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post #181 of 3213
Mark. I checked with UPS.
You were right.
3 days to Alabama.
post #182 of 3213
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by browerjs View Post

Yea I saw that... I was trying to find a pdf of the product manual. I'm guessing it doesn't exist.

Owners Manual (also linked in the OP).
post #183 of 3213
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Mark. I checked with UPS.
You were right.
3 days to Alabama.

what part Of Alabama? If your close id like to demo it?
post #184 of 3213
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post


what part Of Alabama? If your close id like to demo it?

Just south of Birmingham.
post #185 of 3213
let's sell Kutlow an HW30.. a theater without a projector is a sad thing.

I wish the Sony glasses were readily available. I need at least 2 more.
post #186 of 3213
I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?
post #187 of 3213
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

let's sell Kutlow an HW30.. a theater without a projector is a sad thing.

I wish the Sony glasses were readily available. I need at least 2 more.

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.
post #188 of 3213
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Originally Posted by rgathright View Post

I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?

There are 3 alternative that I can see at this price range. The Panasonic LCD, the Mitsubishi HC7800 and the Optoma 8300HD. (Both 3D 1080P DLP w/ lens shift).

The Sony received early raves from Kraine and Cine4home, plus ball-busting enthusiasts like myself and a few other early adopters. The price, including the 3D emitter + 2 glasses hit the 'impulse' buy for a bunch of folks. I demo'd it to a friend the other night and he had to order one right away. He almost spent the same $$ on a 65" TV before seeing the Sony.

with that said, I am still curious to see how the Panasonic and the 2 DLP's perform. The DLP's should be near perfect for ghost-free SBS and Xbox 360 3D SBS.
post #189 of 3213
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.

it comes with the 3D emitter and glasses.. comon, you have to at least try it! If not, sell me the glasses ASAP.

ps. Long live the HP screen!
post #190 of 3213
I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.
post #191 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

Cough cough......dust blobs.

Had on on my Epson. I will never go LCD again no matter what great features it might have.
post #192 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

The one thing I wasn't sure of in the review was if it was comparing it to the HW30 or not... Guess we'll have to wait for the shootout...
post #193 of 3213
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post


it comes with the 3D emitter and glasses.. comon, you have to at least try it! If not, sell me the glasses ASAP.

ps. Long live the HP screen!

How much?
post #194 of 3213
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Cough cough......dust blobs.

Had on on my Epson. I will never go LCD again no matter what great features it might have.

yeah, I forgot about dust blobs. Just got one on my Pro8100. I hate it !!
post #195 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

...even though their "preferred viewing mode" only gives 526 lumens - and with lamp at high and minimum zoom!

Evan Powell hyping Panasonic. What else is new.
post #196 of 3213
Well, the "Normal" mode, which always had very acceptable colours in previous Pana models, is up to 1300 lumens. Should be great for 3D!
post #197 of 3213
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

There are 3 alternative that I can see at this price range. The Panasonic LCD, the Mitsubishi HC7800 and the Optoma 8300HD. (Both 3D 1080P DLP w/ lens shift).

Zombie,
Do you not include the JVC because it is a bit higher price point?

I have been following these threads and your reviews and I was wondering:

What new features/improvements (if any) do you think JVC has to do to the RS40 to arguably retain "Best overall projector under $5K"? Let's assume that the bulb issue was a "save a buck" mistake, lesson learned, fixed, move on and the RS40 doesn't have CMS so no issues there. From your posts it sounds like you think the Sony is a better overall projector than the RS40 for the features/qualities you value. Others may have a different opinion.
post #198 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

I am trying not to be offensive to PC, but that is NO review imo. It's a subjective mix of opinion and marketing info. There are zero measurements (beside lumens) to validate any of the claims. I want to see ON/OFF, ANSI, Gray scale (out of the box) and Primary and secondary color measurements. That's a real review in my opinion.

I would wait for Kraine or Cine4home to post their impressions. They tell it like it is (good or bad) and have the factual measurements to back up their claims.

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Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey View Post

Zombie,
Do you not include the JVC because it is a bit higher price point?

I have been following these threads and your reviews and I was wondering:

What new features/improvements (if any) do you think JVC has to do to the RS40 to arguably retain "Best overall projector under $5K"? Let's assume that the bulb issue was a "save a buck" mistake, lesson learned, fixed, move on and the RS40 doesn't have CMS so no issues there. From your posts it sounds like you think the Sony is a better overall projector than the RS40 for the features/qualities you value. Others may have a different opinion.

Chuck, I can't say much publicly, but imo, JVC isn't interested in hearing from their customers.

I can't recommend the current RS40 for the lamp issues alone. I will say that I liked my RS40 better than the RS50. The color was better out of the box and brighter as well.

They would have to prove themselves with a rock solid lamp, increase the refresh rates of the panels, find a way to reduce the warm up time for watching 3D (a known issue agree upon by most owners), reduce ghosting as the lamp ages, program a quality FI in 3D mode, etc.

it's a shame because it has some very nice virtues as well, but I have to look at the entire 'package' which imo at this time, the Sony trumps the JVC (with it's current version). Hopefully they are listening and will make a big improvement with the 2.0 product in the late fall.
post #199 of 3213
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.

That would be nice. Then you could demo my pro audio Theater. I have a complete Danley Sound Labs Speaker system with Crest Pro Audio Amps.

2 Danley Sh50 Flagship Speakers used as RF LF




1 Danley SH69 Center Channel



3 Danley DTS -10 Subwoofers


4 Danley SH100C Surrounds






2 Crest Pro 9200 Amps to power the 3 DTS 10 SUBS. Not shown in this pic is 3 Crest Pro 8200 used to power LF,RF,Side and rear surrounds


1 Marants Av 7500 Processor


Here is the RS40 That I had
post #200 of 3213
Please remember some of us may be checking this thread on a phone looking for HW30 info!
post #201 of 3213
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
post #202 of 3213
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Originally Posted by nestor87 View Post
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
uuhhh ooo a bug..call Orkin
post #203 of 3213
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Originally Posted by rgathright View Post
I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?
I am a bit surprised as well to be honest. Sounds like the Sony is one nice projector, but Cedia is right around the corner. I am not buying anything until I hear about the RS40 replacement as well as whatever else will be released in the next few months or so. One thing is for sure.......this year is a MUCH harder decision than last as far as the under 5k 3d projector market is concerned! Lots of good options to consider.

Kutlow,

Can I come over? I would LOVE to hear your audio setup!
post #204 of 3213
nestor87 -- You have vertical lens shift on the Sony!!! Level your HW30 and use the lens shift to square up the image.

I can understand your overlooking that feature, since your HD80 had a fixed offset.
post #205 of 3213
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Originally Posted by kutlow

uuhhh ooo a bug..call Orkin
Can any owners weigh in on whether this is normal? Should I be seeking an exchange?
post #206 of 3213
Have you tried adjusting the lens shift as suggested?
post #207 of 3213
Kutlow. Quit trying to be funny. We are in proper mechanical set up mode and nowhere where one can conclude there is an optical defect.

Walls are not always at a perfect 90 degrees to the ceiling or floor. One must make the surface of the projector lens parallel to the screen surface. Put up a white full screen and zoom the image down to a little smaller than the screen viewing surface and adjust the mount to put up a rectangle that parallels the respective screen edges. Use the lens shift to center the image rectangle as needed. Call me if you have questions.
post #208 of 3213
Am I understanding this right that in 2D or 3D There is NOT a vertical stretch option in the Sony HW30 Menue for those of us that use a external Anamorphic Lens for 2.40 scope? The JVC RS40 will vertical stretch in 2D but not 3D.
post #209 of 3213
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Originally Posted by nestor87 View Post
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
Nestor, I found it was necessary to angle the projector downward (i.e. down at the front) very slightly from flat to get the picture totally square without keystoning. This was necessary with the VW50 too. My projector is ceiling mounted about 11ft from the screen, and maybe 12-15" above it. The screen and the ceiling are very vertical and horizontal.
post #210 of 3213
I noticed a few people posting in the GA area (Atlanta specifically) you are welcome to drop by for a quicking viewing if you would like if it will help you make a decision, just PM me to setup a time/date.

Kut - You are my hero, I want the exact setup you have I have JBL Pro cinema speakers all the way around for a 9.2 setup, 2 DTS-10's, and 2 custom-built 18" MBM's but I know the Danley stuff would kill it.
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