Official Sony VPL-HW30(A)ES Owners Thread - Page 22

Originally Posted by zfc6e

Hi,
I ordered Sony HW30es without emitter and galsses (mistake). What's my options for no-sony galsses and emitter. Some people here psoted that XpanD X103 works, do I need to order Sony TMRPJ1 or other emitter. Any other glasses works with Sony HW30es?
Thanks in advance

Zongfu Chen
Pittsburgh, PA

Originally Posted by William

Lithium Ion's love to be charged often and have the best life if never ran *dead.

*You do need to run dead every couple of months or at least twice a year to calibrate the complex charging control circuits.

Originally Posted by Roshy

Also, it says to use cat7 or something. Im running it fine with cat 6 about 20 feet. Maybe you have a crappy cat5e cable. The signal that Sony is pumping through could be too strong for a long cat5e run and causing interference?

I'd try avatar again and if u have problems, swap out or cat6

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

Got my 30 today.
Just time enough to hook it up and watch for a few.
I notice facing the projector the left side exhaust blows a lot more than the right side. Right side is very faint blowing.
Is this normal??

Originally Posted by zfc6e

Thanks a lot for your responses. I'll order the sony Emitter and give Xpand X103 a try. The new sony galsses is not available or way too expensvie.

Originally Posted by xb1032

I demoed this projector at Best Buy yesterday. The viewing was on a 92" Black Diamond screen. I turned all the lights off, TVs off, and closed the doors. A little light came through the tinted doors but not too bad. I would say the black levels of this projector on the black diamond screen were about what my JVCRS2 is on my Dalite HP screen. While I was there I took a 12" sample of the 2.8 gain HP material and when standing the pic was very bright. However, unlike others noted it seemed to me that the black levels raised much more than what they did on my setup at home. Enough so that I wouldn't want this as my next projector being a black fanatic and wanting to keep my Dalite HP material.

However, 3D looked really good. Much better than I saw in the theater and on past TVs I've watched in stores. For me the big turn off to 3D was cross talk/ghosting and I didn't really see much of this on the Sony and it impressed me enough to get me interested in 3D even though this projector won't be the one for me.

Originally Posted by zombie10k


I have the RS50 (similar light output as your RS2 w/ better blacks) and the Hw30, both on a 2.8 HP screen. Something must have been way off on the calibration of that demo you saw, maybe they had the iris turned off.

Some employee probably cranked up the brightness controls or messed with the gamma settings because the out of the box settings are about as good as it gets without a full calibration.

If you in my viewing room and had a chance to see both side by side, calibrated, you'd see there isn't much the HW30 is leaving behind by comparison to a 2x more expensive JVC in regard to the black floor. I watched 'X-men 1st class and Thor' first on the JVC and again tonight on the Sony. Both look great on 2.8HP, but with the Sony - scenes are brighter and feel there is a bit of advantage of mixed contrast scenes for the Sony.

I've been so busy with the Sony that my JVC was sitting idle for a while. I am moving it a smaller ~ 110 2.4HP screen soon to live out it's elder years. The HW30 get's the 142" 2.8HP (last of it's kind: RIP 2.8HP) for now. Maybe until the Mitsubishi HC7800 comes along, this looks like an interesting projector out of all upcoming models.

Originally Posted by blee0120

So, is the Sony better in 2D than the RS50 for you?

Originally Posted by Roshy

Any help would be appreicated. I'm kinda disappointed now. I was so excited earlier when I got the new unit and the fan wasn't making a high pitched queel, now I'm worried theres something else wrong.

Originally Posted by zombie10k

I have the RS50 (similar light output as your RS2 w/ better blacks) and the Hw30, both on a 2.8 HP screen. Something must have been way off on the calibration of that demo you saw, maybe they had the iris turned off.

Some employee probably cranked up the brightness controls or messed with the gamma settings because the out of the box settings are about as good as it gets without a full calibration.

If you in my viewing room and had a chance to see both side by side, calibrated, you'd see there isn't much the HW30 is leaving behind by comparison to a 2x more expensive JVC in regard to the black floor. I watched 'X-men 1st class and Thor' first on the JVC and again tonight on the Sony. Both look great on 2.8HP, but with the Sony - scenes are brighter and feel there is a bit of advantage of mixed contrast scenes for the Sony.

I've been so busy with the Sony that my JVC was sitting idle for a while. I am moving it a smaller ~ 110 2.4HP screen soon to live out it's elder years. The HW30 get's the 142" 2.8HP (last of it's kind: RIP 2.8HP) for now. Maybe until the Mitsubishi HC7800 comes along, this looks like an interesting projector out of all upcoming models.

Originally Posted by zombie10k

If you still have both, you can swap lamps to see if that has any impact on the IQ of the replacement. There can be wide variances with UHP lamps and the default settings in the projector. It can't hurt and might answer some of your questions in regard to the discrepancy between the 2 projectors.

Originally Posted by Roshy

Umm... on my new projector under 3D I only see simulated and over/under... do you have to do something to enable side by side as an option? My other projector just had it originally...

Just to be clear. In the function menu, under 3D Settings, chose 3D, and I used to get 3 options:

Simulated 3D
Side-by-Side
Over-Under

Now the menu just shows:
Simulated 3D
Over-Under

The manual doesn't say anything about side by side not allowed under certain circumstances

Originally Posted by Ponziani

SBS doesn't seem to be supported at 1080/24p according to the manual. Tried to play Crysis2 on the HTPC in 3d and got two side by side images and the menu without a SBS setting like you mention.

Originally Posted by Roshy

No, I turned it in to fedex already now. I write my post and forgot to hit submit a couple hours before I wrote it. I have the colors to a more acceptable level now, but I really have zero clue as to what I'm doing for calibration. Any good guides out there for calibrating a projector?

Originally Posted by zombie10k

a good place to start is Kal's primer on calibration. it's not for any one specific projector, just discusses the fundamentals of calibrating a display.

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457

Calibrating with a meter and software is straightforward with some of the software packages out there like Tom's Chromapure product. it's an easy learning curve even for novices since everything setup in a specific order to calibrate the projector.

Once I hit 50 hours, I'll run an initial calibration and post stock settings vs. the post calibration. There are obvious signs on the reports that can show how much had to change in order to acheive D65 / REC 709. On some projectors like my RS50, it's a large amount that has to change. if you saw my RS50 stock, you would immediately ask what's wrong with it since flesh tones would look a bit sickly (green/blue cast).

For some reason, this JVC is very low on red value meaning I have to bring down large amounts of blue/green in order get a balanced white point. This is critical for correct flesh tones. This also costs lumens right away before hour 1 is put on my lamp. The HW30 excels with very good grey scale OOTB which is good news to me since that means I am not going to lose much light attempting to get it close to D65.

The primary colors are relatively close too and some folks prefer the wide color space to increase the saturation even further although I think it looks fine on the normal settings.

Originally Posted by Roshy

No, I turned it in to fedex already now. I write my post and forgot to hit submit a couple hours before I wrote it. I have the colors to a more acceptable level now, but I really have zero clue as to what I'm doing for calibration. Any good guides out there for calibrating a projector?

Originally Posted by browerjs

I doubt that's what it is (although it did cross my mind), as I originally used a cat5 cable before I got a new one for my permanent install.

I think my current plan of troubleshooting will be this:

1. Try Avatar
2. If problem persists, Charge glasses, try both sources
3. If problem persists, Try different cable