Originally Posted by htcritic
You love to aruge. You argue often.
Guilty as charged.
Don't look in the mirror but you do too
. Why else would you debate the spelling of a word over and over again?
You argue with no reason to argue.
See above on the spelling bit
You argue against reason and logic.
I asked earlier for someone to give examples. None were given. Pick any technical field that you think I should not have argued and we can discuss something meaningful.
Your insulting and you love to group people together, assign similarities to those groups, and then demean and insult entire groups of people in one fell swoop.
Entire group? Didn't I clarify that multiple times? That we are discussing a few people who are disruptive, rarely discuss the science of the position they are taking, hiding what audio equipment and experiences they have? I thought I did
There are countless objectivists who do not post nonsense pictures and posts and live on information free one-liner posts complaining about what position someone else is taking. I consider myself one of them and many others who hang out here and WBF. As I noted earlier, two of our supermods there staunch objectivists.
Somehow you want to create a defense by attempting to put an entire community at fault where I am talking about the few who looted the downtown shops. That is not my position and I have constantly corrected you and others attempting to make it so.
Proper objectivity is critical in analyzing audio performance. I don't consider what the militant objectivists do proper objectivity. If you don't understand the science of how a DAC works, you have no business claiming they all perform the same. If I don't understand how a car engine works and what its specifications mean, I have no business saying they all accelerate the same. Yet that is precisely what is stated here and indirectly sanctioned by a defense such as yours.
You argue for the sake of the argument and often provide no basis or counterpoints to why you are arguing.
Again, I love to see some examples. I provided the link to the DAC thread. You see that the person who threw gasoline over the fire was Arny, not me. Grand claims were made that then triggered with me saying, "wait a minute." In our most recent debate thread, it was another grand claim by him that all pro amps act like a wire. Prior to that, it was me who post measurements of cables showing the audiophile cable was actually the underperforming one. If I wanted to argue for the sake of arguing, why would I do that?
I do that because objectivity calls for that. It calls for using measurement equipment to chatracterize things. It calls for running spice simulations of real cables to see what effect they have in audio band. And then sharing that data even if it doesn't serve some hard over position one way or the other.
Where would I find such posts from you all complaining about my posts? When did you admit to an opposing point of view and went further to put forth data and measurements to support the same? I don't see that. I see blind faith by some not schooled in the science and engineering, based on what makes sense in their gut and what they have read online. That would be fine if they didn't then attempt to preach said gospel. But that is not where they stop. They roam from thread to thread, hoping to convince everyone.
Then I ask them if they have an engineering degree and I hear sound of crickets. I ask them what double blind testing they do in selection of their own equipment and I hear excuse after excuse that it is too hard, etc. On what basis are you defending such people? And get angry with me? Would you rather see no one discuss the science so that your side looks good? Is that what we strive for in a forum called AVS? Supporting beliefs?
You never give an inch and are never wrong.
As I noted, that is not the case. Here is the specifics:
Originally Posted by amirm
I ran a bunch of simulations for measured cable parameters against the load of a typical 2-way speaker. You can see it starting here: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...e-Theory/page3
Net of it was that no matter which cable characteristics we plugged into the model, it didn't amount to much. We even looked at phase shifts and such and it was always pretty small.
One plausible explanation put forth is that connectors may oxidize, come loose, etc. so when people switch cables, they hear a difference. So it is important to go back to the original cable once more to make sure it didn't improve just the same.
That said, I did run a blind test at home once using interconnects to the dual inputs of my Stax headphone amp. And despite switching the cables at each experiment, the difference remained. I have no explanation to offer per-se but what I did hear was repeatable but very small.
As to not being wrong, I have been wrong and catastrophically so. I have discussed my failings online for the world to read. I have yet to see the other side to the same and do so willingly without being asked repeatedly and even then, it is hard to read in their words whether they truly are accepting the error.
You don't know when to stop and have no idea of what the word compromise it. I'm wrong???
Compromise with whom? The militant few who are determined to death to drive out the other voice? What would compromise would mean in that context? Did you read the de-mag thread on WBF? Did that not look like me taking your side of the fence? What did that get me in this thread? Nothing. People then picked on other members there and what I said in a post. The entire context of me going strongly to disprove the claims of the product was dismissed. Or else, why would you say what you just did?
So it is not about that. You want to win a word argument and are going to throw all the daggers you have
. I get it. But let's be honest for a second and don't make this about me.
Then how about offering up some proof that the hordes of people who have left due to the horrible treatment by the wicked militant objectivists actually left for that reason and not simply through attrition.
It is pretty simple. Go on WBF and register. Then send a PM to Steve Williams. He used to go by obgyn here. Ask him why he left. Then pick the names of any other who post there and has an alias here but doesn't post. A few were mentioned by others already.
Have you contacted them?
Who is buried in Grant's tomb?
WBF was formed (and before it UHE Forum) precisely because folks left and needed a new home. I was approached to help create it due to my technical experience. Some of the immigrants there read the posts here and any time there is an argument, I get a lot of PMs from them on WBF and here, shaking their head saying how happy they are that they not having to put with the type of arguing the militant few put forth.
A significant % of them and can you provide the data that supports your claims. Until you can do that you are just another blow hard puffing up your chest, with a holier than thou attitude and nothing with which to support your claims other than anecdotal evidence. And the proof is this thread.
No, you are the blow puffing your chest
. You have no data whatsoever but are so sure you are right about these people leaving simply because you think you are right and I must be wrong. That is what I deal with. Here is a situation that is quite black and white. Folks left and left for good and are posting on a new forum created after their departure. Yet you are so confident that you are right. Even after telling you my first hand experience of this, you doubt it. So as I said, you put your gut feeling ahead of the facts. That is not being objective.