Originally Posted by esdwa
This product can be used for the same purpose as any other competitive sold on in us market. [...]
Not necessarily: your (and profhat's) inexhaustible enthusiasm reflects your personal satisfaction with the MTV7000 capabilities, but the features that thrill you remain unappealing or incomplete to others. You keep harping on points like "I don't want to pay subscription fees" and "I don't like copyright restrictions," then you turn right around and accept MTV7000 limitations that would be infuriating to large numbers of other North American members who are hoping for a fully-functional Hi-Def replacement for DVD/HDD recorders. You undercut your own argument by revealing
The TS files created by MINI are not playable on any other device, including PC. When playing outside the MINI, the playback picture is black and there is no audio. The only way to play it is to through MINI. Works as expected per recorder user's manual protecting recorded and copyrighted content from being played elsewhere. As it goes to storage, you can connect standard external USB hard drive up to 2TB to use as additional space on the top of internal hard disk.
So in other words, unless I'm misunderstanding you, the MTV7000 is about as useless for archiving as a subscription recorder from satellite or cable!
It can't send generic files to a PC for capture and future playback on any random device? It can't save as generic files on external USB drives? It can only save files in a proprietary format that only the MTV7000 can play, either internally or on external expansion drives? It is fully compliant with HDCP? Then what makes this any more useful than a subscription PVR? What am I not understanding about your enthusiasm? I'm not being sarcastic or disrespectful, I honestly don't see what advantage you think you're getting that makes this unit worth the price and import hassles.
Since it records in a closed proprietary format not playable on any other device, then there is actually no advantage over the supposed "risk" of buying a closed TiVO lifeime subscription. For cable subscribers or off-air users, the chances of TiVO going out of business are the same or better than PixelMagic going out of business, but at least the expense of the TiVO gets you the integrated timer grid, simultaneous recording on multiple channels, and ability to network to your PC to archive recordings as flexible generic video files
. The TiVO is not so appealing for satellite subscribers, I'll agree with you 100% there, but if you're going to get stuck with a proprietary closed recorder system anyway the price of the MTV7000 would pay for 3 to 4 years of satellite PVR subscription service (which again at least offers integrated EPG recording from multiple simultaneous channels).
Considering the Hong Kong spec of the MTV7000, if it is a closed system as you describe then you are overstating the case of "open" Asian copyright handling versus "draconian" North America: according to you, there is no functional difference between a subscription PVR and the MTV7000. Both are closed systems that don't permit archiving as generic files. About all you're getting from the MTV7000 over the satellite PVR is ability to record PS3 game play: if that is your top priority then the MTV7000 makes sense. But if your priority is recording movies and TV, the advantage goes to the multiple tuners and integrated EPG of the satellite PVR.
At $500 plus associated import costs, the MTV7000 is not so fantastically cheaper than the satellite PVR subscription fees to make it a worthwhile alternative for general users: it adds the PS3 recording feature, but loses the crucial multiple tuners and EPG. Again, my apologies if I am misunderstanding your description of the MTV7000 capabilities: if it DOES in fact connect to a PC to permit saving satellite recordings as generic video files, then it definitely would be worth compromising on the EPG and multiple tuners (tho cable
subscribers would still be better off with the TiVO).
I have just noticed that almost every thread that include keywords hdtv and recording for some reason is perceived by many as some kind of voodoo. It is not
It isn't voodoo, its just a big pain in North America because our fractious cable and satellite companies are all incompatible with each other and hostile to third-party recorders. Americans and Canadians satisfied with their off-air reception have several good HTPC alternatives available for recording, as well as TiVO, cable users can exploit the TiVO if they want PC file connectivity. But satellite is totally locked down: no realistic alternative to their subscription PVRs unless you cobble together an HTPC connection to the analog component outputs of the decoder box.
We're in the minority of North Americans: four out of five people in USA/Canada have no interest whatever in saving or repeat viewing of TV shows or most movies. Nearly all of them are satisfied with closed cable/satellite systems with no archiving ability, and most actually prefer the PVR subscription economics to the upfront purchase costs and convenience limitations of third-party recorders. Other parts of the world have more coherent broadcast, EPG and satellite standards/regulations that made BluRay/HDD and HDTV recorders feasible (including Hong Kong where the MTV7000 itself is obviously a much more compelling and useful device).Edited by CitiBear - 11/19/12 at 5:25am