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post #151 of 5228
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post
And, will the cheaper DLP LINK glasses work with this PJ?
Yes - 3D mode can be optionally setup as DLP-Link. It is in the 1st page of this thread - and also confirmed from the user manual.
post #152 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post
I really think the 6x gain of the silverstar is the problem. I never saw rainbows on any DLP I've owned until I got the Silverstar. I mean man 6.0 gain is huge, that's 6000 lumens ouch with the HD33/3300 for 2D. 3D with the glasses tames down that blaring brightness. A 1.0 gain at 1400 lumens 3D and 1000 for 2D is more manageable.
I think you're going to see rainbows with any DLP projector on a Silverstar...
post #153 of 5228
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post
Yes - 3D mode can be optionally setup as DLP-Link. It is in the 1st page of this thread - and also confirmed from the user manual.

it can, but why on gods earth would you want to? unless you already have the glasses, then i could understand, but i really haven't read one good thing about them. plus this comes with the rf emitter and I'm pretty sure these glasses will work.

http://ahugq.vcfpq.servertrust.com/n...ses_p/rf-1.htm

and even if they don't work. you could get the glasses with the rf emitter made to replace the nvidia vision and all it needs is a cable to use the rf emitter with this projector and from talking with the prerson there, they said they will get that. so now you can get two glasses and an emitter if needed for likely less than those crappy dlp link glasses.
post #154 of 5228
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Great pictures guitarman ! Please add pictures from other movies too

Also where can you buy the HD3300 ? Its not listed on Amazon.

BTW, a 3 year square trade warranty on a $1500 PJ costs around $150 and also i am not sure if i will ever need to replace a bulb within 2 years as i dont expect to watch anything but movies on the PJ. So not sure if HD3300 is worth the extra $500 price tag...thoughts ? (i dont know what ISF modes are and not sure i will need to use them given how perfect your pictures already look with HD33)

The HD3300 is mainly for installers doing all the work grayscale tuning the signals in the ISF modes. The $150 3yr sounds good do they cover the lamp for 3yrs also? I'd get that deal.

I see projector people have the HD33 on site, wonder if they really have one.
post #155 of 5228
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"You know the HD3300 is a good deal also because it comes with a 3yrs on the PJ and 2yrs on the lamp warranty, the black case look nice also. It has to be purchased from a Cedia dealer like Alan at AVS. You can barter with Alan so it might be worth a look (buy AVS)."




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Thanks for the plug.

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No problem, allot of the time we get so rapped up here we forget AVS likes to sell projectors also. Plus install them.
post #156 of 5228
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Originally Posted by Jason Yeo View Post

Is the rainbow effect serious on 3D viewing ? What is the maximum throwing distance to project a 82inch widescreen ? Thanks.

Optoma site calculator for the HD33 says 8.5' to 10.5', check it online for exact numbers. It's right on for my setup, it says 11.7" for a 106" daig 11.7" is where it is and zoom all wide open. Hmmm I just realized something when I tested the light output in the long setup I didn't think to open the zoom. Bet there's allot more lumens to add.

It's usually another 20% at max zoom so figure 3D 1700lumens at max zoom and 1300lumens for 2D.
post #157 of 5228
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I think you're going to see rainbows with any DLP projector on a Silverstar...

Definetly when I first turned on the machine and glanced away I saw the candy cane effect flash the height of the screen. It was the screens problem, it sure was bright Vutec doesn't lie about that.
post #158 of 5228
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

it can, but why on gods earth would you want to? unless you already have the glasses, then i could understand, but i really haven't read one good thing about them. plus this comes with the rf emitter and I'm pretty sure these glasses will work.

http://ahugq.vcfpq.servertrust.com/n...ses_p/rf-1.htm

and even if they don't work. you could get the glasses with the rf emitter made to replace the nvidia vision and all it needs is a cable to use the rf emitter with this projector and from talking with the prerson there, they said they will get that. so now you can get two glasses and an emitter if needed for likely less than those crappy dlp link glasses.

Well...here may your first !

I was super impressed with the Optomoa DLP-link glasses that came with 3DXL and went ahead and ordered a second pair for $60. I am impressed because they are big (good for giving you complete immersion and also if you wear prescription glasses) and are was very surprised that they were super bright and comfortable with changeable nose pieces. They work extremely well with HD66 DLP projector with ZERO ghosting and rarely lose sync (when the scenes are very bright)...my only gripe is they are not rechargeable.

other glasses i tried are Panasonic IR glasses which always lost sync and very tight when worn on my prescription glasses. I also bought the one you show in the above link and found them to be way too dark, very small and have terrible ghosting and i promptly returned everything and bought the HD66 instead and couldn't be happier with 3D (except of course the 1080 is missing)

I read somewhere that DLP-link will washout blacks and I proved to myself that this is false information. To do this i switched the HD66 to Nvidia mode and i saw the darkness/brightness was same as when I put it in DLP-link and adorned the glasses (ofcourse DLP link looks washed out without glasses due to the white sync frame they insert...which goes away when the glasses are on).
post #159 of 5228
I just called Mike at AVS. You might be surprised about the good pricing on the Optoma HD3300. They may even do a pre-order.
post #160 of 5228
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post

I just called Mike at AVS. You might be surprised about the good pricing on the Optoma HD3300. They may even do a pre-order.

What is it ? BTW, how do you reach Mike ?
post #161 of 5228
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post

http://ahugq.vcfpq.servertrust.com/n...ses_p/rf-1.htm

and even if they don't work. you could get the glasses with the rf emitter made to replace the nvidia vision and all it needs is a cable to use the rf emitter with this projector and from talking with the prerson there, they said they will get that. so now you can get two glasses and an emitter if needed for likely less than those crappy dlp link glasses.

Are you claiming dlp link glasses are "crappy" compared to the one you have linked to because of personal experience or are you repeating someone else' oponion as fact ?

falafala above atleast seems to have actually tried both. So, I would place more trust on his report.
post #162 of 5228
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Mike Garrett
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post #163 of 5228
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Mike Garrett
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AVScience
585-671-2968
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Thanks, will call him soon myself. The warranty extension alone is worth it. I was unaware that AVS sold Optoma's "CEDIA dealers only" units.
post #164 of 5228
As for the dlp-link versus ir debate, here's my personal experience. I have an Acer H5360 and initially purchased the ultra-clear dlp link glasses. For some reason, I just felt that the image looked a little flat. It doesn't look washed out, but just didn't pop. I then purchased the ultra-clear ir glasses. I could instantly notice more pop. The amount of pop was more like it was in 2d.

This is just my experience with that specific hardware/glasses. One thing that could be causing this is that dlp link will cause a lot of light to bounce around in your room. If you put up an all black screen, it will still be very bright. The glasses will remove a lot of that light, but not all of it, as some may be bouncing back on the screen due to room reflections. I can even see reflections off the frame of the glasses in dark scenes.

I wouldn't say dlp link looks bad. In my specific experience, I just feltl that I was getting cheated of the full contrast potential of the projector.
post #165 of 5228
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Are you claiming dlp link glasses are "crappy" compared to the one you have linked to because of personal experience or are you repeating someone else' oponion as fact ?

falafala above atleast seems to have actually tried both. So, I would place more trust on his report.

based on every review i've seen, only dlp link glasses that rated well are the ones that are 400 dollars.

plus RF doesn't lose sync. as I said, if you already own them, it would be viable, but buying them instead of using rflink glasses seems not the best option to me.
post #166 of 5228
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post
based on every review i've seen, only dlp link glasses that rated well are the ones that are 400 dollars.
That is not what I've read. Infact almost all posts I've read say PQ on dlp link is better.

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plus RF doesn't lose sync. as I said, if you already own them, it would be viable, but buying them instead of using rflink glasses seems not the best option to me.
I was not considering the RF because of the price. The one you linked doesn't work with HD33, right ? falafala above says his impression was the opposite of what you are saying ...

ps : Look at this thread for eg. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post19393478

The "poll" got 16 for DLP 4 for IR.
post #167 of 5228
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Here's the emitter it's got about 3' detachable wire on it.

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/iremitter.jpg

3D glasses, the glasses are very comfortable.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/3dglasses.jpg
post #168 of 5228
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Originally Posted by DrNegative View Post
Thanks, will call him soon myself. The warranty extension alone is worth it. I was unaware that AVS sold Optoma's "CEDIA dealers only" units.
Ok the specs are higher on the HD3300 they tweaked the machinery to give the increase in brightness and CR. Some won't like this theory but it works. They hand pick the best parts, they did this with the H79 vs the H78. Boards, lenses, lamps all brought together to make the projector the best it can be. That's where the extra $500 goes plus the warranty and ISF day / Night modes.
post #169 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post
Never was any with 3D just spotted a glimpse with 2D and the 6x silverstar. 2D on the 1.0 gain setup I couldn't see any. I think it was the 6000 lumens with the silverstar that made me catch a couple. Use the online optoma screen calcultator that will get you close. My setup is lens 11' 7" away from a 106" diag screen and it fits the width ok.
I am planning of upgrading my HD65 to HD3300. Besides upgrading the HDMI 1.4 cable do I need to get a specific screen for 3D to get a 3D effect?

Thanks
post #170 of 5228
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Well if you low table mount a Dalite High Power would be great, if you ceiling mount find anything white with gain a 1.3 or 1.5. I Check the Dalites or Carada. You could try a vutec silverstar it's a 6.0 gain but more expensive.
post #171 of 5228
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Originally Posted by DrNegative View Post
Thanks, will call him soon myself. The warranty extension alone is worth it. I was unaware that AVS sold Optoma's "CEDIA dealers only" units.
We are authorized and expect to have pricing tomorrow. As soon as we receive, Mike or I will post some numbers for you guys or at least give you guys a heads up to call either of us to get price.

Benito
post #172 of 5228
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Sounds good there might be more of these available early on than the common market one.

Hey what's these 2D to 3D players I'm seeing does that work ok?
post #173 of 5228
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Originally Posted by Benito Joaquin View Post

We are authorized and expect to have pricing tomorrow. As soon as we receive, Mike or I will post some numbers for you guys or at least give you guys a heads up to call either of us to get price.

Benito

Benito,

Let us also know whether you guys plan to sell HD33 too. One more thing - what do you expect to be the shipment time ?

I started my DLP journey with a Davis-450 from Alan a decade back !
post #174 of 5228
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Benito,

Let us also know whether you guys plan to sell HD33 too. One more thing - what do you expect to be the shipment time ?

I started my DLP journey with a Davis-450 from Alan a decade back !

That's something, my first digital was also a Davis 650. That's what brought me to AVS 11 years ago!
post #175 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Sounds good there might be more of these available early on than the common market one.

Hey what's these 2D to 3D players I'm seeing does that work ok?

It depends on players...Samsung 6700 does a decent job, Panasonic DMP-BDT310 is really bad.

But nothing like the real 3D stuff....
post #176 of 5228
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Sounds interesting, I could play my classic's like House of Wax and turn it into 3D.
post #177 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Sounds interesting, I could play my classic's like House of Wax and turn it into 3D.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1243945

have fun !
post #178 of 5228
Here is a first look from The Art of Home Theater Projectors site.
post #179 of 5228
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I saw that pre review, now this is what the Leeloo shot should look like. Not too much magenta, good detail in the wall, just the right amount of color. Colorfacts baby.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d3.jpg

I'll post up my RGB numbers for the HDMI 2D tuning later. I'm about to work on the HDTV 1080i signal over component. This signal is ok OTB but I know things will be way better after colorfacts. I'll post these numbers also for anyone running a component cable for TV.
post #180 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Well if you low table mount a Dalite High Power would be great, if you ceiling mount find anything white with gain a 1.3 or 1.5. I Check the Dalites or Carada. You could try a vutec silverstar it's a 6.0 gain but more expensive.

I actually low ceiling mount/high shelf mount with a High Power and a dlp with no lens shift. I like it better than low table mount because all the light isn't hitting the ground. I was doing this with a Mitsubishi HC4000, which has a larger offset than this pj. High Power ceiling mount works very well if you are willing to drop your screen low to the ground.
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