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Originally Posted by armandxp View Post

Be very, very careful of that internet source (to anyone who's looking to purchase the HD33). If it sounds too good to be true, it is! I just googled and the sellers that have the 'too cheap' prices are all 'new' company's, with no ratings. I would warn anyone to beware.

+1000.... I would only buy from legitimate authorized resellers.
post #2612 of 5304
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Originally Posted by booley View Post

Can anyone explain why 3D looks even more "fine grain" than 2D? The picture looks "like glass" on the screen. I thought my 720p 3D Optoma was good until I saw this model, which blows it away. Highly recommended!

You noticed that too eh? I don't know why but if I were to guess I would say the depth of the picture causes this effect. That 720p comment pretty much kills that option for me as others have made the same observation. My 2 PJ plan has crumbled with the new lower priced 1080 3d units. Guess I am going to have to sell my 8350. I hate to do that.

Anyone know who pays return shipping with Amazon? I could have a 33 here at lunchtime tomorrow.
post #2613 of 5304
Had mine for ~2 weeks and I have had an issue and was wondering if anyone else has seen this. I have found that occasionally the remote stops responding as if the remote is dead. I don't think its a problem with the remote however because it has fresh batteries and once I do a power cycle on the unit the remote works fine. I have noticed that it seems to happen more when I switch inputs a lot (SAT-Blu-ray-AppleTV-etc). Could the resolution change be what is triggering the unit to stop responding to the remote?
post #2614 of 5304
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Originally Posted by radec1002 View Post

Had mine for ~2 weeks and I have had an issue and was wondering if anyone else has seen this. I have found that occasionally the remote stops responding as if the remote is dead. I don't think its a problem with the remote however because it has fresh batteries and once I do a power cycle on the unit the remote works fine. I have noticed that it seems to happen more when I switch inputs a lot (SAT-Blu-ray-AppleTV-etc). Could the resolution change be what is triggering the unit to stop responding to the remote?

i've had this happen several times - the only way to resolve it that i've found was to unplug the projector!
post #2615 of 5304
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

i've had this happen several times - the only way to resolve it that i've found was to unplug the projector!

Oh Boy! I don't like the sound of that since Optoma stupidly decided to omit controls on the main unit so at least you could shut it down properly. What is going on with these manufacturers? Even Epson cheaped out on the 3010 by putting in a crap lens with no lens shift compared to the 8350. BTW, I was tempted today but passed on ordering the 33. As the holidays approacheth, I suspect some better deals and more options. I hope. Funny thing, since I was looking for the ghosting on the step-up movie posted in another thread, I just left the lights on in the room and had no problems watching on my 61" TV. Well the DLP glasses did flicker occasionally when I turned my head but I am sure it was the flourescent lighting im my room. I would like to say I can't wait to watch 3d on my 120" screen but apparently I can for I have done nothing to remedy the current situation.
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Originally Posted by radec1002 View Post

Had mine for ~2 weeks and I have had an issue and was wondering if anyone else has seen this. I have found that occasionally the remote stops responding as if the remote is dead. I don't think its a problem with the remote however because it has fresh batteries and once I do a power cycle on the unit the remote works fine. I have noticed that it seems to happen more when I switch inputs a lot (SAT-Blu-ray-AppleTV-etc). Could the resolution change be what is triggering the unit to stop responding to the remote?

Call up customer service and tell them the problem and that you can handle installing a new firmware yourself. Then they'll email you the latest version C03 which stabilizes better it's for any PJ's getting freeze ups.

I posted this earlier but I don't think anyone's taken them up on it. Let us know how it goes.

My HD3300 doesn't do that it has firmware C02. C02 was to add tint/color for the ypbpr signal.
post #2617 of 5304
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Panny 7000 lol.


The Panny is so much better than the Epson or the Optoma, you can LOL all day long. The fact is the Panny is leagues ahead and yes I have had the hd3300 and the Epson 3010. You have a good pj I have GREAT PJ thats the difference.
post #2618 of 5304
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You have a good pj I have GREAT PJ thats the difference.

For twice the price, I sure as hell hope it's better. But I bet I'd still prefer my HD3300.
post #2619 of 5304
Thinking about pulling the trigger. Just need a little motivation. I am currently using an acer 5360. I am fine with 720p. I need a projector for 720p 3d gaming. Why should I switch over. My friend tells me picture quality is so nice but that doesn't really help(since he doesn't know much about these things)
post #2620 of 5304
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Thinking about pulling the trigger. Just need a little motivation. I am currently using an acer 5360. I am fine with 720p. I need a projector for 720p 3d gaming. Why should I switch over. My friend tells me picture quality is so nice but that doesn't really help(since he doesn't know much about these things)

1080p has come down enough in price for it to be silly to buy a 720p projector unless you are really strapped for cash. For a little extra more, you get a lot more bang for your buck. Let's do some math:

1280x720=921600

1920x1080=2073600

So, in a 100 inch screen, for example, you get more than twice the amount of pixels. That's a much sharper picture and, although it may not make much difference if you sit far away, it will allow you to sit much closer and only increase the immersion without being able to discern any pixelation.

That said, if you are only gaming (console?) in 3D, I think there are less expensive options out there (other Optoma 720p projectors), but the HD33 has frame interpolation and it works really well with games imho. I have played Gears 3 on Xbox and Arkham Asylum on the PS3 and they both look fantastic. The frame interpolation helps smooth out the high motion scenes which tend to give headaches. Thus, you can play longer before feeling the need to take a break. That's what I've found, at least. Hope that helps.
post #2621 of 5304
He already has a 5360 so he is good for gaming. I bet if he waits and watches during this holiday season he can get a good deal on a 1080p unit. For sure in the new year.
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Originally Posted by pxjunky View Post

The Panny is so much better than the Epson or the Optoma, you can LOL all day long. The fact is the Panny is leagues ahead and yes I have had the hd3300 and the Epson 3010. You have a good pj I have GREAT PJ thats the difference.

As mentioned I am sure the LOL comes from the price difference. Like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford Escort. Both will get you where you are going. I appreciate your observations of both units in this category but certainly your Panny is no match for other more expensive units hands down. As a matter of fact, you may find your Panny is no match for soon to be released units that come in cheaper than yours. Let's just keep things in perspective here. If I want to step up it will really need to bring a lot to the table else I don't need all that. The Panny is not as sharp as the Opto 8300 according to Art's review and 8700UB has better blacks and on and on. Leagues ahead is doubtful anymore in this day. Let's keep it real folks.
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Does anyone watched Cars 2 in 3D with his HD33/3300?

After watched it I was stunned on the color and the sharpness of the image BUT was a little disappointed about the 3D effect, in fact the image had some deepness (not the best i've saw) but almost no pop out effect (I would say 2 noticable). So I went to the forum to check if everyone's is disappointd too and notice that most people say that this movie have the best 3D effects they ever... AVS Cars 2 thread

So I'm beggining to think that I will never get any good pop out effect with the Optoma...
post #2624 of 5304
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Originally Posted by 8000HD View Post

Does anyone watched Cars 2 in 3D with his HD33/3300?

After watched it I was stunned on the color and the sharpness of the image BUT was a little disappointed about the 3D effect, in fact the image had some deepness (not the best i've saw) but almost no pop out effect (I would say 2 noticable). So I went to the forum to check if everyone's is disappointd too and notice that most people say that this movie have the best 3D effects they ever... AVS Cars 2 thread

So I'm beggining to think that I will never get any good pop out effect with the Optoma...

I purchased IMAX under the sea, as the acid test for pop out, and I am happy to report the scene with the potato cod fish was great, the fish came right out of screen and into the room...

I watched cars 2 and not think much of it, looked nice...Lots of colour pop...(perhaps that is what they meant?)

Yogi bear has some good pop out as well...
(not to be confused with dlp colour pop)

most movies offer great depth, pop out may be to gimmicky... Perhaps they want 3D to be a part of the experience not the whole experience...

I'm very happy with my hd33, and although I was expecting things to jump out at me, I'm glad they don't always... HD33 has the pop out you want, (fish scene proves it can do it). Avatar 3d has some as well.
Hope that helps.
post #2625 of 5304
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Originally Posted by waltermixxx View Post

I purchased IMAX under the sea, as the acid test for pop out, and I am happy to report the scene with the potato cod fish was great, the fish came right out of screen and into the room...

I watched cars 2 and not think much of it, looked nice...Lots of colour pop...(perhaps that is what they meant?)

Yogi bear has some good pop out as well...
(not to be confused with dlp colour pop)

most movies offer great depth, pop out may be to gimmicky... Perhaps they want 3D to be a part of the experience not the whole experience...

I'm very happy with my hd33, and although I was expecting things to jump out at me, I'm glad they don't always... HD33 has the pop out you want, (fish scene proves it can do it). Avatar 3d has some as well.
Hope that helps.




Are you guys using the RF glasses or DLP link???

I have the RF.

I too have been surprised and the lack of "pop" on certain films (Resident Evil, Alice in wonderland).

But then i watch Despicable me and Christmas Carol and BAM, looks amazing.

Thinking this is all down to the fact the 3D is based on contrasting images and therefore the brighter colour differences of CGI film just make it work! So then that theory is blown out of the water by your comments on cars 2.

The reason i ask about the glasses is that i read all these threads with people being blown away and well, im just not!
post #2626 of 5304
I have christmas carol, but have not watched it yet. saving it for christmas with the wife... 3D home theatre is something I've wanted since I was a kid. Now I have it on a nice 110" screen and I'm very impressed. 2D looks great and so does 3D.

I have DLP link Glasses, and I am not dissappointed... I got tired of waiting for my supplier to get me RF Optoma glasses, so just got dlp link, and they work great.

I don't think it would matter what glasses you have, if the movie does not have any pop out content, it won't make a difference... either way, I'm chuffed
post #2627 of 5304
MMMmmmm

Christmas Carol looks amazing, i restrained from watching all of it cos like you saving it for Christmas! Bought it for my 3 year old but after watching the 1st scene decided its really not for the little ones!

I think the glasses may make a difference due to the timing, a lot of stuff to me is out of focus in the foreground and think this is a result of Crosstalk/Ghosting/Contrast ???

So 8000HD, what glasses do you have?
post #2628 of 5304
Thank you guys for your replies. Just to let you know, I'm very happy with my HD33, I just want to find THE popout scene (look like it is cod fish in Under the sea)

Dyerboy: I have theses DLP-Link glasses from Consignia (same as waltermixxx)

I'll sure be watching Despicable me/Under the sea next and Christmas Carol when snow has arrived
post #2629 of 5304
Waltermixxx/8000HD

Have either of you seen resident Evil or Alice in Wonderland?

If so what did you think about the foreground effects?
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So I'm beggining to think that I will never get any good pop out effect with the Optoma...

It's not the Optoma, it's the source. Many of the movies these days are focusing on the perception of depth, which many do really well. If you want a holy crap pop out moment, get the IMAX Grand Canyon Adventure - the water droplets in the beginning are right there in the room with you. It only happens in that spot, though. I think many producers don't know how to make the pop out effect not gimmicky, so most just leave it out instead of trying to be creative with it.
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My HD3300 shut down last night. I have had the unit about a month and it has 44 hrs on the lamp. Last night about 3-4 minutes after powering it up, a message came on the screen saying "Fan Failure" and it shut down. At this point there was a blinking red light on the back of the projector. Figuring the lamp did not have proper cooling so it shut down, I waited a couple hours and the red light was still blinking and it would not power up. This morning the light still blinking and I unplugged the unit. Plugged it back in after a few minutes and still got the blinking red light. The unit is ceiling mounted so I reached up and pressed the power button next to the red light and the light turned Blue. Tried powering up with the remote and it powered up normally. Felt airflow and could hear a fan running lowly which may be normal as I have never noticed the fan noise before. When I pressed the Power Off button the screen that came up with the notice to press Power Off again also had a Red Exclamation mark on the left side of the notice. I tried to see if there was some way to access a message regarding this but could not find anything in the menu about it.

Anyone having a similar experience or tips please post them. At this point it is operating what appears to be normally but will keep a close watch on it.
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Call up customer service and tell them the problem and that you can handle installing a new firmware yourself. Then they'll email you the latest version C03 which stabilizes better it's for any PJ's getting freeze ups.

Called and they are sending me the C03 update. I'll post how my situation turns out.

Just an FYI to anyone else interested...From what I was told if you have firmware C01 you cannot update it yourself to C02 (or 03). According to Customer Service that update has to be done at the factory. If your unit was shipped with C02 then you can update to C03 at home. I had the CS rep send me C03 anyways although I have to go home and actually see what version is on my unit. I'm typing this with my fingers crossed.
post #2633 of 5304
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Originally Posted by dyerboy View Post

Waltermixxx/8000HD

Have either of you seen resident Evil or Alice in Wonderland?

If so what did you think about the foreground effects?

No sorry, neither...
post #2634 of 5304
Ive seen both on hd33 and I own resident evil. Alice in wonderland looked great, resident evil was ok... I know the HD33 can do great pop out because I've seen it with under the sea, and yogi bear...

on another note, my HD33 has firmware C01, I think all HD33's have that... I'm hoping i won't need to take mine in to have the firmware updated....

my HD80 i was able to update the firmware at home, and did manage to do it once, just don't recall if there was a difference... my HD33 has been very stable... no issues ...

cheers
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Originally Posted by radec1002 View Post

Called and they are sending me the C03 update. I'll post how my situation turns out.

Just an FYI to anyone else interested...From what I was told if you have firmware C01 you cannot update it yourself to C02 (or 03). According to Customer Service that update has to be done at the factory. If your unit was shipped with C02 then you can update to C03 at home. I had the CS rep send me C03 anyways although I have to go home and actually see what version is on my unit. I'm typing this with my fingers crossed.

If you have a HD3300 you should have C02. Not all machines will have issue's where you'll want to install a firmware. Like my HD3300 is just fine, I'm over 300hrs now. Blacks got better and the lamp is still up their near the 2000 lumens level for 3D.
post #2636 of 5304
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Originally Posted by 8000HD View Post

Thank you guys for your replies. Just to let you know, I'm very happy with my HD33, I just want to find THE popout scene (look like it is cod fish in Under the sea)

Dyerboy: I have theses DLP-Link glasses from Consignia (same as waltermixxx)

I'll sure be watching Despicable me/Under the sea next and Christmas Carol when snow has arrived

Best pop outs for me so far are the paddle ball in beginning of monsters vs. aliens and the big zombie throwing the 'axe' in resident evil about an hour in, both made me flinch. I haven't seen the cod scene yet but hear about it over and over again.
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Originally Posted by dyerboy View Post

Waltermixxx/8000HD

Have either of you seen resident Evil or Alice in Wonderland?

If so what did you think about the foreground effects?

Foreground effects? I know what you're looking for, yes the foreground objects aren't focused the camera is focused on the main subjects.
post #2638 of 5304
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

Foreground effects? I know what you're looking for, yes the foreground objects aren't focused the camera is focused on the main subjects.

Thankyou, just what i needed to hear - Dont look for whats not there!

OK then Guitarman, I have the Panasonic DBT310 Blue ray player and it gives me the following colour output settings

4:4:4
4:2:2
RGB (normal)
RGB (enhanced)

What would be your recommendation??
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post #2640 of 5304
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Originally Posted by dyerboy View Post

Thankyou, just what i needed to hear - Dont look for whats not there!

OK then Guitarman, I have the Panasonic DBT310 Blue ray player and it gives me the following colour output settings

4:4:4
4:2:2
RGB (normal)
RGB (enhanced)

What would be your recommendation??

RGB Normal, but you could take a look at 4:4:4 if it works see how it looks colorwise. My tuning was done with a blu ray player at RGB normal so which ever one looks better.
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