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post #31 of 349
9/14/11 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by abba1 View Post

There are a few sites that now list the 9800 as a pre-order...J&R being one of them. I talk to a sales rep yesterday and he said a couple of weeks and they should be in. We'll see.

Ya, I saw it on JR site. I just hope that when the TV is released to general market, the price is better than what it is currently listed for because I definitely don't want to pay $3K+ for a TV
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post #32 of 349
9/14/11 at 11:33am
Buydig has it for under 3K for preorder. Would like to wait & see if the problems with LW5600 & LW6500 are gone in this.
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post #33 of 349
9/14/11 at 1:45pm
Desperate for the old model, pre-nano? 3D? Not anymore - upgraded, or someone is lying!

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinia-55L...6033027&sr=1-1
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post #34 of 349
9/14/11 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Desperate for the old model, pre-nano?

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinia-55L...6033027&sr=1-1

What's the advantage of getting that model compared to LW9800 ?
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post #35 of 349
9/14/11 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by ajamils View Post

What's the advantage of getting that model compared to LW9800 ?

Depends how you like your 3D - 1080P Active or half that for Passive (Plus lines if you stand too close!) Heavy glasses versus light, Batteries or no Batteries. Haven't seen either yet, so that's about all I can input.
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post #36 of 349
9/15/11 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post
Desperate for the old model, pre-nano? 3D? Not anymore - upgraded, or someone is lying!

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinia-55L...6033027&sr=1-1
So LW9500 also uses Nano technology? I don't understand why LG would release the same TV with two different model numbers. Also, there is hardly any information about LW9500 compared to LW9800.
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post #37 of 349
9/15/11 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by VladimirGoshenko View Post
Actually. 55LW9500 is a passive TV. And it wasn't discontinued at all, it was re-released as the LW9800. They ARE the same TV. ALL LG models that begin with LW are passive models. Their ACTIVE LED line up begin with LX and their Plasma 3D line up begins with either PK or PZ depending on how new the TV is.

LG's TV IS FULL HD 3D Certified. They have been for a while. They might have had to have certain viewing situations in place however FULL HD 3D was achieved. On a second note, LG released a new firmware update for their TVs recently for their LW5600, and LW6500 models reconfiguring their 3D algorithm. I wont get into details but you can find out more about it with the link i post at the bottom. I actually have the LW9800, but its called the LW9500, i purchased it way before it was released as the LW9800 in South Korea. Once again, they are the EXACT same TV and THE best one I have ever seen. THX didn't certify this TV for no reason. The contrast ratio was all on point. The black levels were definitely plasma-territory and the brightness and 3D depth was awesome. They solved all the "light bleeding" problems people complained about in the previous series and put it all on the line with this TV.
Interesting. Now thinking back, I might be actually seeing the 55LX9500 in Fry's other than the LW. There is THX setting for day and night mode in that set.
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post #38 of 349
9/15/11 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by VladimirGoshenko View Post

Actually. 55LW9500 is a passive TV. And it wasn't discontinued at all, it was re-released as the LW9800. They ARE the same TV. ALL LG models that begin with LW are passive models. Their ACTIVE LED line up begin with LX and their Plasma 3D line up begins with either PK or PZ depending on how new the TV is.

LG's TV IS FULL HD 3D Certified. They have been for a while. They might have had to have certain viewing situations in place however FULL HD 3D was achieved. On a second note, LG released a new firmware update for their TVs recently for their LW5600, and LW6500 models reconfiguring their 3D algorithm. I wont get into details but you can find out more about it with the link i post at the bottom. I actually have the LW9800, but its called the LW9500, i purchased it way before it was released as the LW9800 in South Korea. Once again, they are the EXACT same TV and THE best one I have ever seen. THX didn't certify this TV for no reason. The contrast ratio was all on point. The black levels were definitely plasma-territory and the brightness and 3D depth was awesome. They solved all the "light bleeding" problems people complained about in the previous series and put it all on the line with this TV.

I don't think this is the case everywhere. Perhaps the LW9500 in South Korea is a passive display, but the one that was to be released in NA was active. See http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-34468423.html, for example.
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post #39 of 349
9/15/11 at 11:49pm
I tested 55lw9800 input lag.
in game mode, about 100ms!! *,.*
good bye my xbox~.
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post #40 of 349
9/16/11 at 7:32am
The 9500 models were active displays, designed before LG's decision to go passive with their LCD sets. They were produced in limited quantities and sold mainly on HSN as a daily special deal - with 3d disabled. People have since figured out how to enable 3D on these sets, but they do require active 3D glasses.

the 9800 models are the replacements - with passive 3D enabled out of the box.
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post #41 of 349
9/16/11 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

The 9500 models were active displays, designed before LG's decision to go passive with their LCD sets. They were produced in limited quantities and sold mainly on HSN as a daily special deal - with 3d disabled. People have since figured out how to enable 3D on these sets, but they do require active 3D glasses.

the 9800 models are the replacements - with passive 3D enabled out of the box.


Correct and in this thread we are interested in LW9800 (Passive 3D) with Nano technology and not LW9500
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post #42 of 349
9/16/11 at 12:45pm
I realize this is highly subjective with a whole lot of guesswork thrown in, but will the PQ of the 9800 series be THAT much better than the 5600 which has received a number of positive reviews?
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post #43 of 349
9/16/11 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by abba1 View Post

I realize this is highly subjective with a whole lot of guesswork thrown in, but will the PQ of the 9800 series be THAT much better than the 5600 which has received a number of positive reviews?

Nobody will know for sure until we get some PRO reviews but on paper it does look a lot better unit with better technology (Backlit instead of edge lit)
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post #44 of 349
9/16/11 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by VladimirGoshenko View Post

Actually. 55LW9500 is a passive TV. And it wasn't discontinued at all, it was re-released as the LW9800. They ARE the same TV. ALL LG models that begin with LW are passive models. Their ACTIVE LED line up begin with LX and their Plasma 3D line up begins with either PK or PZ depending on how new the TV is.

LG's TV IS FULL HD 3D Certified. They have been for a while. They might have had to have certain viewing situations in place however FULL HD 3D was achieved. On a second note, LG released a new firmware update for their TVs recently for their LW5600, and LW6500 models reconfiguring their 3D algorithm. I wont get into details but you can find out more about it with the link i post at the bottom. I actually have the LW9800, but its called the LW9500, i purchased it way before it was released as the LW9800 in South Korea. Once again, they are the EXACT same TV and THE best one I have ever seen. THX didn't certify this TV for no reason. The contrast ratio was all on point. The black levels were definitely plasma-territory and the brightness and 3D depth was awesome. They solved all the "light bleeding" problems people complained about in the previous series and put it all on the line with this TV.

"LG's TV IS FULL HD 3D Certified" Certified by who????

To be "Certified" it needs to meet a specification set by some organization that sets standards and procedures to test to those standards. As far as I know, there is no recognized organization that sets the standards for the term Full HD 3D in TVs (yes there may be a new one for Active glasses based on the new standards Panasonic, Xpand and others are working on). This is a common mistake that common use terms are taken as officially recognized terms when they are not. Even the term Full HD to mean 1080p is not an officially recognized term and is only a term created by manufacturers of flat panels when 1080p panels came out. This was to look better in promotions than 720p TVs and 1080p wobluated DLPs. Officially there is just HD TVs, ED TVs, and SD TVs.
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post #45 of 349
9/16/11 at 6:53pm
http://www.amazon.com/LG-55LW9800-55...6224295&sr=8-3
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post #46 of 349
9/18/11 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by GEP View Post

"LG's TV IS FULL HD 3D Certified" Certified by who????

To be "Certified" it needs to meet a specification set by some organization that sets standards and procedures to test to those standards. As far as I know, there is no recognized organization that sets the standards for the term Full HD 3D in TVs (yes there may be a new one for Active glasses based on the new standards Panasonic, Xpand and others are working on). This is a common mistake that common use terms are taken as officially recognized terms when they are not. Even the term Full HD to mean 1080p is not an officially recognized term and is only a term created by manufacturers of flat panels when 1080p panels came out. This was to look better in promotions than 720p TVs and 1080p wobluated DLPs. Officially there is just HD TVs, ED TVs, and SD TVs.

For what it's worth it has been certified by an official organisation as full hd 3d. Actually that goes for all the passive models of LG as certification came for the Cinema 3D technology(passive). Personally I do not find that the models I've seen so far are full hd as the horizontal lines are clearly visible from a fair distance from the TVs but it is "official". The standard is that your brain receives full 1080p information which it does, although each eye gets 540i.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-ci...1107131286.htm

http://www.i4u.com/47148/lg-cinema-3...it-not-full-hd
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post #47 of 349
9/18/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by elgriego View Post
For what it's worth it has been certified by an official organisation as full hd 3d. Actually that goes for all the passive models of LG as certification came for the Cinema 3D technology(passive). Personally I do not find that the models I've seen so far are full hd as the horizontal lines are clearly visible from a fair distance from the TVs but it is "official". The standard is that your brain receives full 1080p information which it does, although each eye gets 540i.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-ci...1107131286.htm

http://www.i4u.com/47148/lg-cinema-3...it-not-full-hd
Posting #37 above has a URL to go to that explains that the TVs have been modified and improved with new FW.
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post #48 of 349
9/18/11 at 1:05pm
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post20966749

Posting # 2805
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post #49 of 349
9/18/11 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

http://www.amazon.com/LG-55LW9800-55...6224295&sr=8-3

It would appear that the price could come down rapidly if there is sufficient supply:

http://www.xp-electronics.com/produc...ventoryID=1028

Amazon says 1 to 2 months away, but this place has it in stock.

If anyone is in Nashua, NH, they might give it a try. I'm pretty sure Amazon is an authorized dealer; not too certain about XP Electronics.

Me, I'm going to wait for the 65LW9800.
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post #50 of 349
9/19/11 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post
What is this have to do with the tv discussion?
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post #51 of 349
9/19/11 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by ajamils View Post
What is this have to do with the tv discussion?
This will enhance the PQ of your LG, and allow easier calibration of the set. Just letting those who are interested know about a Super deal that you may never see again, especially for any fence sitters who have eyeing and itching to buy the iScanDuo: but not at the high prices it's been advertised at.
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post #52 of 349
9/19/11 at 10:20am
Cycoild...just for the fun of it I did call XP Electronics. They do NOT have the 9800 in stock. Like most other vendors they expect it to arrive in a couple of weeks
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post #53 of 349
9/19/11 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by abba1 View Post

Cycoild...just for the fun of it I did call XP Electronics. They do NOT have the 9800 in stock. Like most other vendors they expect it to arrive in a couple of weeks

The Availability on their website should state - Eventually in Stock - not the current reading of In Stock - False Advertising?
Bet they tried to get you to Pre-Order while you were on the phone?
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post #54 of 349
9/19/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

The Availability on their website should state - Eventually in Stock - not the current reading of In Stock - False Advertising?
Bet they tried to get you to Pre-Order while you were on the phone?

Yep!
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post #55 of 349
9/19/11 at 2:39pm
Always a good sign when a retailer starts out the relationship with an out and out lie.

Let's you know what you can expect down the line.
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post #56 of 349
9/19/11 at 6:47pm
This is the `New Must have TV' set?
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post #57 of 349
9/20/11 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Posting #37 above has a URL to go to that explains that the TVs have been modified and improved with new FW.

Yes, I ve read all about it the moment it came out. Doesn't change the fact that the passive grid is hardware and when you wear the 3d glasses each eye will still get a 540i data no matter what the fw can do and no matter how well it can trick the brain, the lines will stil be visible, although reduced.

Nevertheless that is still subjective as i have talked to people that say they couldn't see the lines that i clearly could so it is more how your brain perceive and mixes the 2x540i pictures it receives.
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post #58 of 349
9/20/11 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by elgriego View Post

Yes, I ve read all about it the moment it came out. Doesn't change the fact that the passive grid is hardware and when you wear the 3d glasses each eye will still get a 540i data no matter what the fw can do and no matter how well it can trick the brain, the lines will stil be visible, although reduced.

Nevertheless that is still subjective as i have talked to people that say they couldn't see the lines that i clearly could so it is more how your brain perceive and mixes the 2x540i pictures it receives.

Instead of 2 bigger lines, there are now 4 smaller lines. Will be harder to detect. They also state this will now give 1080i per eye, to end up with 1080P. Since this new technology hasn't been released yet, how can you say you can see the lines?
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post #59 of 349
9/20/11 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Instead of 2 bigger lines, there are now 4 smaller lines. Will be harder to detect. They also state this will now give 1080i per eye, to end up with 1080P. Since this new technology hasn't been released yet, how can you say you can see the lines?

I don't get what you're saying. For passive to work the horizontal grid lines of the hardware film have to be 1 pixel wide otherwise there is crosstalk up the ying yang. therefore 1080 lines half of which the glasses make black leaves 540 vertical resolution to each eye. Are you talking about some unavailable display with 2160 vertical resolution?
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post #60 of 349
9/20/11 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by elgriego View Post


Yes, I ve read all about it the moment it came out. Doesn't change the fact that the passive grid is hardware and when you wear the 3d glasses each eye will still get a 540i data no matter what the fw can do and no matter how well it can trick the brain, the lines will stil be visible, although reduced.

Nevertheless that is still subjective as i have talked to people that say they couldn't see the lines that i clearly could so it is more how your brain perceive and mixes the 2x540i pictures it receives.

Yeah but there isn't a difference between vertical pixels in the left and right eye of a 3d image.
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