Front wides. I clearly indicate no hardware problem.
I have tested this on a friends PR-SC5509 receiver and NEO x works correctly, the firmware on his receiver is still on version 1031 0300 0110 0101 like he received it.
I have mailed Onkyo and received a [Ticket#2012011610000052] RE: ONKYO: Support-Request but nobody comes back to me with questions or answers.
Does anyone out there have a simular experience of solution for me please?
post #173 of 277
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Originally Posted by Manchild View Post

Anyone find the following odd? Try and visit http://www.onkyopro.com to be greeted with:

"Onkyo Pro is closed. Please visit Onkyo USA instead.
Click here if you are not automatically redirected within 15 seconds.

Thank you."

Between this and the lack of a 5509 US release my conspiracy theory is that the Onkyo Pro line is going away to leave basically Onkyo/Integra as the only two product lines.

I was hoping to get a 5509, but looks like I'll be stuck with a 80.3

Thoughts?

According to EIKI the US distributor for ONKYO Pro, they aren't going anywhere. However they are having some website issues and have incorrect info up until they get it fixed.
post #174 of 277
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Originally Posted by bioforce View Post

According to EIKI the US distributor for ONKYO Pro, they aren't going anywhere. However they are having some website issues and have incorrect info up until they get it fixed.

I will not buy the Integra line since I (nor my wife) do not like the looks.
Onkyo's plan to force sales is probably not well thought out.
Too much face saving at this point to hope for a change.

- Rich
post #175 of 277
I expect prices on the good stuff, the prepros, to go up.

They have been charging below market for what they can do.
post #176 of 277
For those with a deeper interest for what's inside their Onkyo 5509 or Integra 80.3 a link to the Service Manual of the 5009
Don't be "shocked", that there are so many identical parts inside, because the SM covers several units like the 3009, 5009, 5509 and several Integras, which are almost alike.
post #177 of 277
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Originally Posted by zacjones View Post

Integra = $$$$
Onkyo = $$$

that's why I'm holding out anyway.

Not necessarily, I was looking for a used 80.2 and found an authorized dealer who sold me a new 80.3 for less than the 5009's street price. Just have to be willing to spend some time looking.

Before anyone asks, no you won't get that deal from the same dealer nor will I disclose. I'm just sayin, it doesn't hurt to shop around and that has never been truer than in this economy ...
post #178 of 277
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Originally Posted by pstrisik View Post

Any recent discussion has been in the 5508 thread. IMO, these units are so similar that the thread should be 5507/8/9.

I say the same thing. I have been driving my system with the 5508 since April 2011. Yes I had all the issues described in another post, but my dealer had me return it (June 2011) and sent me a newer build and she's been flawless to date.

As far as the 5509 if it is ever released here I have to wonder if it configures the channel outputs the same. Anyone use to listening to SACD in 5.1 may be a little disappointed or unhappy if you set up your 5508 as 9.1 or 7.1. The way the surround system is setup, what you would normally hear from rear surrounds (on a 5.1 setup using SACD as your source) will come from the sides. It takes a little getting use too. Other than that I really like the 5508. It replaced my B&K Reference 50 that too worked flawlessly. I would have kept it if it had HDMI inputs.
post #179 of 277
He should have sold you the 80.3 at a lower price than the 5009 costs anyway, because the 80.3 is practically a 5009 without power amps, plus a modified power supply and the balanced input / output stages. I was quite surprised, when i looked at the schematics for the 5009 and found the exact same schematics (boards) within the 5509 / 80.3. This makes the preamp actually a (almost) subset of the 5009.

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Not necessarily, I was looking for a used 80.2 and found an authorized dealer who sold me a new 80.3 for less than the 5009's street price. Just have to be willing to spend some time looking.

Before anyone asks, no you won't get that deal from the same dealer nor will I disclose. I'm just sayin, it doesn't hurt to shop around and that has never been truer than in this economy ...
post #180 of 277
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Score: Dealers: 1, Consumers: 0.

- Rich

You bet, the dealer network have been screaming for mercy ever since distribution companies like Markertek started dishing out the Onkyos at
decent prices.

Let's face it, soon everything will happen on the www, whether they like it or not. Look at thecableco with their multimillion online cable lending system, soon one will be able to put together a system in the home on a 30 day trial
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