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post #2971 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Gatts_2a View Post

Hello,

I'm a happy new owner of this projector, but I have one question for experts :
How can I reset the lens-shift please?
The projector is mounted on ceiling and for my comfort I nearly maxed vertical lens-shift.
I've been told that the lens-shift could alterate global picture quality. I would like to test it and maybe to inclinate the projector instead of playing with the lens-shift.
Could you help me please?

I thank you in advance.
Have a nice day.

In addition to what was already responded...

There is no way to "reset" the lens-shift. By this I'm assuming you mean "exact return the lens to the center". The HW30 simply doesn't have a mark to indicate that location. You can get pretty close by adjusting it to one extreme and then adjusting it to the other extreme, counting how much rolled the knob and then doing it half that much in the opposite direction.

BTW, I did a BUNCH of experiments with the lens on my HW30. I found that projecting in the center was actually worse, IMHO. The HW30 isn't consistent end to end and you shouldn't assume the inconsistencies are toward the edges. In my case, I got the best (sharpest) image at my zoom with a fair amount of vertical shift. This moved the inconsistency to the left side of the screen. When I used a straight projection, I found some lens inconsistency more in the center of the screen.
post #2972 of 3213
Thank you very much four your fast answers.
I'll make my tests.
I found that my picture actually lact a little of sharpness.
I don't have calibrated my projector even with a disc to set brightness and contrast.
I think I will download avs hd 709 patterns first and try to calibrate it properly without any probe.

Thank you for your help.
post #2973 of 3213
Has anyone replaced their lamp yet? I just realized that the red message I was getting was not the 'clean filter' message but replace the lamp! I accidentally reset the lamp timer so I don't know where I was w/the # of hours on the lamp.
It's the original lamp I got with the projector and it's been over a year (I believe) and a couple thousand hours.
I'm still using the lamp and looking to buy a new one so I dont end up with having no picture at some point.
Just wondering if any one else has had to replace their lamp yet and how many hours they replaced it at and did they wait until the color changed or the lamp died before changing it out.
post #2974 of 3213
Sony ps3 glasses for only $20 each.

http://www.dailysteals.com/

I have two of these now and they work fine with the hw30. No filters necessary. For $20 bucks they are a steal. FYI, they recharge off small USB chords instead of a wall charger.
post #2975 of 3213
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Originally Posted by sharp360 View Post

Sony ps3 glasses for only $20 each.

http://www.dailysteals.com/

I have two of these now and they work fine with the hw30. No filters necessary. For $20 bucks they are a steal. FYI, they recharge off small USB chords instead of a wall charger.

I have 4 pairs of the ones 'dedicated' to this projector HW30 - how does this feel comfortably-wise?
I ask since the normal ones get uncomfortable on the bridge of the nose after a while (heavy).
post #2976 of 3213
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Originally Posted by sharp360 View Post

Sony ps3 glasses for only $20 each.

http://www.dailysteals.com/

I have two of these now and they work fine with the hw30. No filters necessary. For $20 bucks they are a steal. FYI, they recharge off small USB chords instead of a wall charger.

Thanks for sharing! Placed an order. You get 2 pairs for $20! Great to have as a backup or when extra people show up. I recall they aren't quite as good (picture wise) as the hw30 ones, but at $10 a pair... No brainier!
post #2977 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

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Originally Posted by sharp360 View Post

Sony ps3 glasses for only $20 each.

http://www.dailysteals.com/

I have two of these now and they work fine with the hw30. No filters necessary. For $20 bucks they are a steal. FYI, they recharge off small USB chords instead of a wall charger.

I have 4 pairs of the ones 'dedicated' to this projector HW30 - how does this feel comfortably-wise?
I ask since the normal ones get uncomfortable on the bridge of the nose after a while (heavy).

I don't know about these ps3 ones, but I 100% agree the official ones bother my nose after a bit.
post #2978 of 3213
Couple of comments after setting up the projector and few movies. Distance to the screen is roughly 4.3m from the lens. Projector stands on it's own feet close to ceiling (roughly at 2.7m) so quite much vertical lens shifting is needed. Horizontally it is at the middle of the screen. Screen (1.0g) size is ~122inch (2.7m wide) and it is a tilted a bit (bottom is around 10cm closer to viewer than top of the screen) to get better geometry (not perfect). Otherwise the size is spot on to my liking.

PQ is pretty good. In the middle (vertically) the image is not as sharp as it is at top and bottom. Black is quite nice. The room itself should be more darker (gray walls and ceiling, dark brown floor) to improve the situation but it's pretty good. Dynamic iris seemed quite nice in the beginning but quite soon it started to irritate because the whole picture changed too much when the iris got changed.

Played also a bit with 3D but I don't like it. Technically it works. Ocean 3D actually looks good but Avatar, Dredd, Cars 2 and couple of other movies which I played for short periods didn't bring much to the movie. Start of the Dredd was very nice but after the opening panning of the city the 3D didn't give added value to me. Actually the 3D made me loose the focus on the movie itself as I was focusing in 3D aspects of the movie. And subtitles themselves were causing severe problems - not technically that much but when looking at 3D picture where subtitles are somewhere in Z-depth caused continuous focus searching between movie itself and subtitles. Well, I tried 3D with Panasonic TV before buying the projector and was not convinced about it then (again, not the technical implementation or quality but the added value it brings - or in my case tries to bring to movie) thus this was not a deciding factor when choosing the projector. Earlier I watched Cars 2 in movie theater in 3D and was not convinced of it back then either. So, I'll keep on waiting proper holodeck smile.gif

Noise part of the projector is pretty OK. It's not silent but it doesn't disturb either. Lamp is in high mode. High is mandatory to get bright enough picture for my taste.

So, all in all I'm happy to have this projector - which is my first one. Oh, and no heat issues after those cards were changed.

Previously I've been watching movies from PC/Laptop (24"/15") and TV (32" to 50"). It was interesting to find out from the same movies how much more there is to see when the picture size is much bigger. Some flicks tend to become almost new movies to me tongue.gif
post #2979 of 3213
Why did you tilt the screen bottom toward the viewers? That will further increase the perception of looking at a trapezoid. Did you run out of vertical shift?
post #2980 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Has anyone replaced their lamp yet? I just realized that the red message I was getting was not the 'clean filter' message but replace the lamp! I accidentally reset the lamp timer so I don't know where I was w/the # of hours on the lamp.
It's the original lamp I got with the projector and it's been over a year (I believe) and a couple thousand hours.
I'm still using the lamp and looking to buy a new one so I dont end up with having no picture at some point.
Just wondering if any one else has had to replace their lamp yet and how many hours they replaced it at and did they wait until the color changed or the lamp died before changing it out.

No one?! ANYone?!
post #2981 of 3213
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post


So I guess the "S" in MSRP is getting thrown out the window? I guess as consumers we'll have to vote with our wallets. I'd love to be able to buy one this month, but I'm 6-8 months out before I can use it and would rather not have it sitting and collecting dust. If the price is MSRP when it comes time to buy - perhaps I'll get the Epson instead.

LOL! Given that I just bought a brand new 95ES from a Sony dealer for 50% off MSRP, I would say this "rule" was useless.
post #2982 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Fat Dave View Post

Why did you tilt the screen bottom toward the viewers? That will further increase the perception of looking at a trapezoid. Did you run out of vertical shift?

Vertical shift was enough (far from being insufficient) but there was geometric error in the picture - not really bad but some. The picture was little wider at the top than at the bottom. By tilting the screen a bit I was able to compensate most of the incorrectness. Without tilting I would have to use keystone correction. Haven't actually verified but I think it is digital - not optical i.e. reduces the picture quality unnecessarily.

Maybe tilting of the projector a bit would solve the problem.. lifting the back upwards a bit - just a little bit.
post #2983 of 3213
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Originally Posted by paju View Post

Vertical shift was enough (far from being insufficient) but there was geometric error in the picture - not really bad but some. The picture was little wider at the top than at the bottom. By tilting the screen a bit I was able to compensate most of the incorrectness. Without tilting I would have to use keystone correction. Haven't actually verified but I think it is digital - not optical i.e. reduces the picture quality unnecessarily.

Maybe tilting of the projector a bit would solve the problem.. lifting the back upwards a bit - just a little bit.

That's interesting... I have a hw50es and had the same residual geometry error. My screen and projector are level, according to measurements. My solution was to slightly tilt the projector up until it looked correct.
post #2984 of 3213
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharp360 View Post

Sony ps3 glasses for only $20 each.

http://www.dailysteals.com/

I have two of these now and they work fine with the hw30. No filters necessary. For $20 bucks they are a steal. FYI, they recharge off small USB chords instead of a wall charger.

Thanks for sharing! Placed an order. You get 2 pairs for $20! Great to have as a backup or when extra people show up. I recall they aren't quite as good (picture wise) as the hw30 ones, but at $10 a pair... No brainier!

Arrived in mail today... Look new, came in generic box. Includes charging cable and soft case for each. Wasn't able to try them out.
post #2985 of 3213
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Arrived in mail today... Look new, came in generic box. Includes charging cable and soft case for each. Wasn't able to try them out.
Ahh, that must be who CHAOS COMMERCE INC. is...received a UPS notice the other day, but couldn't figure out who the shipper was and Dailysteals didn't list a tracking #. Great timing as we're having family down this weekend!
post #2986 of 3213
Same here! I have had mine for over a year and just starting noticing the flicker in bright scenes. I have always ran my lamp on high. Anybody else? More suggestions?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Scbaird View Post

Anyone ever notice a flicker in really bright scenes? It just started on mine..... It only happens with 1080p material. I have had it for almost a year. Not sure if it is the bulb or a HDMI problem? Any suggestions before buying a new bulb...
post #2987 of 3213
Not seeing it here. May be useful to post bulb hours.
post #2988 of 3213
Will do hopefully tonight along with my settings. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Not seeing it here. May be useful to post bulb hours.
post #2989 of 3213
Looking to get a replacement lamp. I just installed a 137 in screen and I think the lumens may be lacking. Ballpark seems to be $300. Anyone know of any cheaper sites please PM me.
I have 1300 hours on my lamp and haven't noticed any flicker yet.
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post #2991 of 3213
The price of these lamps seems to fluctuate a lot. You might want to check AV Science as well.
post #2992 of 3213
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Originally Posted by ScoHo View Post

The price of these lamps seems to fluctuate a lot. You might want to check AV Science as well.

+1

I would just call avs and be done with it. At a minimum you know you are getting the real thing.
post #2993 of 3213
My concern is getting a full OEM vs one that has just the OEM bulb and a different housing. I just bought a lamp for our DLP Toshiba TV and it said "OEM" but when I took it out of the box I could quickly see the housing was NOT OEM (bulb not fully contained so if the bulb blew [like the last one] it would send shards all inside the TV and ruin the TV
).
I've been looking for a 'real' OEM lamp/housing and Sony has it (of course) >$350 which is a lot of $$.

I have sourced one that says it's OEM and it's just north of $200 from Amazon so I'm thinking about giving that one a try and return it if it's not fully OEM.

I suggest you read in great detail if the supplier is selling you an OEM lamp w/a different housing.
post #2994 of 3213
If anyone wants to pick up any of the PS3 3D Glasses here is a place that have them on sale for $15:

NoMoreRack
Edited by blipszyc - 7/19/13 at 8:14am
post #2995 of 3213
Quick question:

Just picked up a Sony VPL-HW30ES tonight, and am wondering if my Panasonic 3D glasses will work with it (once I find the emitter, which nobody seems to sell).

The glasses I have are these:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TY-EW3D3MU-Active-Shutter-Eyewear/dp/B0058SYDTI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1376022962&sr=8-3&keywords=panasonic+3d+glasses

Will these work? Thanks!

And, as an aside, if they don't work, what are the best/current glasses for this projector? It seems pretty hard to figure out which ones are the ones I need!
Edited by WilliamG - 8/9/13 at 12:45am
post #2996 of 3213
Those glasses will not work with the Sony. Options are the Xpand 104 and Monster Vision / Optoma RF glasses which work perfect with the Sony.

regarding the comment about you being picky in the P8000 thread, just about every projector I reviewed (including the HW30 I owned for a year) was better than the 8000. For current owners who are pleased with it, they might change their mind if they had a frame of reference to compare against.

the softness of the smooth screen, uniformity issues and below average color out of the box (it needs a heavy calibration) are deal breakers for me when you can get a better projector with the HW30/HW50, Epson and JVC offerings.

They need to step up their game in the fall to stay competitive imo.
post #2997 of 3213
You can also use (I bought 2 for $25 from Amazon) the Sony PS3 3D glasses.

NOTE: others have said they work w/this PJ however I have not tested mine.
post #2998 of 3213
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

You can also use (I bought 2 for $25 from Amazon) the Sony PS3 3D glasses.

NOTE: others have said they work w/this PJ however I have not tested mine.
The Sony PS3 glasses work great. They go on sale at Amazon every once in a while. PS3 Glasses
post #2999 of 3213
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Those glasses will not work with the Sony. Options are the Xpand 104 and Monster Vision / Optoma RF glasses which work perfect with the Sony.

regarding the comment about you being picky in the P8000 thread, just about every projector I reviewed (including the HW30 I owned for a year) was better than the 8000. For current owners who are pleased with it, they might change their mind if they had a frame of reference to compare against.

the softness of the smooth screen, uniformity issues and below average color out of the box (it needs a heavy calibration) are deal breakers for me when you can get a better projector with the HW30/HW50, Epson and JVC offerings.

They need to step up their game in the fall to stay competitive imo.

I agree. Pretty sad a 2-year-old Sony projector destroys Panasonic's newest offerings. I really didn't know what I was missing. Guilty as charged.

How do the RF glasses work with the Sony? I thought the Sony was using IR via the emitter?
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

You can also use (I bought 2 for $25 from Amazon) the Sony PS3 3D glasses.

NOTE: others have said they work w/this PJ however I have not tested mine.

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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

The Sony PS3 glasses work great. They go on sale at Amazon every once in a while. PS3 Glasses

Are the Sony PS3 glasses as good as it gets, though? Or do other glasses offer better picture quality?

Thanks!
post #3000 of 3213
I have 4 pairs of the Sony glasses made for this projector and they work perfectly and the quality must be 'the best' since they are made for this series of pj's. The one-thing my better half complains about is the weight of them. They are 'heavy' on the bridge of the nose.

The PS3 glasses are much lighter but we haven't tested them out yet to see how they 'feel' after wearing them for 2 hours.
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