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post #2641 of 5238
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Nice reviews, they got the contrast reading right but again a HD33 with a low light number though he didn't test it in bright lamp for max lumens and shooting to dynamic gamma for 3D viewing which adds another 20%.

Bright lamp adds about 30% more. Still short from my light meter, 800 lumens would make a light reading of 25ft-candles. I showed all a live shot of my meter at 50ft-candles, glad I did.

Thanks for the review links.
post #2642 of 5238
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Originally Posted by radec1002 View Post


Called and they are sending me the C03 update. I'll post how my situation turns out.

Just an FYI to anyone else interested...From what I was told if you have firmware C01 you cannot update it yourself to C02 (or 03). According to Customer Service that update has to be done at the factory. If your unit was shipped with C02 then you can update to C03 at home. I had the CS rep send me C03 anyways although I have to go home and actually see what version is on my unit. I'm typing this with my fingers crossed.

So can u find out from tech whether c02 involves hardware mod? Can u send me c03 if u have it? Thanks
post #2643 of 5238
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

1080p has come down enough in price for it to be silly to buy a 720p projector unless you are really strapped for cash. For a little extra more, you get a lot more bang for your buck. Let's do some math:

1280x720=921600

1920x1080=2073600

So, in a 100 inch screen, for example, you get more than twice the amount of pixels. That's a much sharper picture and, although it may not make much difference if you sit far away, it will allow you to sit much closer and only increase the immersion without being able to discern any pixelation.

That said, if you are only gaming (console?) in 3D, I think there are less expensive options out there (other Optoma 720p projectors), but the HD33 has frame interpolation and it works really well with games imho. I have played Gears 3 on Xbox and Arkham Asylum on the PS3 and they both look fantastic. The frame interpolation helps smooth out the high motion scenes which tend to give headaches. Thus, you can play longer before feeling the need to take a break. That's what I've found, at least. Hope that helps.

I've collected a lot of information on this, and tested loads of stuff myself, but here is my conclusion:

Most games on the PS3 are 720p to start with, setting a game to 3D (Arkham City, Stardust HD etc.) always changes it to 720p. The PS3 can not handle 1080p 3D output for games (it either has to do with the processing power or the HDMI interface, which is apparently not HDMI 1.4..how it can produce 1080p 3D blu-Ray is a complete mystery to me)

PC can do 1080p 3D, but the Optoma (and the HDMI 1.4 format at this point) only supports 24hz which is really not sufficient to run games. So again I had to scale down my PC games to 720P as well in order to run them in 3D. It still looks awesome though.
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So do 720P 3d games still look better on the hd33 than the GT750 (720p projector)?
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Originally Posted by Amber Ale View Post

So do 720P 3d games still look better on the hd33 than the GT750 (720p projector)?

Unlikely the GT750 looks as good as the HD33 in a dark room even for gaming in 720p, as the GT750 is too bright which means at that price they wouldn't be able to get enough contrast + brightness to balance out in order to match the contrast of the HD33. In ambient light, they should look similar, but the HD33 is going to look a bit sharper even in 720p mode usually because of the re-scaling algorithm tends to add a bit of a sharper look for 720p over a projector with a native 1080p pixel grid, plus the HD33 was built with higher-end components.

The HD33 will have a lot more contrast in dark games.
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You die-hard 3D fans might want to look at the Sony HDR-TD10 Full 3D 1080p Camcorder. I just got one and it plays very well on the HD3300. It has a nice smooth image with little judder, good wide angle and telephoto. Doesn't take 3D stills, does take 2D stills, though. Fits into your hand, some say like a brick, but I found it's smaller than that. The 3D screen is one of the best I've seen. Also has 64gb of memory on board for around 5 hours of shooting. Records in both 60p and 24p. You have to dump the video to a hard drive to save it, but it needs to be in the camera to watch, as the camera has an hdmi port. Also has 5.1 surround sound, which sounds professional to me, not tinny. And the low light images are very respectable. There is a another thread about this camera that explains how to create DVDs and Blurays from the video but is complicated and takes lots of PC horsepower. All in all, though, you will be amazed at what you see on the screen.

http://youtu.be/5AmijovHu8o
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Received my replacement HD33 and it has firmware CO3. I have to say that from the progression from CO1, CO2, to CO3 I noticed that the frame interpolation has been better each time with less artifacts. Also, when playing XBOX 360 games like GTA IV the latest FI locks on much quicker and stays locked on, where with the others it would cut in and out.
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3d settings are doing my head in!!! Doesn't anyone find the default gamma graphic produces awful colours, its default to -6, I keep messing around with everything but can't find the balance between good colours and bright image

Anyone got settings they love? I have a high power screen which I know will make a difference but any settings to try would be appreciated

The default looks good for movies but it sports where I think it shows up the poor colours
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Quick question guys...when I'm viewing Directv's 3D channels I have a line going thru the center of the picture? I think I read somewhere that it's called clipping or I don't know. Any ideas or suggestions on how I can fix this. It almost looks trapezoidal like?
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Sounds like a SBS problem, what happens when you view Top bottom signal? Tahiti wave video on comcast is a Top/bottom.
post #2651 of 5238
The True Depth DLP-Link rechargeable glasses are back up on Amazon. I'm so conflicted on whether to order them or the Optoma RF ones. It's a pretty big expense so I'm taking my time making the decision. The True Depth have received pretty good reviews. Anyone here have some advice that may help with this difficult decision? Thanks.
post #2652 of 5238
Have had my new HD33 for a couple weeks now and so far am really liking it. I am having the same issue that others are with it not wanting to respond to the remote or pretty much do anything after playing for a while. Usually seems to happen at the end of the night when I start powering down everything that I just cannot get it to respond at all and I end having to pull the power cord to get it to shut down. This only seems to happen after an extended viewing time as I had it on and off a couple times yesterday while getting my HTPC setup and it worked fine, then we watched the new Pirates movie which afterward it locked up.

So I am seeing that other have fixed this issue with a firmware update. Could anyone with this update please email it to me.

rcoe00@gmail.com

As far as performance goes I am very happy with the HD33 so far. I do not think the picture is quite as good as my plasma, but it is very good.

For glasses I picked up some of the ultimate3dheaven dlp link glasses and they worked very good on Pirates last night. They are a little bulkier than my new Panasonic gen3 glasses, but seem to work just as good and they are relatively cheap.
post #2653 of 5238
Hi

How can you tell what firmware version you are on?

George
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Hi

How can you tell what firmware version you are on?

George

its on the top bar of the settings menu
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What's he latest firmware?
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Originally Posted by ekscden View Post

Received my replacement HD33 and it has firmware CO3. I have to say that from the progression from CO1, CO2, to CO3 I noticed that the frame interpolation has been better each time with less artifacts. Also, when playing XBOX 360 games like GTA IV the latest FI locks on much quicker and stays locked on, where with the others it would cut in and out.

is there a way to update the firmware at home?
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I have a slight issue with a kind pulsating focus, it's slight but seems to blur and refocus all the time anyone else notice this? It's faint but it's there
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Originally Posted by paul77 View Post

I have a slight issue with a kind pulsating focus, it's slight but seems to blur and refocus all the time anyone else notice this? It's faint but it's there

are you noticing this on 720p/1080i sources like cable?

i see this all of the time from my comcast HD box, and it's highly annoying. i know the consensus was to blame the source material, but even compression from HD cable shouldn't be causing the slight pulsing i'm seeing. it's like the 3300 has a very poor upscaler.

i never see this on 1080p sources. if my cable box could be set to upscale to 1080p i could troubleshoot whether it's the 3300's scaling, but the highest the cable box goes is 1080i.
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Anyone got the Sony HMZ-T1 personal 3D viewer ? Or planning to get one. Curious how it stacks up against HD33/3300.
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Anyone got the Sony HMZ-T1 personal 3D viewer ? Or planning to get one. Curious how it stacks up against HD33/3300.

looks really cool....but it seems 720p ?

there will be ZERO cross talk with this guaranteed, unlike Sony 3D HDTV's

Display
Aspect Ratio : 16:09
Display Device : OLED Panel x 2
Display Resolution : 1280x720
Field of View : 45 degree
Gradation : RGB 24bit
Virtual Image Size : 750 inches at 65 feet distance (effectively 150" at 12 feet)
post #2661 of 5238
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post


are you noticing this on 720p/1080i sources like cable?

i see this all of the time from my comcast HD box, and it's highly annoying. i know the consensus was to blame the source material, but even compression from HD cable shouldn't be causing the slight pulsing i'm seeing. it's like the 3300 has a very poor upscaler.

i never see this on 1080p sources. if my cable box could be set to upscale to 1080p i could troubleshoot whether it's the 3300's scaling, but the highest the cable box goes is 1080i.

Ah I'm not the only one few! I think!!

It's deffinately cable and I have it set to 1080i will try 720p later on
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Originally Posted by paul77 View Post

Ah I'm not the only one few! I think!!

It's deffinately cable and I have it set to 1080i will try 720p later on

at least one other person sees this too from their cable. i never saw the phenomenon on my epson 1080ub.

you have to look pretty close to notice it, though. you can notice it in score tickers, graphics, etc.
post #2663 of 5238
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Originally Posted by PlumPeach View Post

The True Depth DLP-Link rechargeable glasses are back up on Amazon. I'm so conflicted on whether to order them or the Optoma RF ones. It's a pretty big expense so I'm taking my time making the decision. The True Depth have received pretty good reviews. Anyone here have some advice that may help with this difficult decision? Thanks.

I see where a new version of RF glasses are soon to be available, with the sync controls and presets on the glasses.
"â– 3Dfury Glasses with emitter (60/144hz) : All controls like Duty cycle, Delay, Invert, Presets are on the glasses itself, you can stay on the couch and tune up everything till perfection."
post #2664 of 5238
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

is there a way to update the firmware at home?

I've heard that if you call Optoma and request it they will send it to you and you can upgrade the firmware yourself. Not sure exactly what size the service connector is, but it seems like something you can do yourself.
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BTW i did the fine-tuning with the monster emitter - ended up with the delays pretty much in the middle, and the shutter speed on the fastest possible and it definitely looks a little better than before in 3d with the original Optoma RF glasses.

i definitely want to get some DLP links too, though. the reflections in the Optomas are driving me crazy, and i have a very dark light-controlled room. just the light coming off of the screen hits my face and i can see it in the glasses because of the design. but they are comfortable
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After using a BOC for over a month I finally received my Da-Lite High Contrast High Power 106" screen which is a grey 2.4 gain screen. I took a bunch of pics from a distance of ~11.5'. I'm using guitarman's settings from first post with Standard gamma.

Pictures are taken from following movies: Tron, Baraka, King Kong, LOTR, Casino Royale, How to Train Your Dragon, Iron Man, iRobot, Open Season, Avatar, Dark Knight, Legend of the Guardians



Edit: Album link for easier viewing
post #2667 of 5238
I've just tried to watch Thor 3d off Directv. Told me that attached device didn't support 24hz 3d. I thought I had read earlier thread where some had this working. The other Directv 3d channels work fine. I am possibly missing new firmware?
post #2668 of 5238
Thread Starter 
Nice looking pictures, really shows off the great colors the projector has.
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Originally Posted by vidwiz View Post

I will say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that my hd 33 absolutely trounces the panny 7000 in 3d. My experience and opinion of course, and this is based entirely on the almost 100% absence of ghosting on the Optoma. The Panny was unwatchable for me due to excessive crosstalk. I've owned both.

In your opinion how close was the 2d picture between the two? I am looking at both of these pjs as well as the acer 9500. Thanks for any reply.
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Originally Posted by rd7723 View Post

In your opinion how close was the 2d picture between the two? I am looking at both of these pjs as well as the acer 9500. Thanks for any reply.

My primary interest in a new projector being 3d, as well as the limited use time allotted to me for the 7000, did not allow me much time to study the 2d reproduction hence I am not very qualified to answer that question. I will say I notice significantly more picture noise/dithering/gradations on the 33 when viewing picture sources lacking the quality of bluray ie satellite television. That was one thing I did do a quick A/B on.
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