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post #2851 of 3212
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

No professional mounter would EVER use a level on the projector. You hang the screen and put a level on top of the frame to make sure it is horizontally level. That's it. Put the level away.
You tilt the projector up or down to make the top and bottom of the rectangle the same length. You bank the projector left or right to make the top edge parallel to the frame. You zoom the picture in a bit to se the projected edges a little inside of the frame and then zoom out later. If the side edges are tiltedyou need to rotate the projector so they are no longer tilted. As stated above, you are making the lens pasrallel horizontally by this rotation. both sides of the lens will now be the same distance from the screen. Titlting the projector up down does the same for the top and bottom of the lens. Obviously to center the whole rectangle you will probably need to use some lens shift vertically. try not to mount the projector any higher than lens center at top of viewing screen height. Try not to use horizontal lens shift y mounting the lens center in the horizontal screen center. If you don't understand all this, please give me a call tomorrow morning.
The reason no levels are used is that your wall is probably not exactly level vertically or even square to the side walls. You are adjusting the projector orientation to msake the lens exactly parallel to the plane of the screen.



Thanks for this Posts (you and "TOKNOWSHITA") helped me to research some more. I found a thread on AVS that perfectly explained my problem, with Pics.... Here it is just incase anyone else ever has this problem... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1286820/uneven-screen-image-from-projector



What I found out was that my wall and house itself is not perfectly straight/Level (even though everything was perfectly perpendicular, the projector to the screen and vis-versa). I fixed this problem by moving my projector 3 to 4 inches to the left of center of screen, and then using Lens Shift! IT WORKED! Picture is perfect Box to screen now! smile.gif


I should have put 2 and 2 together knowing this from hanging a ton of pictures in my house, I could never use a level, always have to go by eye, because if I used a level the Picture always looked crooked/slanted on the wall.


.........Quick QUESTION my FRIENDS...


Does anyone know where to find TOM's Calibrations on the HW30??? I looked everywhere and cannot find them. frown.gif I did find a review of the HW30 that had calibrations from a reviewer named Matt, but I'd prefer to have TOM's Cal's as I have heard great things about em.


Again, thanks my friends for all your help!!! Everyone who has helped me has takin hours out of my schedule to relax and enjoy life! smile.gif Thanks Again




Paul
post #2852 of 3212
^^ sort of what I said in my post ; I was just more 'succinct'.
post #2853 of 3212
Update guys:

I still have (2) pairs of MonsterVision glasses still available (glasses and charging cable only, no emitter).

Thanks!
post #2854 of 3212
Just my 2 cents.
I have been using the Monster's Glasses for 3 months. Its picture quality is good. It is better than the Sony original glasses. Also better than the Xpand unit. However, it lacks the built quality. Some edges will even cut your finger. In additions, its battery run out fast. On the hand hand, I haven't notice the buzzing noise so far.
Thanks.
post #2855 of 3212
I started noticing this about a month ago... I'm seeing a yellow haze/discoloration mostly along the right side of the projected image. Has anyone else experienced this? It's most noticeable on a white screen, but I do see it often during normal viewing.

I'm attaching an image. It's harder to see in the picture, but it's most noticeable in the lower right, but extends up the side. Kinda like a blob of light yellow is discoloring things.
post #2856 of 3212
Is MacMall.com a good place to purchase this unit from?
post #2857 of 3212
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Originally Posted by swirl54 View Post

Is MacMall.com a good place to purchase this unit from?
Why not contact AVS?
post #2858 of 3212
Can an RF 3D emitter be plugged directly into the HW30? Or would one need to make an IR -> RF (or vice versa) adapter?
post #2859 of 3212
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Update guys:
I still have (2) pairs of MonsterVision glasses still available (glasses and charging cable only, no emitter).
Thanks!

Still have the two pairs for sale, $45 each.

Here is the link to my Amazon store page where the glasses are for sale
post #2860 of 3212
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Originally Posted by KMR View Post

Can an RF 3D emitter be plugged directly into the HW30? Or would one need to make an IR -> RF (or vice versa) adapter?



The Hw30 does have an IR port (the port says IR on it and my MonsterVision emitter plug fits in it), but I cant seem to figure out how the MonsterVision glasses could work with it, as the Hw30 has no USB port so there is NO way possible to connect both the emitter and the power-source for the emitter (IR Reveiver) into it, plus the MosterVision emitter needs to be pluged into the IR Receiver that comes with it, cant be plugged directly into the HW30. Also, from all the professional reviews I read, it's best to place the Sony emitter (that comes with the HW30 for 3D) above the screen. The MonsterVision emitter could not find the single to the sony emitter unless I was about 3 feet from the screen, so I had to use the PlayStation 3 as the USB Power source, and place it close to the screen inorder to get a connection between the Sony emitter and the Monstervision emitter. I literally just set all this up a couple hours ago, so alot of work to do yet, but the 3D is KILLER!


My only problem with the MonsterVision glasses is I noticed the shutter speed from the second I put them on (same with the Sony glasses that came with the HW30), its a tad bit bothersome, I'm wondering if a firmwear update can help fix this or make it atleast better, or if the placement of the emitters have anything to do with it? I still have a lot of tweeking to do with my set-up, so I'll let you guys know how it goes. If anyone can help me on this go rite ahead and shoot for it.


BTW no buzzing noise from the glasses from the couple hours I was able to spend with them, and I had the sound off on my speaker system as my family is sleeping, I'm sure I would have heard it if there was buzzing.



Thx guys smile.gif


Ether
Edited by EtherMagic - 1/7/13 at 5:14am
post #2861 of 3212
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Originally Posted by EtherMagic View Post

The Hw30 does have an IR port (the port says IR on it and my MonsterVision emitter plug fits in it), but I cant seem to figure out how the MonsterVision glasses could work with it...

The IR port on the HW30 is for IR "input". It receives commands from your remote if you have the appropriate gadgets. It's not for "outputting" IR for 3D or any other feature.
post #2862 of 3212
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Originally Posted by NNate View Post

I started noticing this about a month ago... I'm seeing a yellow haze/discoloration mostly along the right side of the projected image. Has anyone else experienced this? It's most noticeable on a white screen, but I do see it often during normal viewing.
I'm attaching an image. It's harder to see in the picture, but it's most noticeable in the lower right, but extends up the side. Kinda like a blob of light yellow is discoloring things.


Where is your set-up located? If it's in a basement enviornment (or simply in a very humid space) I would guess it's humidity damage to your screen. If I am seeing this correctly the yellow is on the right side of the screen moving upwards? I have my set-up in my basement (beautiful theater basement btw! lol) and it can get down-right ugly as far as humidity, especially in the summer. I have one dehumidifier going all night and day right now, and I will be getting a second one shortly. The dehumidifier I do have fills up with about 2 gallons of water every 4 days or so (it's winter and I am in Chicago), but in the summer it will fill up with them same 2 gallons in about a day and a half.


I worry about my screen and the humidity, just going to be on the safe side and get a second dehumidifier come spring time.


I hope this is not your problem, just simply expressing my worries with mine, but it does look like what I would envision as humidity damage. Hope i'm wrong.




Ether
post #2863 of 3212
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Originally Posted by NNate View Post

I started noticing this about a month ago... I'm seeing a yellow haze/discoloration mostly along the right side of the projected image. Has anyone else experienced this? It's most noticeable on a white screen, but I do see it often during normal viewing.
I'm attaching an image. It's harder to see in the picture, but it's most noticeable in the lower right, but extends up the side. Kinda like a blob of light yellow is discoloring things.

Does the yellow switch sides if you turn your projector over (ceiling mount vs. shelf mount)? If so, that's a sure sign it's from the projector and not some aspect of the screen.

If the issue follows the projector, yours may have some damage to the polarizer --- at least I believe I've heard these are related. Looking at the bright side, your HW30 is definitely still under warranty.
post #2864 of 3212
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

The IR port on the HW30 is for IR "input". It receives commands from your remote if you have the appropriate gadgets. It's not for "outputting" IR for 3D or any other feature.



There you go, I was wondering what in the world it could be used for as I seen no use for it when setting up 3D. That explains a lot, as my projector remote would not work while I had the monstervision Emitter plugged into it! lol tongue.gif We live and we learn smile.gif



Thx for the knowledge brother smile.gif



Ether
post #2865 of 3212
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Originally Posted by KMR View Post

Can an RF 3D emitter be plugged directly into the HW30? Or would one need to make an IR -> RF (or vice versa) adapter?



Here's a quote I found that may help as far as modifying as to what you are talking about. Simply contact this member of the forum if you are interested....

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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,
I finally bit the bullet and bought 3 pairs of the MonsterVision Max 3D glasses for my Sony VPL-HW30ES projector. I also had a gentleman on these forums make a custom cable that allows the MonsterVision RF module hook directly into the 3D port on the Sony projector (thereby bypassing the need for the stock Sony IR Emitter, and also allowing the Sony projector to provide direct power to the RF module)




Ether
post #2866 of 3212
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Originally Posted by ScoHo View Post

Does anyone ever hear a buzzing sound coming from their MonsterVision glasses? Very subtle, and I only notice it during silent scenes.



This thread talks all about the buzzing sound you are hearing, many mention it....


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1322752/official-monster-vision-max-3d-thread/780



Hope this helped smile.gif



Ether
post #2867 of 3212
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Does the yellow switch sides if you turn your projector over (ceiling mount vs. shelf mount)? If so, that's a sure sign it's from the projector and not some aspect of the screen.
If the issue follows the projector, yours may have some damage to the polarizer --- at least I believe I've heard these are related. Looking at the bright side, your HW30 is definitely still under warranty.

That's a good question. It's shelf mounted currently. I wonder how I can safely flip it over and turn it on. Probably not a good idea to just lay it on the shelf upside down...

I don't think it's humidity damage. It's winter up here in MN and very dry inside. I'm getting static shocks all the time. Humidity is < 17% according to my thermostat. The screen is only a month or two old as well.

Yes, the yellow is in the bottom right of the image and extends up the right side.
post #2868 of 3212
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Originally Posted by NNate View Post

That's a good question. It's shelf mounted currently. I wonder how I can safely flip it over and turn it on. Probably not a good idea to just lay it on the shelf upside down...
I don't think it's humidity damage. It's winter up here in MN and very dry inside. I'm getting static shocks all the time. Humidity is < 17% according to my thermostat. The screen is only a month or two old as well.
Yes, the yellow is in the bottom right of the image and extends up the right side.

I wouldn't worry about setting it upside down for a short amount of time. You only need to run it this way long enough to run your test pattern. Find a fluffy pillow that keeps it from wobbling and lay it on that. Just make sure the vents are not covered.
post #2869 of 3212
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Originally Posted by NNate View Post

That's a good question. It's shelf mounted currently. I wonder how I can safely flip it over and turn it on. Probably not a good idea to just lay it on the shelf upside down...
Might be easier to move the screen. Does the yellow blog stay in the same place relative to the wall? If so, probably the projector.
post #2870 of 3212
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

Might be easier to move the screen. Does the yellow blog stay in the same place relative to the wall? If so, probably the projector.

Or just hold a sheet of white paper in front of the "yellow" area. :-)

I had this happen with my old Sony HS10 when the polarizer went, but that was an LCD, somewhat common for that to happen. Haven't read about it happening with LCOS projectors.
post #2871 of 3212
Sony had lots of issues with their SXRD rear-projection issues back in 2005. Google 'SXRD Green Blob'. Some of the pics I saw look like what I have going on (albeit to a much worse extent). Owners had to replace their optical blocks. It sounds like they've mostly fixed this problem by now as you don't hear about it anymore.

I'll experiment some more. I think using a piece of paper will be my first course of action. Will post back with my findings.
post #2872 of 3212
NNate-- just have someone move the screen slightly if it's at all movable. If the pattern moves with the screen, you'll know it's the projector. Alternatively, have someone just move the projector back & forth, side-to-side, a little bit. If the pattern follows the projector movement, it's the projector. Much simpler than turning your whole projector upside down smile.gif
post #2873 of 3212
OK, I completely took my screen out of the equation. It's an HP 2.4, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't getting any hotspotting - just in case (although I've never noticed any in the past)

I held a piece of paper in front of the light stream coming out of the lens - arms length away standing next to the projector. I was able to see the yellow spot on the paper as I moved it around.

I guess I need to contact Sony...
post #2874 of 3212
I contacted Sony this morning. The phone support rep going to forward off the image to the engineers to figure out what's going on. I asked the support rep if he's heard of this before and he said that he hasn't. Hopefully the engineers will be able to give me some answers.
post #2875 of 3212
Please keep us updated. I'm interested to hear what the issue turns out to be as well as how Sony treats you.
post #2876 of 3212
Will do. Hopefully I hear back today, but with CES going on, the rep wasn't sure if the engineers would be around.
post #2877 of 3212
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Originally Posted by NNate View Post

I contacted Sony this morning. The phone support rep going to forward off the image to the engineers to figure out what's going on. I asked the support rep if he's heard of this before and he said that he hasn't. Hopefully the engineers will be able to give me some answers.

I'm willing to bet the problem is due to deterioration of the blue light-path polarizing film.
post #2878 of 3212
I recommend against it. I tried my purchase on 12/30 (ebay) and with 27 listed in stock they sent me a note saying they were out and I would need to wait. I did get a full refund today though, and they were staffed for customer service really well.
post #2879 of 3212
Sony gave me a work order number. I need to ship it down to their Laredo, TX repair facility. Kinda sucks that I both need to pay to ship it to them AND I have to be without a projector for probably 2 weeks (shipping time to them and then around 7 days until I get it back repaired). We're getting close to the SuperBowl here...

Maybe if I put up more of a fuss they'll be more accommodating??

When my old Samsung DLP RPTV went out they sent a technician out to my house the next day.

I didn't ask what they thought the problem was. Maybe I'll have to call them back to figure that out if the curiosity gets the better of me. The engineer that support talked to agreed there was a problem after seeing the picture.
post #2880 of 3212
It'd be really lame if you have to pay for shipping when it's still under warranty... is yours still under warranty? How long have you owned it? I'm assuming it has to still be under warranty, since this projector was announced in 2011, right?

How many hours do you think you've put on it? An optical block failure this soon is concerning...
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