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post #211 of 5228
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

Thanks Guitarman !

I am little confused...is this for HD33 or HD3300 ?

Also could you please add the settings for best 3D after calibration as well ?

They're the same machine so the numbers should help. There is no tuning system for 3D. Wing told me the 3D tuning they did is for when you have the glasses on and the effect the glasses have on the levels and grayscale tunings. It's set for max contrast and D65k grayscale while viewing with the glasses.

If one was to tune it without the glasses it would lose all that high brightness and the grayscale would be off (when putting the glasses back on).

Update:
I got 1700lumens out of the 3D setup and 1200 lumens out of 2D.

Had to raise the numbers because when I used my light meter I forgot to have the projector at max zoom. Max zoom adds about 20% to the lumens numbers.
post #212 of 5228
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I'm also a little confused. Is that a picture of the HD3300 in the first post? Thought the HD33 were all white.

Yeah I was confused about the model numbers and asked for the HD3300. It should be about the same as the HD33 which is white.
post #213 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Yes that's right and that's without even using any of the digital shift. Which is good to have available incase your just a little off, you can make up the difference.

Does the digital shift have any effect on the image like keystone adjustments?
post #214 of 5228
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No no effect at all it's just a little useful.
post #215 of 5228
Should this thread name add the HD3300 in it?

AVS, has pricing been settled yet for the HD3300?
post #216 of 5228
A review of the HD33 is up at projector central.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/opto...tor_review.htm
post #217 of 5228
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

A review of the HD33 is up at projector central.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/opto...tor_review.htm

Good solid review and high marks. He also confirmed Guitarman's statement of a 6X color wheel when measured at 60Hz....making it the cheapest 1080p projector to ever have such a speed I believe.
"Color wheel. With a 3x-speed, 6-segment RGBRGB color wheel, the HD33 waves a fond farewell to the rainbow effect. Here's where it gets tricky: the HD33 has a refresh rate of 120Hz and the color wheel goes through three full cycles per frame, for a 3x refresh rate. If this projector were running at 60Hz, the same wheel speed would be referred to as 6x. If you see both numbers around the Internet, this is why. This wheel configuration should eliminate color separation artifacts for all but the most hypersensitive viewers. In fact, this paragraph was almost omitted from the review because, after not seeing any rainbows over several days of testing, I forgot that they were even a concern."
post #218 of 5228
Sounds like the contrast is better than the HD20. Same black level but brighter, so that means higher contrast ratio. With an ND2 filter, should look good if using a smaller screen/high gain for 2d. For 3d probably want all the lumens you can get.
post #219 of 5228
It says: "The HD33 comes with the emitter and one pair of glasses, and additional pairs cost less than $100."

Is that true ? you get a free pair of glasses for $1500 projector ?
post #220 of 5228
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post

It says: "The HD33 comes with the emitter and one pair of glasses, and additional pairs cost less than $100."

Is that true ? you get a free pai of glasses for $1500 projector ?

Hope this is true cause I am all over it as soon as it becomes available. Seems like an awesome value.

atabea
post #221 of 5228
What's pai?

Just joking. Probably a misprint. It's already a great deal without the glasses. Of course who doesn't want more!
post #222 of 5228
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Projector central Mr Bill sounded a little excited about it with good reason. Optoma stated you get the emitter glasses have to be bought at $99 each. Bill just got a pair in the review sample like I got two pairs in my review sample.
post #223 of 5228
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Good news for me on cable runs. My 25' didn't work with the Sony 3D blu ray player which was hooked through a Onkyo receiver. I ordered a 30' high speed cable and everything thrown into the receiver now works. So the high speed cables even longer can work for you.

I wasn't going to buy the HD3300 if I ran into 1.4a cable trouble. I had to test the Sony at first using a short high speed cable I had direct to the HD3300. Happy camper now.
post #224 of 5228
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

A review of the HD33 is up at projector central.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/opto...tor_review.htm

Didn't know about this. So just $100 to get 2 pairs. That makes it easier to go with RF rather than get a IR or DLP Link.

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The HD33 comes with the emitter and one pair of glasses, and additional pairs cost less than $100.
post #225 of 5228
I think each additional pair is $99.
post #226 of 5228
Guitarman,

In your screen shots, I noticed a small white speck on the left side of the image, near the bottom. This speck is in all of your shots...what is that? Take a look at the pic of the boy pointing and you can see the spec clearly in the left brown tent.

I am considering placing a pre-order with AVS tomorrow for a HD3300, but I can afford the HD8300...I guess Im just having a hard time justifying the increased price difference. I am thinking for my first projector, the HD3300 will make me very happy...and I can always upgrade later. Would be an easier decision if there was a review/screen shots of the HD8300 some where. Then I could see what I would be missing...lol.
post #227 of 5228
Guitarman glad to hear the cable works for you . Im getting the same setup.
I currently own a HD65 is the throwing distance and projector screen to height
same as the HD65. I want to make sure that it will work before I order the HD3300

Thanks
post #228 of 5228
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You don't get a free pair of glasses. Bill just got a pair with his loaner review projector. The original statement from Optoma says the PJ comes with the emitter, glasses have to be bought seperately.
post #229 of 5228
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Originally Posted by krell101 View Post

Guitarman glad to hear the cable works for you . Im getting the same setup.
I currently own a HD65 is the throwing distance and projector screen to height
same as the HD65. I want to make sure that it will work before I order the HD3300

Thanks

Look over the screen distance calculator at Optoma's website for the projector it's dead on.
post #230 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

You don't get a free pair of glasses. Bill just got a pair with his loaner review projector. The original statement from Optoma says the PJ comes with the emitter, glasses have to be bought seperately.

Hmmm - so $200 for RF glasses vs $100 for DLP Link.
post #231 of 5228
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Hmmm - so $200 for RF glasses vs $100 for DLP Link.

I am also torn between the two. As much as I was pleasantly surprised by the high quality experience I had with Optoma DLP-link, there is one caveats worth mentioning....once in a while when the movie starts the left and right images were swapped and I had to go deep into the HD66 projector's menu to swap it back....although this is not a showstopper, its a minor annoyance especially with the HD66 remote which is badly designed with crammed buttons and not backlit. It seems this may be a non-issue with HD33 as I see a R/L button on the remote screen shot which is much easier to access.

Guitarman could you please confirm this from the manual ?

also i am just too curious to try out the RF glasses for the praise people heap on them !
post #232 of 5228
Just to let you guys know, we will be selling the HD3300. The 3300 comes with a 3 yr. warranty with Optoma's Express service and 2 yr. on the lamp. The 33 only comes with 1 yr. limited parts and labor, 90 days on the lamp. There are a few other differences like black case for the 3300, but the warranty is the main difference.
post #233 of 5228
Can you confirm that the vertical shift moves picture up and down please
post #234 of 5228
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Didn't know about this. So just $100 to get 2 pairs. That makes it easier to go with RF rather than get a IR or DLP Link.

those glasses should be at least $100 each, they are bit cauldron glasses also marketed as the Monster Vision 3D glasses. I have tried several DLP link glasses but prefer the RF glasses so for me it's worth the extra $$.

The RF glasses are the upper right hand corner. Notice the tint is considerably different than the NVidia 3D vision, Xpand 103 or brand new Sony TDG-PJ1.

As much as I like these glasses, I think they are the most fragile. I broke my first pair just by folding the arms (lens cracked) so I dare not give these to visitors or kids who will handle them like the theater glasses. The Xpand 103's are built like a tank by comparison.

post #235 of 5228
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It seems this may be a non-issue with HD33 as I see a R/L button on the remote screen shot which is much easier to access.

R/L is to change the 3D mode - not for sync-invert.

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If watching 3D content from an HDMI 1.4a source (e.g. 3D Blu-ray) your 3D glasses should always be in sync. If watching 3D content from an HDMI 1.3 source (e.g. 3D broadcast using SBS mode) it may be necessary to use the projector’s 3D Sync-Invert option to optimize your 3D experience. The option is located in the “Display ->3D” section of the projector OSD menu.

BTW, the manual is on the Optoma site and also linked somewhere in this thread.
post #236 of 5228
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Originally Posted by paul77 View Post

Can you confirm that the vertical shift moves picture up and down please

Yes 5% of the screen height. Which works out to be 2" on my 106" diagonal screen.
post #237 of 5228
I'm assuming there's a standard to follow for RF 3D Glasses. Is there something to look for if we're shopping for non Optoma RF glasses? Like will NVidia's glasses work?
post #238 of 5228
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Originally Posted by zombie10k;20869577
The RF glasses are the upper right hand corner. Notice the tint is considerably different than the NVidia 3D vision, Xpand 103 or brand new Sony TDG-PJ1.

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http://mynikonphotos.com/projector1/allglasses1.jpg[/IMG]

thanks for this very useful photo. Could you name which is which ?
post #239 of 5228
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Projector central Mr Bill sounded a little excited about it with good reason. Optoma stated you get the emitter glasses have to be bought at $99 each. Bill just got a pair in the review sample like I got two pairs in my review sample.

Thanks for clarifying guitarman....so what happens to the unit you reviewed ? do you get to keep it ?
post #240 of 5228
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

R/L is to change the 3D mode - not for sync-invert.



BTW, the manual is on the Optoma site and also linked somewhere in this thread.

Darn ! I looked up the manual and its very weird that they mapped every possible option onto the remote (some are very useless) but the 3D Sync Invert which is buried under menus. Time to reconsider RF glasses...too bad they get a bit too expensive if the no of family members increase !
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